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I love the idea that someone thinks all the Naval Aviators have spent long years at sea before they start their pilot/observer training and that they therefore bring something other than a few months at Dartmouth to the Sea Power party
By the way: Sir Walter Raleigh was Professor of English Literature at Glasgow University and Chair of English Literature at Oxford University. On the outbreak of the Great War he turned to the war as his primary subject. His finest book on the subject was the first volume of The War in the Air, which was an instant publishing success.
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Rotarywise - perhaps you would like to detail all the great seaborne experience of someone joining the RN in the last 20 years and going straight in as a pilot, FW or rotary.
So, an academic with no flying experience at all, writes about something he has never experienced - especially bearing in mind that airborne warfare in WW1 was a very new and constantly changing discipline - and it is suddenly gospel.
Perhaps it was a publishing success because of his previous tomes on subjects various such as Milton, Wordsworth and Shakespeare - a perfect preparation for writing Naval aviation doctrine
By the way: Sir Walter Raleigh was Professor of English Literature at Glasgow University and Chair of English Literature at Oxford University. On the outbreak of the Great War he turned to the war as his primary subject. His finest book on the subject was the first volume of The War in the Air, which was an instant publishing success.
Perhaps it was a publishing success because of his previous tomes on subjects various such as Milton, Wordsworth and Shakespeare - a perfect preparation for writing Naval aviation doctrine
Most of the ones I ever flew with did everything they could to get a shore appointment to avoid going to sea.
No, they were queuing up to get where I was. In the 3 years I was on the staff at CFS(H) at Shawbury, we had probably 10 QHI courses come through, each with 2 to 4 Navy pilots on, all looking for shore-based appointments to avoid going to sea.
Whoosh....
Sorry Bing - I thought you were jumping on the normal crab-bashing bandwagon
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Or confirmation bias i.e. saying that because nearly all wanted to go to CFS then no one must want to go to sea. Confirmed..only wrong. Observation bias would be subconsciously telling sailors to apply for CFS to allow the statement 'no-one wants to go to sea because they all want to go to CFS' to be proved true. Only it isn't.
Just saying...don't really care.
Why would we want a floating thing that could be a hospital, power station, water desalination facility, feeding station, repair facility, secure meeting point and a C5 node whilst also able to conduct ops?
Give me a station in the middle of nowhere with a single runway, more tail than dog and a bar full of one-trick ponies telling you how great they are...zzzzzzz!
Just saying...don't really care.
Why would we want a floating thing that could be a hospital, power station, water desalination facility, feeding station, repair facility, secure meeting point and a C5 node whilst also able to conduct ops?
Give me a station in the middle of nowhere with a single runway, more tail than dog and a bar full of one-trick ponies telling you how great they are...zzzzzzz!
All looks very impressive - shame Harriet Baldwin couldn't give the real answer as to when the ship would be fully operational and deployable with its F35s on TV this morning.
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UGLY ship somewhere up the river - paddles at ready: VIDEO: HMS Queen Elizabeth arrives in Portsmouth for first time - BBC News
Oh good - if she is still there in a fortnight's time I will get a close look at her as we depart Portsmouth on board the Cap Finistere for our autumnal Spanish sojourn
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If that's scary consider this. The youngest B-52 in service today is already over 55 years old and is planned to be retired in 2040, when it will be 78 years old. USAF is currently planning to keep the C-17 flying and in service till after 2115. That'll make many of them over a century old! Mind boggling, no?
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When the rubba rubba hits the hubba hubba (when did you stop beating your CVF? QE)
UK details F-35B carrier trials 17 Aug 2017 Tim Ripley
UK details F-35B carrier trials 17 Aug 2017 Tim Ripley
""The UK’s Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier is to spend eight weeks off the east coast of the United States carrying out flight trials next year with Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II Joint Strike Fighters embarked for the first time. Royal Air Force (RAF) Squadron Leader Andy Edgell, the UK’s lead test pilot for the new carrier’s First of Class Flight Trials (FOCFT), told Jane’s on 16 August that the flight trials during the fourth quarter of 2018 would build up to “maximum rate tasking” for two embarked aircraft, four pilots and the ship’s company..." UK details F-35B carrier trials | Jane's 360
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Recently there were questions/comments on the TWIN PEAKS (islands) of CVFs - here are some more answers:
The reasons HMS Queen Elizabeth has two islands 14 Aug 2017
The reasons HMS Queen Elizabeth has two islands 14 Aug 2017
...The twin island design has several other benefits. Wind tunnel testing has proved that the air turbulence over the flight deck caused by the wind and the ship’s movement, is reduced by having two islands instead of one large one. Turbulent air is a hindrance to flight operations and aircraft carrier designers always have to contend with this problem...." The reasons HMS Queen Elizabeth has two islands | Save the Royal Navy
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"One large island" was a characteristic of the previous generation of RN carriers. So, in that regard, two islands are an improvement (more useable deck space). With nuclear power, one small (& getting smaller) island is more than sufficient.