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Old 8th Aug 2006, 14:30
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Ok, you have surely realised by now that you will get very limited benefit from posting such threads on Pprune. So, hows this for an idea. If you really want to know what the people in both services are like, how about trying to get some work experience in. This may give you a bit of an incite into what its all about, and will look good when you go to OASC.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 14:37
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Ops, Its impossible I'm afraid in NI as every time I have tried you can't get in for security reasons. The army is easy to get in but its not the army I'm interested in and I also think it is completely different in all aspects to the other services. BTW my last post wasn't meant to offend anyone, I was just stating that maybe a new leaf has turned for me and Ratty.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 14:45
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The army is easy to get in but its not the army I'm interested in and I also think it is completely different in all aspects to the other services
Goto ARRSE and post what you have just said. Jag just make up your own mind and stop posting the same questions here as it gets boring.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 14:53
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Ops, Its impossible I'm afraid in NI as every time I have tried you can't get in for security reasons. The army is easy to get in but its not the army I'm interested in and I also think it is completely different in all aspects to the other services.
Rubbish! You are not trying hard enough and making excuses. I hosted several prospective RAF entrants at Aldergrove. Security reasons my arrse.

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Old 8th Aug 2006, 15:26
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This is true as I have contiously looked for work experience through my school but my careers teachers told me there not accepting any students except ones that have contacts inside Aldergrove which is something I don't have.
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Do you have GCSE English? What Branch are you looking at? I am considering NCA and have been told that English GCSE is very important. I hope you dont mind me saying but your english grammar is terrible. You do know that you will have to produce essays and lots of written work at Cranwell or Dartmouth. Try here for advice http://www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise/words/grammar/
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 15:43
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Speak to the AFCO Belfast and they will arrange it.
Write to the RAF Aldergrove Community Liaison Office (Corporate Communications or whatever they are called these days).
Write to the Station Commander RAF Aldergrove.
Write to OC 230 Sqn.

Write/phone ANY AFCO in UK and arrange a visit to ANY RAF Station.
Get on the ferry/plane and make a nuisance of yourself.

Like I said, you are not trying hard enough.

Oh, and sort your English out. It's Cr@p!
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 15:45
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Please don't think me rude for commenting on this post, but it always amuses me when people criticize the grammar of others with rather dodgy grammatical constructs of their own.

I appreciate that you are probably trying to help, but I find it rather ironic none the less.

As regards which branch you should join, I think that it might be slightly arrogant to assume that both, or in fact either, would take you.

My advice would be to apply for both, and then if you find yourself in the enviable position of having to make a choice then you can worry about which one suits.

I hope you find what you are looking for!


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Do you have GCSE English? What Branch are you looking at? I am considering NCA and have been told that English GCSE is very important. I hope you dont mind me saying but your english grammar is terrible. You do know that you will have to produce essays and lots of written work at Cranwell or Dartmouth. Try here for advice http://www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise/words/grammar/
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 15:50
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Please don't think me rude for commenting on this post, but it always amuses me when people criticize the grammar of others with rather dodgy grammatical constructs of their own.

I appreciate that you are probably trying to help, but I find it rather ironic none the less.

As regards which branch you should join, I think that it might be slightly arrogant to assume that both, or in fact either, would take you.

My advice would be to apply for both, and then if you find yourself in the enviable position of having to make a choice then you can worry about which one suits.

I hope you find what you are looking for!
A perfect example of my last post.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 15:58
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A perfect example of my last post.
Meaning what exactly?

I fully concur that an ability to communicate effectively in English, both written and oral, is important for any job. All I was pointing out is that those who live in glass houses really should not throw stones!

I find your attitude strange. JAG has asked a question and I think that criticizing his English is somewhat unhelpful.

From your comments I deduce that you are still at school, so I forgive some of your pugnaciousness, but youth is no excuse for poor manners!
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 16:14
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Have you actually read his posts? He will be required to produce very important written reports and plans for senior Officers. If he is to succeed, then, he should be able to accept constructive criticism. I am not the only one to say that his English is not upto scratch. Try reading his other posts and you will get a flavour for the standard of his English. btw, I dont need your forgiveness. Out of interest are you American? If not, read your posts again. If you still don't get it then there is no hope for you.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 16:31
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Why have you chosen to criticise my english then use this as an obstacle for me getting in the services. I can ensure that I don't take time to prepare my posts for grammer miscalculations but instead use my spelling etc. to show that I am not poorly educated. I received a grade B in English GCSE which I'm sure acknowledges some aptitude for grammar. I also received another 8 GCSE's at grade B or above which is something you musn't have as you're going for NCA.

