JSF to Lossie, MR4A to Kinloss
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Ranger,
What's the point of 24 hour opening if you have to drive halfway across the country to get there?
"Everyone has their opinions,was just stating my own unbiased view.Really can't see what all the bad vibes are about.Inverness BTW has some top totty,a fair few pubs open till 3am(during the week as well),a cracking nightclub and try telling the thousands of southerners who have already relocated that there is no point to Inverness."
Once again, being on the lash until 3am is all well and good until you have to get home. Similarly, with regard to the laydees, you'd have to rely on exceptionally good drills and made sure you went back to her place if you pulled since, let's face it, what kind of crazy bird would get in the car with a drunken stranger to be driven, once again, halfway across Scotland?
"A cracking nightclub?"
Somehow I don't think that any singlie that posts here won't have some sort of issue with your use of the singular indefinite article in that statement.
"Maybe your a smog and grime man?"
Au contraire, my dear fellow. I'm a country boy, born and raised, albeit a country boy that appreciates having the conveniences of modern life close to hand. Just because I don't appreciate living like I'm trapped in an episode of the League of Gentlemen or Monarch of the Glen, it doesn't mean I'm city slicker.
P.S. Don't get offended. It's all banter, mate.
What's the point of 24 hour opening if you have to drive halfway across the country to get there?
"Everyone has their opinions,was just stating my own unbiased view.Really can't see what all the bad vibes are about.Inverness BTW has some top totty,a fair few pubs open till 3am(during the week as well),a cracking nightclub and try telling the thousands of southerners who have already relocated that there is no point to Inverness."
Once again, being on the lash until 3am is all well and good until you have to get home. Similarly, with regard to the laydees, you'd have to rely on exceptionally good drills and made sure you went back to her place if you pulled since, let's face it, what kind of crazy bird would get in the car with a drunken stranger to be driven, once again, halfway across Scotland?
"A cracking nightclub?"
Somehow I don't think that any singlie that posts here won't have some sort of issue with your use of the singular indefinite article in that statement.
"Maybe your a smog and grime man?"
Au contraire, my dear fellow. I'm a country boy, born and raised, albeit a country boy that appreciates having the conveniences of modern life close to hand. Just because I don't appreciate living like I'm trapped in an episode of the League of Gentlemen or Monarch of the Glen, it doesn't mean I'm city slicker.
P.S. Don't get offended. It's all banter, mate.
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Since you seem to be having a problem with supermarket availability in the Elgin area: ASDA 24/7, Tesco 24/7 both about 5 miles from base and about a mile from the biggest married patch. Floating boats is only required if the River Lossie floods.
On smog and grime; we have it up here as well. Why the other day the visibility was down to 30km.
Since you seem to be having a problem with supermarket availability in the Elgin area: ASDA 24/7, Tesco 24/7 both about 5 miles from base and about a mile from the biggest married patch. Floating boats is only required if the River Lossie floods.
On smog and grime; we have it up here as well. Why the other day the visibility was down to 30km.
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Having read a lot of low-brow jock-bashing from idiots who either haven't lived in Scotland or are too soft to enjoy the lifestyle I ask myself the question whats so good about england?
Its obviously got to be the gridlock on any chosen motorway which trebles the journey time to supposed civilisation. Is it the the beautifully dull scenery (ie flat farmland or characterless rows of industrial housing)? Is it the raft of english people who have no identity so seek solace in putting down other nationalities (thats why the english are so universally disliked) and lack any modicum of politeness. Someone mentioned proximity to London as being a good thing. Don't make me laugh.
So. really. Whats so good about england and the xenophobic, arrogant populace that inhabit it?
Its obviously got to be the gridlock on any chosen motorway which trebles the journey time to supposed civilisation. Is it the the beautifully dull scenery (ie flat farmland or characterless rows of industrial housing)? Is it the raft of english people who have no identity so seek solace in putting down other nationalities (thats why the english are so universally disliked) and lack any modicum of politeness. Someone mentioned proximity to London as being a good thing. Don't make me laugh.
So. really. Whats so good about england and the xenophobic, arrogant populace that inhabit it?
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I thought the jockistanis wanted 'Independence' from the mainland - so why are we intent on basing all of our military air north of the border?
Clearly those who continue to knock Lossie/Kinloss are the unfortunate few who have never visited this green and pleasant land. Obviously there is an element consisting of dedicated townies, fenland in-breeds, and others who can't live without their daily dose in English industrial pollution who would not settle in deepest Jockistan, but it's quite incredible to see the number that do - in fact the population of true-blues Jocks such as myself is so diluted by white settlers bearing a subdued roundel tattooed on each buttock, that it's hardly like Jockistan at all.
If only the powers that be would develop a paraffin budgie that didn't make so much bloody noise - the only form of pollution we have to suffer apart from that affecting the local dialect.
Bye-bye Tonka, hello JSF...............you'll have to speak up, I can't hear you for the aircraft noise!
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Wrong! Only a minority of ill-informed morons are of that opinion - note the SNP's standing in the electoral rankings, I think not.
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Surely the comment has been made already - and it's nothing to do with nationalistic humour.
Finance - how much can HMG make by selling off surplus bases and facilities in south and east of England compared with those in the far North?
It's really not hard to figure
Finance - how much can HMG make by selling off surplus bases and facilities in south and east of England compared with those in the far North?
It's really not hard to figure
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Err, that must be the reason why Moray (where Highland Potshot lives) elected a SNP MP.......
