Why Nobody Likes RAF Police
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terry toweling,
Very interesting and illuminating. Your stories fill in lots of blanks. All that most of us ever hear of what you say is the rumour in confidence bits and that does not go far. Publically all we see is the DCM, name and rank, the charge, and the punishment. We rarely get any inkling of the nature of the offence.
Justice seen to be done it is not.
True, no names, but if you don't know it is going on then detection and deterence is non-existent.
However remember that throughout this tread there are continual references to the good job that you and your colleagues are doing. As you showed there are many black sheep outside your ranks; clearly there will be a few inside as well.
One magpie you didn't mention was the rock aux who kept ammunition in a sqn garage; just in case.
Very interesting and illuminating. Your stories fill in lots of blanks. All that most of us ever hear of what you say is the rumour in confidence bits and that does not go far. Publically all we see is the DCM, name and rank, the charge, and the punishment. We rarely get any inkling of the nature of the offence.
Justice seen to be done it is not.
True, no names, but if you don't know it is going on then detection and deterence is non-existent.
However remember that throughout this tread there are continual references to the good job that you and your colleagues are doing. As you showed there are many black sheep outside your ranks; clearly there will be a few inside as well.
One magpie you didn't mention was the rock aux who kept ammunition in a sqn garage; just in case.
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Terry
You have my utmost admiration for doing jobs many of us would find thoroughly objctionable. And yes, glass houses does come into thought when you remind us that many of our kith and kin are also vulnerable to the temptations many are not caught for. As a group of professionals, we are used to exposing those who perform below the standard and that includes all branches and trades. However, in the case of this thread, there are a large group of individuals who have suffered at the hands of the less mature individuals from your trade group. Please see the JPA thread to see how we have demonised the scribbly grown ups. Accept that some of your ilk are knobs, like many other trades and branches but acknowledge that the effect of their knobness is disproportionate to their importance.
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You have my utmost admiration for doing jobs many of us would find thoroughly objctionable. And yes, glass houses does come into thought when you remind us that many of our kith and kin are also vulnerable to the temptations many are not caught for. As a group of professionals, we are used to exposing those who perform below the standard and that includes all branches and trades. However, in the case of this thread, there are a large group of individuals who have suffered at the hands of the less mature individuals from your trade group. Please see the JPA thread to see how we have demonised the scribbly grown ups. Accept that some of your ilk are knobs, like many other trades and branches but acknowledge that the effect of their knobness is disproportionate to their importance.
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For the record, I have 2 coppers on my staff and they are diamond geezers
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TT,
Let's get things into focus. What percentage of the workforce are you talking about?
I'll bet that its on a par, or lower than civvie street. Remember you get good and bad in all walks of life. The police force I work for has sacked a small number of officers and civvies in the 19 years I've been working for them, many for minor misdemeanors but I admit a few more serious offences but out of 3000 plus officers and 2500 civvie staff its less than 1 per cent.
I'll also bet that you have taken the pi$$ out of many in your trade and come across many a jobsworth there as well.
Please don't call us and we won't call you either.
Good day, Apeman
ps. Oh I forgot to mention. If you are what you say you are you will know of the Police magazine. Please read Dogberry, now and again, and you will see that the civvie police are more than happy to take the pi$$ out of ourselves
Let's get things into focus. What percentage of the workforce are you talking about?
I'll bet that its on a par, or lower than civvie street. Remember you get good and bad in all walks of life. The police force I work for has sacked a small number of officers and civvies in the 19 years I've been working for them, many for minor misdemeanors but I admit a few more serious offences but out of 3000 plus officers and 2500 civvie staff its less than 1 per cent.
I'll also bet that you have taken the pi$$ out of many in your trade and come across many a jobsworth there as well.
Please don't call us and we won't call you either.
Good day, Apeman
ps. Oh I forgot to mention. If you are what you say you are you will know of the Police magazine. Please read Dogberry, now and again, and you will see that the civvie police are more than happy to take the pi$$ out of ourselves
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TT most of us do actually apreciate what the cops no mater what uniform they wear have to deal with. In my job I deal with them on a regular basis in investigations of assualts. The ones who approach with a little humanity and are civil get helped the ones who are officious and demand were they should ask find their job alot harder. Most people here me included wouldn't want to do your job but.... many think you might find things easier with a polite smile and a little humanity there is a time and a place for bending the rules a little and it may pay dividens in making you seem more approachable and human.
Most of my mates are PSNI and most of them say there is a time and a place for humour and helping people like the Herc full of tired squaddies just back from a long tour who want to get home. You're at the end of your 22 so your experience will probably have told you all this the problem seems to be mainly the ones straight from the factory who need a little guidance from the old hands.
