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Old 31st Aug 2022, 00:23
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Let's hope there is an extended warranty in hand.
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 00:46
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https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/brit...m-for-repairs/ 30 Aug 2022 "...Multiple independent sources have told me that it is believed that the warship’s propellor hit something on the sea bed. “Either the propellor hit the floor or something on it. Definitely dry docking needed, and Amsterdam is being touted as an easier option than Rosyth.”...
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 11:21
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Oh dear.....

Stories now in the press that its a shaft failure due to lack of lube.......

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ase-propeller/

Someone is going to be in need of some lube if that is the case.....
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 12:23
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Originally Posted by GeeRam
Oh dear.....

Stories now in the press that its a shaft failure due to lack of lube.......

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ase-propeller/

Someone is going to be in need of some lube if that is the case.....
Vanishingly unlikely that that is the cause.
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 12:34
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Originally Posted by SpazSinbad
28 Aug 2022 HMS Prince of Wales suffers technical issue after sailing from Portsmouth https://www.navylookout.com/hms-prin...om-portsmouth/ "...wake visible in the photo, taken as she sailed [27 Aug 2022], appears to indicate only the port shaft turning..." https://www.navylookout.com/wp-conte...haft-issue.jpg

More worryingly, it looks like the fibre optics and utilities companies have been busy on the flight deck...
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 15:50
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Now just imagine if there were actual hostilities ongoing and suddenly half of your carrier fleet goes U/S and needs a period of repair and must retire from t he combat zone of operations to some friendly port with the adequate facilities.....like say the Persian Gulf Region.

Where would that be?

Eggs in one basket concept springs to mind.
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 16:29
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Except there are two baskets.
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 17:16
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Originally Posted by downsizer
Just for perspective:

In the two years since commissioning it's spent 87 days at sea.
How did you work that out? To my simple mind, since commissioning she has does operational sea training (roughly four weeks which included the first foxed wing landing and launch), Exercise Joint Warrior late last year (two weeks), some flying training in January (a week), something like six weeks operating in the Norwegian Sea and the Arctic in March/April, and just over a month in the Mediterranean in May/June. How many days does that add up to?

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Old 31st Aug 2022, 18:04
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Originally Posted by WE Branch Fanatic
How did you work that out? To my simple mind, since commissioning she has does operational sea training (roughly four weeks which included the first foxed wing landing and launch), Exercise Joint Warrior late last year (two weeks), some flying training in January (a week), something like six weeks operating in the Norwegian Sea and the Arctic in March/April, and just over a month in the Mediterranean in May/June. How many days does that add up to?
98. If your calcs are correct. I stand by 87, either way, not many.
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 20:07
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Why would anyone be surprised? Isn’t this vessel from the same source as gave us a class of Destroyers which we can only use on cold days?
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 21:49
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Read the following tongue in cheek question on another site:

”Would this have been avoided if the crew was more diverse?”
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 22:13
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Originally Posted by Bing
Except there are two baskets.
And for about the same price we could have had three America Class Amphibious Assault ships.

Although a bit smaller than the QE Class they are longer than Ark Royal and with a 7.9m draught can operate in shallower waters than bot the British ships QE/PW 11m Ark 10m. Which would have made getting in and out of Portsmouth a lot less likely to result in a courts martial for the captain and navigating officer.

Perhaps we could have bought some Ospreys as well.

I think that lot would put a smile on the face of the Royal Marines and given the UK a credible expeditionary capability.



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Old 1st Sep 2022, 07:49
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Originally Posted by KiloB
Why would anyone be surprised? Isn’t this vessel from the same source as gave us a class of Destroyers which we can only use on cold days?
You are Lewis Page and I claim my five pounds...
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Old 1st Sep 2022, 08:45
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Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc
”Would this have been avoided if the crew was more diverse?”
If the top-notch engineer who might otherwise have spotted the root cause didn't apply, because they thought they wouldn't be made welcome, just possibly...

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Old 1st Sep 2022, 10:40
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Originally Posted by SASless
Now just imagine if there were actual hostilities ongoing and suddenly half of your carrier fleet goes U/S and needs a period of repair and must retire from t he combat zone of operations to some friendly port with the adequate facilities.....like say the Persian Gulf Region.

Where would that be?

Eggs in one basket concept springs to mind.
plenty of companies near the gulf to fix it!



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Old 1st Sep 2022, 12:42
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I was on Qm2 when she grounded in a clearly marked channel and damaged the starboard out pod. It happens. Get over it. Irritating but very fixable
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Old 1st Sep 2022, 14:14
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DC.....how many have dry docks that will hold the Carrier?

Where are those dry docks located?
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Old 1st Sep 2022, 14:27
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Originally Posted by SASless
DC.....how many have dry docks that will hold the Carrier?

Where are those dry docks located?
Ahem.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-t...-base-in-oman/

It's almost as if someone had a plan........
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Old 1st Sep 2022, 16:45
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There's only two docks in the UK that will take the carriers: Rosyth and Port Glasgow. The latter is privately owned and barely sees a vessel from one year to the next, in the five years I worked on the Clyde I saw two use the dock, both vessels were cable layers.
Getting into Rosyth on one shaft would be interesting as the river basin would have to be negotiated first in order to line up for the dock. Commercial tug companies name your price!
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Old 1st Sep 2022, 17:07
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Originally Posted by Akrotiri bad boy
There's only two docks in the UK that will take the carriers: Rosyth and Port Glasgow. The latter is privately owned and barely sees a vessel from one year to the next, in the five years I worked on the Clyde I saw two use the dock, both vessels were cable layers.
Getting into Rosyth on one shaft would be interesting as the river basin would have to be negotiated first in order to line up for the dock. Commercial tug companies name your price!
There is another. So there is.......

Used more frequently than Inchgreen/Port Glasgow
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