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DOMINIE OFF RUNWAY AT CARDIFF

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Old 1st Jun 2006, 23:01
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DOMINIE OFF RUNWAY AT CARDIFF

Anyone know what happened with the Dominie that left the rw at Cardiff tonight. Everyone ok.
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Yeah all on board were ok. According to guy there, the nose wheel just buggered up somehow and ended up with the jet dug into the grass. St.Mawgan were deciding how to deal with it.
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Are they still letting navs fly these in and out of civvy 'dromes?
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What were St. Mawgan planning on doing anyway? Driving from Cornwall to Wales to put foam on the runway?.....

Or did it go a very long way off the runway?
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Could not have gone very far at either end. It is a bit wet one end but there is a good pub in Penmark at the other end
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Im sure those navs made it to the pub alright. It veered off quite abit and got heavily bogged down in the wet mud. Its out now, but talkin to the gingers its seems they think the airframe could have been stressed to cat 5. They have one in the hangar they have been wantin to scrap to keep with the numbers, but they may now choose this one to take its place. We shall see. And yep navs still bein trusted in and out of civvy places. Chav Navs!!!
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Every other 125 in the European JAA world is required to have a 2 pilot crew

What makes the Dominie so different? Are there any other twin turbojet transport type aircraft flying with only one pilot?

The Dominie often used to fly with a 'pilot's friend' in the RHS - but what excuse is there in this day and age for the RAF not complying with the same rules as everyone else?
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Old 3rd Jun 2006, 20:59
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Every other 125 in the European JAA world is required to have a 2 pilot crew.
What makes the Dominie so different?
The lack of fare paying passengers.

Simple really.
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Old 3rd Jun 2006, 21:07
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Rot.

The regulations do not make any distinction regarding the use of the aeroplane. Even an empty 125 must carry a 2 pilot crew.
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Don't the regs also state that the pilots must be licenced as well....how many pilots flying the Dom have licences. I had a wonderful tour flying in the RHS of the Dom learnt a lot as well as having fun.....The guys flying as PA's are well trained and are current at landing the Dom, they get checked just as often as the pilots.......Maybe its that the one winged race have been encroaching on the two winged master races territory and it makes them nervous . Seriously Beags the guys flying there are quite capable unless of course they are the students!!!!
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So how come a twin engined jet (Tornado, for example) can be flown by a single pilot? (I know that it only has one pilot's seat (apart from the trainer which has 2, before you start).)

What makes the 125 any more complex than that? Or are they just banking on the fact that the pilots aren't as sharp so they need 2?
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Old 4th Jun 2006, 01:45
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Once again your inability to differentiate between military aviation and civil aviation lets you down.

Ever heard of an MAR?
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Quote "Even an empty 125 must carry a 2 pilot crew"

Well it's not empty then is it?

More seriously though, surely the RAF can operate an aircraft as it sees fit. We used to be able to ferry the Puma just as a single pilot, as long as you left the gear down. I'm sure the civies would never allow that. (Not sure that we do anymore.)

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Back to the real thread. As I understand it, the aircaft wil be flown back Monday morning. Hardly cat 5.
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How Many Pilots?

OK, so how come Global Hawk and Predator can ever get airborne if you must have a pilot!!
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Just slightly off the runway (which is visible in the background)
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Benefits of a 'trained' RHS occupant ...

... http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226981


With ME pilots rapidly running off to join the 'er-Lines', I think the RAF's answer (of using experienced aviators as a safety 'pilot') is sensible and cost effective.

Just my two-penneth.
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"With ME pilots rapidly running off to join the 'er-Lines', I think the RAF's answer (of using experienced aviators as a safety 'pilot') is sensible and cost effective."

Wot a load of tosh It's a well known fact that all Nav's are failed pilots so what the bl@@dy hell are we doing letting them do something they already failed........so to speak

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Anyone languishing in Wilts falls into 1 of 4 cats;

1. Failed FJ pilot.
2. Ex FJ pilot no longer 'able' to handle the rigours of Geee!
3. Failed FJ Nav
4. Hostess

Touche.
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Old 5th Jun 2006, 18:24
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Originally Posted by threepointonefour
Anyone languishing in Wilts falls into 1 of 4 cats;

3. Failed FJ Nav


Touche.
Well, I was too old to go pilot (24 on joining, long story, such is life). I always wanted to go C-130s since starting nav school, couldn't understand any nav wanting fj. Of course I was deemed to have an 'attitude problem' as a result of my chosen path. The last time I saw one of those who mocked was when he was a co-pilot on VC-10s!

Got to where I wanted though, and wouldn't have changed a thing (apart from altering a multitude of events that led to me joining too late for pilot - and wouldn't have wanted fj in that case either).

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