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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 09:09
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I got paid, but I seem to have made a donation to charity. Only a quid, but not sure how that one got through! I now can't wait to see how they deal with me leaving (terminal date in 8 days), and getting the combination of LSAP repayment, final salary, pension and lump sum all sorted out.....My paperwork has been in for over two months, so I was assured that there were no problems.

And yes, I still have the Government Procurement Card in my possession, and I will send it back, cut into pieces, once I am sure that they have got their end of the deal right.
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First day as a civvy yesterday and all pay etc correct. No thanks to the shambles that is JPA. My final act in Admin on Thursday was to leave a bottle of Bolly for the Dep Chief Clerk who pulled out all the stops to sort this mess out.

JPA, a disgrace and heads should roll. Oh yes, I had to sort out my computer acct etc before clearing only to find that I can no longer deal direct with the IT staff. No, I have to ring the Single Point of Contact (SPOC), somewhere in England, and talk to a machine. It then transfers me to the bloke who sits 500m away. Very soon you will pick up the phone to ring the Mess/Admin/MT etc and get a bloke in Delhi.

Wore my own clothes to work yesterday and looking forward to Xmas AND New Year off.

Merry Christmas to all shades of Blue and Green. You deserve better, MUCH better.
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Wore my own clothes to work yesterday
Blimey....whose clothes did you used to wear? Is this some sort of Crossdressing party?
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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 10:36
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Afghanistan

Does anyone know what payment the RM had been told they would receive but have not? The Telegraph stories have been pretty unenlightening, as the figures quoted bear no relation either to LSA bands or to the new Operational Allowance. It is also said that the erroneous briefing occured 2 years ago. Any ideas?

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First day as a civvy yesterday and all pay etc correct. No thanks to the shambles that is JPA. My final act in Admin on Thursday was to leave a bottle of Bolly for the Dep Chief Clerk who pulled out all the stops to sort this mess out.

JPA, a disgrace and heads should roll. Oh yes, I had to sort out my computer acct etc before clearing only to find that I can no longer deal direct with the IT staff. No, I have to ring the Single Point of Contact (SPOC), somewhere in England, and talk to a machine. It then transfers me to the bloke who sits 500m away. Very soon you will pick up the phone to ring the Mess/Admin/MT etc and get a bloke in Delhi.

Wore my own clothes to work yesterday and looking forward to Xmas AND New Year off.

Merry Christmas to all shades of Blue and Green. You deserve better, MUCH better.
I've got a new uniform. I wear green instead of dark blue now. It says "ASDA" on the back, and I wear a badge which says "Happy To Help" on the front. They gave me two pairs of trousers - which is one pair more than the RN issued me! I have a locker, that I didn't have to bribe someone to get, to store it in.

I have no responsibility outside my own personal environment and common sense, I get asked to work late, and they pay me for it. I can say "no" as well. I don't sign for anything, ever, including keys for alcohol storage areas. I go to work, do exactly what I am told, and I know when I start, when I finish, and that I will not have to do somersaults to keep someone else happy. I can make suggestions without someone nicking my idea. People say "Thank You" all the time when I do my job - they even have a big board where people write their "Thank You" notices so that everyone can see. I can't do something that I am not trained for, and no-one asks me to. People talk nicely to me, no-one pulls rank on me, my managers get their hands at least as dirty as mine, and we share the same eating, rest and toilet areas. There are no toilets (as there are in HMS NELSON by the UPO) marked "Officers Only". The staff discount book is better than the Forces Discount Directory, they don't change my terms of service every time the Chief of the Defence Staff scratches his left testicle. I have the right kit and tools for the right jobs, and I BLOODY LOVE IT! I go to work happy, I come home knackered and aching, but happy, and I think I am probably more productive now that I was in some of my jobs in the last 10 years of Service, because I hated the people I was working for and with.

Then again, I start Teacher Training in January. I am the oldest person on the course, and judging by the ladies on the same course, I am going to spend the next 12 months wishing that I was at least 15 years younger. I will be a full-time student, with grants and loans, 13 weeks holiday a year, and job where the people who behave like they are 9 years old actually ARE 9 years old! It will also be nice to teach people that 2+2=4, and not have to worry about them being Number 2 in the Attack Party in the next fire incident......
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IT workers under threat as EDS moves jobs offshore

It looks like EDS may have plans for their JPA contract.

The Observer
IT workers under threat as EDS moves jobs offshore
Richard Brooks
Sunday December 3, 2006


Fears are growing for the future of hundreds of British jobs following disclosures that Texas-based Electronic Data Systems, the largest supplier of IT services to the UK government, is set to offshore thousands more jobs next year, documents seen by The Observer reveal.

The move will inflame already strained industrial relations at EDS. The company is facing an employment tribunal in 2007 over its handling of 80 redundancies on Ministry of Defence and Department of Work and Pensions contracts.

The offshoring proposal is part of an EDS global restructuring known as the 'Best-shore Strategy 2007'. Under the plan, staff numbers in global service centres in India, China, Argentina, Hungary and Poland will more than double to over 13,500 next year. The bulk of the offshored work is in IT applications and user support. The company insists the work will go to the most appropriate location and not just the cheapest.

It is not known how many offshored jobs will come from government contracts, which account for over half of EDS's UK business.
So much for helpline support!
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Old 3rd Dec 2006, 10:47
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Top transmission Shippers, thanks and good luck with teaching. Thought about it but don't have the guts.
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Parliamentary Questions

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/...668#g105856.q0

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/...668#g105857.q0

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/...668#g105858.q0

So now you know.....It's all fine
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Miles,
Thanks for the links...

