RAF JPA Rollout
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From: Wiltshire
JPA and the music played on hold
After eventually managing to get online today and then finding that the expenses part was down, you can imagine I was a bit hacked off.
Nevermind keep trying.
Spoke to the helpdesk (that must be against the Trades description act) who couldn't help.
Nevermind keep trying!
Tried again and this time all of the reps were busy and I was put on hold. The music played was:
The theme from the big country and the theme from the Sting.
Is that some kind of message as one is a cowboy song (fitting for JPA) and one is from a film about conmen!
Nevermind keep trying.
Managed to get a claim for a 3 day trip submitted after about 30 mins of typing.
Anybody else having the same problems?????????????????
Nevermind keep trying.
Spoke to the helpdesk (that must be against the Trades description act) who couldn't help.
Nevermind keep trying!
Tried again and this time all of the reps were busy and I was put on hold. The music played was:
The theme from the big country and the theme from the Sting.
Is that some kind of message as one is a cowboy song (fitting for JPA) and one is from a film about conmen!
Nevermind keep trying.
Managed to get a claim for a 3 day trip submitted after about 30 mins of typing.
Anybody else having the same problems?????????????????
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From: England
JPA Home To Duty
Does anyone know why Home To Duty (formerly RILOR) is now paid at a lower rate than before.
The only thing I can think of is that they now TAX it?
Anyone know facts ?
Vote JPA..... The answer to nothing !
The only thing I can think of is that they now TAX it?
Anyone know facts ?
Vote JPA..... The answer to nothing !
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From: Down Under
Ref RPOD, I noticed that the rates had dropped - checked the AP/JSP and it has gone down by 20p per day for my 16 mile trip. I know its not much but its still bloody sneaky - must be another stealth tax I reckon.
HPT
HPT
Last edited by Hydraulic Palm Tree; 28th April 2006 at 18:36.
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From: England
JPA Home To Duty
Ok, I have partially solved the mystery.
They have put me on a rate lower than I should be on when they have changed it over. Or was it deliberate as I won a battle recently with the ones with polished posterior's who do nothing but mess pay / allowances up and are never held to account for it.
A technician making mistakes that often would not be a career man. Why have these people got away with this level of service for so long?
Oh yeah the got away with it because.......
JPA, the best answer to an idiot shiney,.......is worse.
However, the comparative rates for JPA don't compare with the rates of old, to the tune of 14p per day for myself.
Sounds a little, but thats £51.13 in a JPA (365.25 Days) Year.
Just when my pay and RILOR had gone all kind of routine and stable.....
JPA happened.
They have put me on a rate lower than I should be on when they have changed it over. Or was it deliberate as I won a battle recently with the ones with polished posterior's who do nothing but mess pay / allowances up and are never held to account for it.
A technician making mistakes that often would not be a career man. Why have these people got away with this level of service for so long?
Oh yeah the got away with it because.......
JPA, the best answer to an idiot shiney,.......is worse.
However, the comparative rates for JPA don't compare with the rates of old, to the tune of 14p per day for myself.
Sounds a little, but thats £51.13 in a JPA (365.25 Days) Year.
Just when my pay and RILOR had gone all kind of routine and stable.....
JPA happened.
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From: uk
We are not alone perhaps HSBC have gone to JPA too.
HSBC Story
HSBC Story
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From: UK
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From: notts
Well there are some lucky people who managed to get full disturbance and then under JPA, they now HTD as well!!! Hence why the majority of us are sucking the hind proverbial.
A system designed by blunties, for blunties. How the avergae guy is supposed to find this system better is beyond me.
A system designed by blunties, for blunties. How the avergae guy is supposed to find this system better is beyond me.
Joined: Dec 2003
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From: wherever
Actually, I know where some of the flying pay has gone...
As PA I haven't received Fg Pay for some years now, that is until yesterday. Splendid wage packet, gross over £6k.
