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When to leave - my list
Having seen the "10 things I love about Basrah" I thought it might be interesting to see if anyone else thinks like I do. I keep a list of the things that annoy me, or ways our terms and conditions have been eroded. When the list gets too long to be worth my rate of pay, I'll leave.
If I kick off with a few items on my list, why don't we all join in?
1. No more cups of tea in the morning.
2. Can't get a Nav watch for love nor money any more.
3. Ditto flying gloves
4. Ditto long johns
5. PAYD
6. Capped actuals
7. Studies and change initiatives that are brought in before the last one's complete
8. "I will write to the honorable member and place a copy of my letter in the library of the House of Commons"
9. FOI
10. More and more hassle and rules for less and less low-level every year
Any takers?
If I kick off with a few items on my list, why don't we all join in?
1. No more cups of tea in the morning.
2. Can't get a Nav watch for love nor money any more.
3. Ditto flying gloves
4. Ditto long johns
5. PAYD
6. Capped actuals
7. Studies and change initiatives that are brought in before the last one's complete
8. "I will write to the honorable member and place a copy of my letter in the library of the House of Commons"
9. FOI
10. More and more hassle and rules for less and less low-level every year
Any takers?
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Having seen the "10 things I love about Basrah" I thought it might be interesting to see if anyone else thinks like I do. I keep a list of the things that annoy me, or ways our terms and conditions have been eroded. When the list gets too long to be worth my rate of pay, I'll leave.
11. Getting told "No" by another bloody civvy.
Edited because Tesco's Chablis is £5 a bottle at the moment...
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All above +
13. C$£P Equipment Procurement - Typhoon, MRA4, ASTOR, BOWMAN, JPA, BRIMSTONE et al .... and we think we can produce 2 super carriers!
14. Managers masquerading as leaders.
15. Watching liars, cheats and theives make it to Wg Cdr and above. (This obviously does not apply to everyone but if the cap fits....)
16. Lack of EO in an over PC community.
Sounds like its time to go......... think I will.
13. C$£P Equipment Procurement - Typhoon, MRA4, ASTOR, BOWMAN, JPA, BRIMSTONE et al .... and we think we can produce 2 super carriers!
14. Managers masquerading as leaders.
15. Watching liars, cheats and theives make it to Wg Cdr and above. (This obviously does not apply to everyone but if the cap fits....)
16. Lack of EO in an over PC community.
Sounds like its time to go......... think I will.
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17. Having an SAC Blunty decide if you can go to war
18. Having a Cpl (SAC) PTI say if you are fit to go to war
19. Having a Cpl Rockape say if you can go to war
20. NOT having any senior officers with the balls to stand up to 17, 18 & 19 above!
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18. Having a Cpl (SAC) PTI say if you are fit to go to war
19. Having a Cpl Rockape say if you can go to war
20. NOT having any senior officers with the balls to stand up to 17, 18 & 19 above!
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22. Because it has become just a job
23. Because JPA has a button to PVR (you are valued that much!)
24. Because the grass in the RAF is dry and brown
PA
23. Because JPA has a button to PVR (you are valued that much!)
24. Because the grass in the RAF is dry and brown
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When you got to the Regt Sec for training only to have some 
take the piss cos you can't do his job as well as he can.
Spend time in my workplace head and we will see whos clever.
Clear ease springs
take the piss cos you can't do his job as well as he can.Spend time in my workplace
head and we will see whos clever.Clear ease springs
Guys,
I've been there and I have great sympathy. BUT, do you think that the RAF is the only organisation with problems? The grass may be brown and dry in the Service, but it could be dust and ashes elsewhere. I've worked for a couple of larger organisation, on both sides of the Atlantic, and I've met and had to deal with a number of dimwits and jobsworths, just as I did in the RAF.
Just check before you jump!
Just for the record, I jumped when the housing was sold off and the medical services collapsed.
I've been there and I have great sympathy. BUT, do you think that the RAF is the only organisation with problems? The grass may be brown and dry in the Service, but it could be dust and ashes elsewhere. I've worked for a couple of larger organisation, on both sides of the Atlantic, and I've met and had to deal with a number of dimwits and jobsworths, just as I did in the RAF.
Just check before you jump!
Just for the record, I jumped when the housing was sold off and the medical services collapsed.
Dimwit levels are severely increased in Civvy Strasse. - mainly because the worst of them can be there for LIFE - not just for a two or three year tour!
I wouldn't recommend some of them for their fitter courses, let alone their Tapes!
It can also be an "If your face fits.." world where you quickly learn patience, so the slower ones in charge can catch up, and selective silence, so the dimwits don't sack you!
Its not all bad though - regular time off and leaving work behind all evenings and weekends.
Not having to go where you don't want to. (And also not going to where you DO want to go!)
Oh - And the remuneration too!
As was just said - Look before you leap.
I wouldn't recommend some of them for their fitter courses, let alone their Tapes!
It can also be an "If your face fits.." world where you quickly learn patience, so the slower ones in charge can catch up, and selective silence, so the dimwits don't sack you!
Its not all bad though - regular time off and leaving work behind all evenings and weekends.
Not having to go where you don't want to. (And also not going to where you DO want to go!)
Oh - And the remuneration too!
As was just said - Look before you leap.
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26. When the lunatics take over the asylum
(oh $hit, they already have!!!!)
Kind regards
TSM
ps maxburner, I tend to agree very slightly with you, but the grass has long been burnt off in the RAF and the grass is now a desert style wilderness. It may not all be better outside, but at least those who have jumped are having a better time, a safer time and much more importantly, a happier time.
(oh $hit, they already have!!!!)
Kind regards
TSM
ps maxburner, I tend to agree very slightly with you, but the grass has long been burnt off in the RAF and the grass is now a desert style wilderness. It may not all be better outside, but at least those who have jumped are having a better time, a safer time and much more importantly, a happier time.
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27. When senior officers forget that people are their most important asset.
28. Seeing how other armed forces treat their people whilst serving and on retirement.
29. The eucalyptus tree syndrome.
30. Spineless OJAR writers.
31. Politicians getting our guys killed for lies.
32. So called 'leaders' with no moral standards.....you know who you are!
I have to say, the grass is most definately greener....it just depends on where you choose to jump. I could go on but I have just found out I have been paid my lump sum and I need to go to the toy shop!
Beers!
28. Seeing how other armed forces treat their people whilst serving and on retirement.
29. The eucalyptus tree syndrome.
30. Spineless OJAR writers.
31. Politicians getting our guys killed for lies.
32. So called 'leaders' with no moral standards.....you know who you are!
I have to say, the grass is most definately greener....it just depends on where you choose to jump. I could go on but I have just found out I have been paid my lump sum and I need to go to the toy shop!
Beers!
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33. When people who are known to be hopeless at their primary flying duties are promoted and end up in charge of people in said same flying duties. Surely that could never ever happen!
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The Eucalyptus Tree Syndrome.
The Tree is full of Koala Bears.
The Bears at the top look down - All they see is smiling faces
The Bears at the bottom look up - All they see is a holes
Guess the way the Sht goes?
Guess where the nice stuff to eat is?
The Tree is full of Koala Bears.
The Bears at the top look down - All they see is smiling faces
The Bears at the bottom look up - All they see is a
holesGuess the way the Sh
t goes?Guess where the nice stuff to eat is?