Most of my mates are PSNI and most of them say there is a time and a place for humour and helping people like the Herc full of tired squaddies just back from a long tour who want to get home. You're at the end of your 22 so your experience will probably have told you all this the problem seems to be mainly the ones straight from the factory who need a little guidance from the old hands.
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ooh!!
seemed I've re ignited the thread. As i thought, best form of defence is attack eh ZH whatever you are
As for maple brain on a chain joke AGAIN.....BRILLIANT!!!!! you're a literary genius, more please. If i can't take banter leave?!!! Heavens no i've just found this bad boy and am looking for the sport that is green slime int boy
I did laff at a number of the comments posted and after 22 yrs I THINK I've got the hang of banter. Some of them I know are true and others lost in the mists of time. (Never let the truth get in the way of a good story eh!!) I think we can ALL agree that there are knobbers in all ranks n trades and I agree that we have more than our fair share that are let loose on suspecting and unsuspecting service personnel but i wanted to redress the balance, Good try porky/aes dude!
Clicker i was not having a go at bobbies in general only stating that i have been with your colleagues who have no idea to the standard we are trained to and are somewhat surprised to hear us doing your (home office) courses and being asked to assist in inquuiries involving service personnel in civvy matters. (Recently worked on an attempted murder with a major crime unit. No names no pack drill) I had a civ bobby dog handler on a drug dog training exercise put some gear out for my drugs dog. On his return from the building he hid the gear in he said i doubt your labs'll find the gear i haven't had one beat me yet. 15 mins later completed the search with all samples found. Now i'll put some gear out for you shall i . No it's okay he said i'll use the same hides as i put out for you. I didn't persue it as i wanted to keep a professional relationship going and not embarras him into not finding my gear. He clearly had never done a blind search before and had relied on always putting his own gear out. Same thing happened when i went to work with the IOM drug squad for TT fortnight. Always trying to catch me out. And yes I always read the police review. We also have an equivalent called the provost parade which also has self ridicule articles and cartoon strips. I've had a great time in the RAF and will miss the banter and friends INCLUDING ones I have made and am still in touch with from other trades that have long since moved onto pastures new (units and or civvy St).
Having found this little gem i will be watching and reading with great interest the threads to come (Particularly liked the parody of the American mission statement nice one!!)
TT
seemed I've re ignited the thread. As i thought, best form of defence is attack eh ZH whatever you are
As for maple brain on a chain joke AGAIN.....BRILLIANT!!!!! you're a literary genius, more please. If i can't take banter leave?!!! Heavens no i've just found this bad boy and am looking for the sport that is green slime int boyI did laff at a number of the comments posted and after 22 yrs I THINK I've got the hang of banter. Some of them I know are true and others lost in the mists of time. (Never let the truth get in the way of a good story eh!!) I think we can ALL agree that there are knobbers in all ranks n trades and I agree that we have more than our fair share that are let loose on suspecting and unsuspecting service personnel but i wanted to redress the balance, Good try porky/aes dude!
Clicker i was not having a go at bobbies in general only stating that i have been with your colleagues who have no idea to the standard we are trained to and are somewhat surprised to hear us doing your (home office) courses and being asked to assist in inquuiries involving service personnel in civvy matters. (Recently worked on an attempted murder with a major crime unit. No names no pack drill) I had a civ bobby dog handler on a drug dog training exercise put some gear out for my drugs dog. On his return from the building he hid the gear in he said i doubt your labs'll find the gear i haven't had one beat me yet. 15 mins later completed the search with all samples found. Now i'll put some gear out for you shall i . No it's okay he said i'll use the same hides as i put out for you. I didn't persue it as i wanted to keep a professional relationship going and not embarras him into not finding my gear. He clearly had never done a blind search before and had relied on always putting his own gear out. Same thing happened when i went to work with the IOM drug squad for TT fortnight. Always trying to catch me out. And yes I always read the police review. We also have an equivalent called the provost parade which also has self ridicule articles and cartoon strips. I've had a great time in the RAF and will miss the banter and friends INCLUDING ones I have made and am still in touch with from other trades that have long since moved onto pastures new (units and or civvy St).
Having found this little gem i will be watching and reading with great interest the threads to come (Particularly liked the parody of the American mission statement nice one!!)
TT
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Scene: Lovely airshow at a nice RAF base near some wonderful golfing.
Private owned aircraft on static display properly fenced off by the host.
Thousands roaming around admiring the show and aircraft.
Up walks an Engineer friend from days long gone by in desert climes.
Upon discerning he did not recognize me, I teased him silly until he finally tweaked to who I was. Just shy of 28 years since we had met.
I invite him and his dear Dad and Son into the enclosure for a closer look.
He climbs in to view the cockpit....and up shows the RAF Policeman.
Plod states clearly....."Not On...no one in the aircraft or behind the fence...security you know.
Er, Corp....I know this man...have known him for over thirty years...former RAF he is.