Oh and why don't you read the thread again as it clearly points out that I am aiming for aircrew because you did ask ''what branch are you looking for.''
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 16:49
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Why have you chosen to criticise my english then use this as an obstacle for me getting in the services. I can ensure that I don't take time to prepare my posts for grammer miscalculations but instead use my spelling etc. to show that I am not poorly educated. I received a grade B in English GCSE which I'm sure acknowledges some aptitude for grammar. I also received another 8 GCSE's at grade B or above which is something you musn't have as you're going for NCA.

Oh and why don't you read the thread again as it clearly points out that I am aiming for aircrew because you did ask ''what branch are you looking for.''
I cannot speak the the rest of my colleagues in the RAF, but I wouldn't want have you in the RAF whilst my a$$hole points down.
If you managed to get in, you would be a living example of Annual Confidential Report comments such as:
Airmen only follow this Officer out of morbid curiosity.
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When this man joined the RAF, a village somewhere lost its idiot.

Young man, you are an idiot.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 16:52
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Originally Posted by JAG3
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Why have you chosen to criticise my english then use this as an obstacle for me getting in the services. I can ensure that I don't take time to prepare my posts for grammer miscalculations but instead use my spelling etc. to show that I am not poorly educated. I received a grade B in English GCSE which I'm sure acknowledges some aptitude for grammar. I also received another 8 GCSE's at grade B or above which is something you musn't have as you're going for NCA.

Oh and why don't you read the thread again as it clearly points out that I am aiming for aircrew because you did ask ''what branch are you looking for.''
So now you are saying NCA are poorly qualified Aircrew? If you are not prepared to accept constructive points then maybe you are not suited to the Armed Forces. You will see that I am not the only person to comment on your grammar. Not taking time to check your posts for mistakes just shows that you pay no attention to detail. This will not stop you getting in but it will have a bearing on your performance during your training. Btw, I have the requisite qualifications for a Commission in the RAF but have chosen to apply for NCA. I am happy with my choice of career something you seem to be unsure of. Insulting people will not get you to the front of the queue when it comes to joining the RAF, RN or what ever service you plan to join. Good luck. You will need it.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 17:32
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Wow, and I got picked up for criticising an over adequate comma.

Give the lad a break, he is from oversea after all and they are supposed to have a good ejucathun system.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 19:11
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Originally Posted by JAG3
I received a grade B in English GCSE which I'm sure acknowledges some aptitude for grammar. I also received another 8 GCSE's at grade B or above which is something you musn't have as you're going for NCA.
So you have 9 GCSE's at B or above. Well done, I have 10 at B or above. Whoopy doo, I must be wonderful.

I am, however, a mere 'enlisted man' because I knew what I wanted to do, and that was join as an AC. I didn't come on the internet to be told what I should want, I already knew. If you honestly believe that everyone who is non-commissioned has failed to meet the education standards for a commission then you are are dumber than I thought (and I thought you were quite dumb). Perhaps a lot of people out there actually know their own minds?
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 19:22
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 19:42
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You need some air(craft) experience so nip down to the Ulster Flying Club at Newtownards and give Aircoupe G-AROO a pat for me, please. I soloed in her in 1965 and she is still there, gleaming in her new paint job.
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I would like firstly to sincerely apologise for my actions as it seems I have offended quite alot of people which I blame all myself because I have truly been stupid and said some foolish things.

The point on NCA I feel has got completely taken the wrong way as I didn't mean to offend anyone but stupidly thought that obviously this guy hasn't got the qualifications so must be going for NCA which when I look back I truly regret.

I also feel that maybe my northern irish upbringing and education has led me to soumd blunt or sometimes rude when I really don't mean to offend, sometimes too honest on what I say.

I don't feel I should change my name because it shows I am running from the situation so hope that maybe those whom I have offended can forgive and if you can't I understand.

I personally thought that some threads that I have created has given people of my age some needed help which is something I was lost for a few months back. I was also looking for people's opinions on certain matters as I know nothing of the real life experiences of the armed forces so was looking for any advice possible.

I now feel I have stated my case and await your responses which I would like to hear as I truly hope to be amended.

Thanks
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 22:01
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Jag your mail box is full. You must clear it down to receive more meesages.
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