Anybody like to borrow some money?
FOK
As PA I haven't received Fg Pay for some years now, that is until yesterday. Splendid wage packet, gross over £6k.
Anybody like to borrow some money?
FOK
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From: NOTTINGHAM
Originally Posted by formertonkaplum
However, the comparative rates for JPA don't compare with the rates of old, to the tune of 14p per day for myself.
Sounds a little, but thats £51.13 in a JPA (365.25 Days) Year.
Sounds a little, but thats £51.13 in a JPA (365.25 Days) Year.
JSP 752 sets out the new rates in its Chapter 6. Basically, if you choose to live in your own house the new rates shaft you. Those who live in quarters (public) contribute a daily rate of £0.31 (1 mile) whereas those who live in private contribute £2.79 daily (9 miles).
Anorak off.
This, for me, equates to a reduction of £240 per annum but I know others who are at least 4 times that poorer! All this when petrol prices are about to pass £1 per litre.
So what's their game? Have they decided to squeeze us all back into quarters at the same time as they have put up the rent? Clever, certainly a money spinner! No, surely not! Having sold off hundreds of quarters over the past 10 years would there be enough anyway? Of course there would be! All those pi$$ed off with the increased rent in the last pay deal will buy houses and move out until they realise that HTD is no compensation any more and then try to move back into quarters. Thereby totally destabilising the lives of the military forever!
Is this a joined up policy? I think not, but it probably serves the bean counters well.
Prats!
FW
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From: UK
Is this a joined up policy? I think not, but it probably serves the bean counters well.
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From: UK
Originally Posted by BEagle
Or whichever Chief Bluntie brought this nonsense into being....
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From: Lancashire
After 6 months trying to get my "RPOD" and FP sorted ("Don't worry, you'll get it in next months pay")...
JPA happened,
So now I THINK I've got the correct RPOD, and I KNOW I haven't got the correct FP, but now there aren't any blunties left to shout at
cos we sacked all but the REALLY useless ones. (You know, all the ones who didn't take redundancy because they couldn't find a job anywhere else
)
Trying to get ANYTHING out of the unhelpful desk is like trying to get blood out of a stone so I sit and wait for next month to deliver even more mayhem into my nice predictable, stable Monday to Friday 9-5 existance.
(Doesn't everybody work 9-5 Monday to Friday now that JPA doesn't recognise shift workers????????? )
JPA happened,
So now I THINK I've got the correct RPOD, and I KNOW I haven't got the correct FP, but now there aren't any blunties left to shout at
cos we sacked all but the REALLY useless ones. (You know, all the ones who didn't take redundancy because they couldn't find a job anywhere else )Trying to get ANYTHING out of the unhelpful desk is like trying to get blood out of a stone so I sit and wait for next month to deliver even more mayhem into my nice predictable, stable Monday to Friday 9-5 existance.
(Doesn't everybody work 9-5 Monday to Friday now that JPA doesn't recognise shift workers?????????
)
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From: uk
I know that you all know this, but don't forget to Squirrel the overpayments away into a high interest account (First direct Online pays 5%aer I believe), because HMG will be seeking recovery action pretty pronto. (ie next month!)
It looks good to have all that money in your account, I know, its happened to me, but you know they will take it all back!!
It looks good to have all that money in your account, I know, its happened to me, but you know they will take it all back!!
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From: UK
JessTheDog: Does the rule still apply about repayments of overissues (etc) being limited to four days pay per month?
I would imagine the chaos - good and bad - will continue for a couple of months. Once 'unexpected' problems like leave and pay have been dealt with, we can move towards a pre-April level of service towards the end of the year...hopefully this year.
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From: Several miles SSW of Watford Gap
Originally Posted by JessTheDog
Does the rule still apply about repayments of overissues (etc) being limited to four days pay per month?
I believe so. That is set in QRs, it is not a system thing. However, it is 4 days gross pay!