Plod restates the policy....
Er, Corp....the man just there is the owner and he gave his approval.
Plod, nicely but with certainty says....that doesn't matter...cannot take a risk of something happening to the aircraft you know.
Not wishing to offend our hosts....we retired to the beer tent to re-tell old lies.
Private owned aircraft on static display properly fenced off by the host.
Thousands roaming around admiring the show and aircraft.
Up walks an Engineer friend from days long gone by in desert climes.
Upon discerning he did not recognize me, I teased him silly until he finally tweaked to who I was. Just shy of 28 years since we had met.
I invite him and his dear Dad and Son into the enclosure for a closer look.
He climbs in to view the cockpit....and up shows the RAF Policeman.
Plod states clearly....."Not On...no one in the aircraft or behind the fence...security you know.
Er, Corp....I know this man...have known him for over thirty years...former RAF he is.
Plod restates the policy....
Er, Corp....the man just there is the owner and he gave his approval.
Plod, nicely but with certainty says....that doesn't matter...cannot take a risk of something happening to the aircraft you know.
Not wishing to offend our hosts....we retired to the beer tent to re-tell old lies.
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As for maple brain on a chain joke AGAIN.....BRILLIANT!!!!!
You'll notice the slagging is targeted, LAC A/Cpl Secoricor/Stasi types mainly
Now, where are those barrier stories you promised?
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It's a 2 week festival and racing tribute to the flexibilty of cotton and cotton related products, culminating in a final dash around the mountain in terry towelling racing suits. The winner recieving a life subscription to "The Versatility Of Cotton Products" and The Bumper Book Of Swatches, from 'Fruit of the Loom'. It's great you should go some time. You like cotton?
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If i see any more bodily matter splattered inside a snatch
[No disrespect, only joking, banterstat attempt etc etc....]
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The MT poster campaign on TELIC is "Nobody likes a dirty Snatch". Comments?!!
The snatch's i got into despite blowing air into them were dusty, hot and cramped, and nowhere to put your sandwiches, but when it was moving it was nice to pop your head out with your rifle and get the breeze!!
The snatch's i got into despite blowing air into them were dusty, hot and cramped, and nowhere to put your sandwiches, but when it was moving it was nice to pop your head out with your rifle and get the breeze!!
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Originally Posted by terry towelling
The snatch's i got into despite blowing air into them were dusty, hot and cramped, and nowhere to put your sandwiches.
Use a fridge or cool box for your lunch next time.
Agree with your rant by the way, copper bashing seems to be the in thing at the moment, regulaters on Rum ration have recently been getting crap for doing their job.
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Originally Posted by Skunkerama
TT, I feel very sorry for your missus/ex gf's. That really is no way to treat a lady, no matter how dry and dusty her snatch is.
Use a fridge or cool box for your lunch next time.
Agree with your rant by the way, copper bashing seems to be the in thing at the moment, regulaters on Rum ration have recently been getting crap for doing their job.
Use a fridge or cool box for your lunch next time.
Agree with your rant by the way, copper bashing seems to be the in thing at the moment, regulaters on Rum ration have recently been getting crap for doing their job.
Regulators are the less intelligent, less well trained version of the RAF Police. The only benefit is that because we get the version with less brain cells (they won't even issue them dogs because they would forget to feed them), we get away with far more!
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Popeye, I know a few regs that'll disagree with your last remark, having worked on a number of Joint units (God bless defence cuts). One of them being a fish'eads favourite haunt, Gib. You are not as progressive yet. Being the senior service you're still hanging onto the traditions that have served you throughout the ages, and served you well. Damn these liberal minded tree hugging human rights!! But you're being dragged kicking and screaming into the twety first century (joint Police school - we lovingly call South Park!)
We in the RAF don't have traditions as such they're more like habits, being so junior, but are quite a progressive service even if we do prefer to check-in as opposed to dig in.
We in the RAF don't have traditions as such they're more like habits, being so junior, but are quite a progressive service even if we do prefer to check-in as opposed to dig in.
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Terry, I have had a great laugh reading this thread over the last week or so. No malice against the RAFP, just cheered up by the stories. You, however, have killed the fun element and turned ito something far more serious than it had become. Thanks. Haven't you got some cabinet combinations to wander round station changing and leave the rest of us to it?
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Yeah.. The cabinets i deal with day in day out is a regular old caibnet fest. OC cabinets is what i do.
As someone pointed out to me earlier if can't take the banter.....FO!!
Now call your nurse tell her you need your nap now but not before you've been changed or had your bag emptied whichever end of the age scale you fit, tirdeness really does make you grumpy
As someone pointed out to me earlier if can't take the banter.....FO!!
Now call your nurse tell her you need your nap now but not before you've been changed or had your bag emptied whichever end of the age scale you fit, tirdeness really does make you grumpy