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KPax 1st Jun 2006 23:01

DOMINIE OFF RUNWAY AT CARDIFF
 
Anyone know what happened with the Dominie that left the rw at Cardiff tonight. Everyone ok.

it_was_me 2nd Jun 2006 01:12

Yeah all on board were ok. According to guy there, the nose wheel just buggered up somehow and ended up with the jet dug into the grass. St.Mawgan were deciding how to deal with it.

stiknruda 2nd Jun 2006 06:05

Are they still letting navs fly these in and out of civvy 'dromes? :E

ShyTorque 2nd Jun 2006 10:35

What were St. Mawgan planning on doing anyway? Driving from Cornwall to Wales to put foam on the runway?.....

Or did it go a very long way off the runway?

Truck2005 2nd Jun 2006 11:50

Could not have gone very far at either end. It is a bit wet one end but there is a good pub in Penmark at the other end;)

it_was_me 3rd Jun 2006 12:43

Im sure those navs made it to the pub alright. It veered off quite abit and got heavily bogged down in the wet mud. Its out now, but talkin to the gingers its seems they think the airframe could have been stressed to cat 5. They have one in the hangar they have been wantin to scrap to keep with the numbers, but they may now choose this one to take its place. We shall see. And yep navs still bein trusted in and out of civvy places. Chav Navs!!!

BEagle 3rd Jun 2006 19:56

Every other 125 in the European JAA world is required to have a 2 pilot crew

What makes the Dominie so different? Are there any other twin turbojet transport type aircraft flying with only one pilot?

The Dominie often used to fly with a 'pilot's friend' in the RHS - but what excuse is there in this day and age for the RAF not complying with the same rules as everyone else?

Just This Once... 3rd Jun 2006 20:59


Originally Posted by BEagle
Every other 125 in the European JAA world is required to have a 2 pilot crew.
What makes the Dominie so different?

The lack of fare paying passengers.

Simple really.

BEagle 3rd Jun 2006 21:07

Rot.

The regulations do not make any distinction regarding the use of the aeroplane. Even an empty 125 must carry a 2 pilot crew.

fergineer 3rd Jun 2006 21:31

Don't the regs also state that the pilots must be licenced as well....how many pilots flying the Dom have licences. I had a wonderful tour flying in the RHS of the Dom learnt a lot as well as having fun.....The guys flying as PA's are well trained and are current at landing the Dom, they get checked just as often as the pilots.......Maybe its that the one winged race have been encroaching on the two winged master races territory and it makes them nervous:) . Seriously Beags the guys flying there are quite capable unless of course they are the students!!!!

Flt Lt Spry 4th Jun 2006 00:19

So how come a twin engined jet (Tornado, for example) can be flown by a single pilot? (I know that it only has one pilot's seat (apart from the trainer which has 2, before you start).)

What makes the 125 any more complex than that? Or are they just banking on the fact that the pilots aren't as sharp so they need 2?

rudekid 4th Jun 2006 01:45

Beagle

Once again your inability to differentiate between military aviation and civil aviation lets you down.

Ever heard of an MAR?

H Peacock 4th Jun 2006 05:25

Quote "Even an empty 125 must carry a 2 pilot crew"

Well it's not empty then is it?

More seriously though, surely the RAF can operate an aircraft as it sees fit. We used to be able to ferry the Puma just as a single pilot, as long as you left the gear down. I'm sure the civies would never allow that. (Not sure that we do anymore.)

:D

pma 32dd 4th Jun 2006 07:44

Back to the real thread. As I understand it, the aircaft wil be flown back Monday morning. Hardly cat 5.

foldingwings 4th Jun 2006 08:23

How Many Pilots?
 
OK, so how come Global Hawk and Predator can ever get airborne if you must have a pilot!!

ComJam 4th Jun 2006 12:25

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...0/d4d41545.jpg

Just slightly off the runway (which is visible in the background) :)

wye-ayeviator 5th Jun 2006 17:17

Benefits of a 'trained' RHS occupant ...
 
... http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226981


With ME pilots rapidly running off to join the 'er-Lines', I think the RAF's answer (of using experienced aviators as a safety 'pilot') is sensible and cost effective.

Just my two-penneth.

Always_broken_in_wilts 5th Jun 2006 17:25

"With ME pilots rapidly running off to join the 'er-Lines', I think the RAF's answer (of using experienced aviators as a safety 'pilot') is sensible and cost effective."

Wot a load of tosh:ugh: It's a well known fact that all Nav's are failed pilots so what the bl@@dy hell are we doing letting them do something they already failed........so to speak:E

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

threepointonefour 5th Jun 2006 17:47

Anyone languishing in Wilts falls into 1 of 4 cats;

1. Failed FJ pilot.
2. Ex FJ pilot no longer 'able' to handle the rigours of Geee!
3. Failed FJ Nav
4. Hostess

Touche.
:p

Confucius 5th Jun 2006 18:24


Originally Posted by threepointonefour
Anyone languishing in Wilts falls into 1 of 4 cats;

3. Failed FJ Nav


Touche.
:p

Well, I was too old to go pilot (24 on joining, long story, such is life). I always wanted to go C-130s since starting nav school, couldn't understand any nav wanting fj. Of course I was deemed to have an 'attitude problem' as a result of my chosen path. The last time I saw one of those who mocked was when he was a co-pilot on VC-10s!

Got to where I wanted though, and wouldn't have changed a thing (apart from altering a multitude of events that led to me joining too late for pilot - and wouldn't have wanted fj in that case either).


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