To quote the Honorable Derek,

"...Late payments have, almost without exception, related solely to the specialist pay and allowances components..."

First time in my career that I've been exceptional!!

Still no pay at all (forget spec or allowances) from JPA, my local unit has provided an advance to keep the home fires burning.
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Old 7th Dec 2006, 13:39
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I think I'm as green as your "uniform" with envy. Still 2 yrs left but I aspire only as far as Tescos!
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Old 7th Dec 2006, 14:29
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Originally Posted by PompeySailor
I've got a new uniform. I wear green instead of dark blue now. It says "ASDA" on the back, ......
Where is this mythical place called ASDA ?.....this land of milk and honey, where people are treated with respect. Is there a queue? Can we all join? It sounds like the unreachable dream!!!
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Old 7th Dec 2006, 16:38
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Fingers crossed I've sorted my LSA errors on JPA. Through PSF I requested a copy of my records held at Innsworth under the data protection act.... on page 47 of 58 I found a LSSA total from March 2004 (before commissioning), these days had been lost. Spoke to my HR and it should now be credited on my next payslip.......

Which brings me on to payslip.... I've not had a paper payslip for over 3 months now!! I've submitted a service request and, you've guessed it, was told to speak to my HR?!?

Finally, I'm hoping to get paid my LOA from a det in June at the end of this month. I'll be clearing from the unit in January, so if it's not paid I shall request that it's unit paid before I clear. They can have 10 days notice, as I would have to pay back any money I owed before I'd be allowed to clear.

PS: I'm not holding my breath........................
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Old 7th Dec 2006, 21:14
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Originally Posted by Mr Blake
Where is this mythical place called ASDA ?.....this land of milk and honey, where people are treated with respect. Is there a queue? Can we all join? It sounds like the unreachable dream!!!
It's bloody great! The money is not much, but then again, what am I doing? £5.80 an hour to refill shelves is about right, I reckon. I got turned down by B&Q (only 40 and with an Hons Degree, they thought I might be too "threatening" to the managers), Morrisons (same reason), Homebase (same again), and I got the "overqualified" response from other places. I was honest with ASDA, phoned them and asked for an interview based on how I wanted their cash and a Walmart discount card, and they took me on!

I love it, they give me loads of hours because I can be trusted to get on with a job, show some initiative, and take charge and motivate the seasonal staff. It works for all concerned. And the store manager can normally be found on the shop floor getting his hands dirty doing the same job that I do - as can all the section managers. No danger of "separation by desk" with this lot! My wife is now concerned that I will want to stay forever.....

And I was surprised at the amount of "ex" people that work there, and how easy it is to spot them by their work ethics....we may slag life in a uniform, but it does give you some pretty good characteristics and morals which the civilian employer absolutely loves!
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 09:57
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I can confirm all PS has said. Mrs Blake worked there for a couple of happy years before the inevitable move due to Service reasons. She was indeed a happy bunny, and it was with great regret that she terminated her contract. Sadly no ASDA within commuter range of our current location.

Perhaps our glorious leaders would benefit from a "management exchange programme", to learn how to treat your workforce properly, especially as the military is now fashioning itself along standard business lines. Not sure about the gaudy green uniform though, but like the idea of the nametags with the monicker "pleased to help".

I feel a GEMS coming on.
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 10:35
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Originally Posted by Mr Blake
I can confirm all PS has said. Mrs Blake worked there for a couple of happy years before the inevitable move due to Service reasons. She was indeed a happy bunny, and it was with great regret that she terminated her contract. Sadly no ASDA within commuter range of our current location.

Perhaps our glorious leaders would benefit from a "management exchange programme", to learn how to treat your workforce properly, especially as the military is now fashioning itself along standard business lines. Not sure about the gaudy green uniform though, but like the idea of the nametags with the monicker "pleased to help".

I feel a GEMS coming on.
I suggested once that the powers-that-be in Portsmouth dockyard might like to get their shiny arses over to Disney to see how to manage parking when you have lots of people driving to work each day, rather than just issuing passes to their mates and then letting the NCP employees (sorry, MGS) damage cars by moving them, then charging people to get them back, but not on a Friday, or when the ship comes in, or until Ted has finished his tea. And giving civvie companies 20 each, but requiring people joining a ship to turn up with draft orders, both parents, the ship's CO and a signed affadavit from a High Court judge so that they could drop their kit off.

All I got was funny looks and my parking permit taken away.

Oh yes - I can park in ASDA car park all day for no charge now I work there, even on days that I am not working. Could I do that in Portsmouth Dockyard? Don't be silly......
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Old 8th Dec 2006, 18:14
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I received a few hundred extra quid on the 1st Dec from HMG, used the same ref as my normal wage on the internet banking. However, I have no idea why I was paid it and there is no record of it on JPA. Was looking for a run 2 or something but nothing at all, no extra pay chit also.

Anyone else had the same thing happen, or anyone missing a few hundred quid.
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On local (BBC Soth West) news at 1830 there was a story in which the wife of a member of 3 Commando Brigade was complaining that the troops in Afgahnistan were unable to use JPA, hadn't been paid correctly and were not being fed properly.........
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Hoots, were you out somewhere sandy this year and expecting to receive the new operational allowance? If you were that might be your mysterious Christmas bonus.
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PAY

My Online JPA Pay Statement for December states the 31st Dec as payment date.... A Sunday?

Is this going to be another co*k up...?

Sunday is not the last working day of the month !!
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 10:10
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For what it's worth every RAF pay statement I've had in the last 20 years has indicated the pay would hit on the last day of the month and yet it's always been there on the last working day. Simply another case of accurate administration!

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