The ScotNats have a very small minority interest in Westminster and far from a controlling interest in Holyrood - does that look like independence to you?
You know it makes sense to base the JSF /Nimrod here in Scotland for the very reason we have maintained the bases up here since the late 1930s.
As for the garbage about JSF being based at Lossie and CVF sailing from Portsmouth - the RN based carrier-borne aircraft at Lossie for decades, did they ever have problems flying-on pre-deployment........No! So why that crap now?
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Yeovilton used to operate Phantoms.
Besides, we don't want JSF at Yeovilton. It's taken us nearly 25 years to get rid of that whining noise.
It's taken us nearly 25 years to get rid of that whining noise.
Sorry WEBF, couldn't resist.......
(I'll get my coat......)
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Didn't wish to appear to be jock bashing, temper got the better of me. It was the crass decision to base the aircraft soooo far from the carriers that appalls me.
I know there must be fairness and balance but come on it would be a better idea to place JCA somewhere near the centre of the UK rather than just south of the Orkneys.
Surely the high costs of the fuel expenditure by hoover MkIII deploying to mother could be used to justify stretching the runways of airfields closer to Pompey?
Oh well I am still reeling from the decision to move Lynx from Portland to Yeovilton!
I know there must be fairness and balance but come on it would be a better idea to place JCA somewhere near the centre of the UK rather than just south of the Orkneys.
Surely the high costs of the fuel expenditure by hoover MkIII deploying to mother could be used to justify stretching the runways of airfields closer to Pompey?
Oh well I am still reeling from the decision to move Lynx from Portland to Yeovilton!
Why not opt for the third way and have them at Lossiemouth AND Yeovilton........ take the RN sqns and base them at an RN Air Station (ie Yeovilton), and bring them under the command of CINCFLEET?
Expect I'll get flamed to death for this.
Expect I'll get flamed to death for this.
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Cattivo - what I have never been able to understand why so many Scots leave Scotland for jobs in England and elsewhere.
Great as it is to have a green land and hardly any industry - it
also doesn't allow for many jobs. Regards bases - close one and
improve the facilities of the others.
Great as it is to have a green land and hardly any industry - it
also doesn't allow for many jobs. Regards bases - close one and
improve the facilities of the others.
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Why not opt for the third way and have them at Lossiemouth AND Yeovilton........ take the RN sqns and base them at an RN Air Station (ie Yeovilton), and bring them under the command of CINCFLEET?
I think one of the reason's is that they dont know what JCA variant they're going to buy yet. It has been intimated elswhere Yeovil's runway is shorter than in it's fixed wing days, So if they go for the CV Variant then it would be a problem. Also Lossie has a very good Bombing range nearby (Tain) The RN operated a plethora of strike a/c from lossie during the '50's, '60's, & '70's and all the carriers where based in Pompey/Guzz. From '72 - '78 The old Arks airwing was stationed...
Gannets - Lossie - As there was commonality with the Shackleton
Buccs - Honnington Why I dont know as all the infrastructure was in Lossie (Including a perfectly good Simulator)
Phantoms - Leuchars with the RAF's Phighters
...That puts the "miles from the carriers" argument to bed I think
As for being under the command of CINCFleet, aren't they just that when at sea?
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In the COLD war we rightly placed FAA and RAF bases on the coast nearest to the USSR. It doesn't mean that this is the best idea today or in the forseeable future.
If you want to tackle todays threats place QRA bases on the south coasts to stop Airliners full of terrorists flying into London. Oh we do that already.
As I recall Gannets, Phantoms, Buccaneers and Wessex were based at Culdrose, Yeovilton and Porland so you are right they were near the carriers (based at Devonport if I am not mistaken).
The only reason Lossie got JCA and Kinloss got Nimod was politics, it stinks even wose than Baldricks codpiece.
Well that Nu Labour fo you.
If you want to tackle todays threats place QRA bases on the south coasts to stop Airliners full of terrorists flying into London. Oh we do that already.
As I recall Gannets, Phantoms, Buccaneers and Wessex were based at Culdrose, Yeovilton and Porland so you are right they were near the carriers (based at Devonport if I am not mistaken).
The only reason Lossie got JCA and Kinloss got Nimod was politics, it stinks even wose than Baldricks codpiece.
Well that Nu Labour fo you.
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"Cattivo - what I have never been able to understand why so many Scots leave Scotland for jobs in England and elsewhere.
Great as it is to have a green land and hardly any industry - it
also doesn't allow for many jobs"
Funny how there has been an influx of over 20'000 people to the Inverness area in the last few years,a vast majority of whom are from down souff.
"Also Lossie has a very good Bombing range nearby (Tain)"
Hurrah,someone who knows what they are talking about,cheers.
Great as it is to have a green land and hardly any industry - it
also doesn't allow for many jobs"
Funny how there has been an influx of over 20'000 people to the Inverness area in the last few years,a vast majority of whom are from down souff.
"Also Lossie has a very good Bombing range nearby (Tain)"
Hurrah,someone who knows what they are talking about,cheers.
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Yeah, plenty of Scots do emigrate for work but you don't hear them whinging about it.
Political decision for MRA4 at Kinloss?! With the investment in Kinloss and capabilities of the new frame, why base it anywhere else? ....unless 'being nearer your family' is a valid strategic reason.
Political decision for MRA4 at Kinloss?! With the investment in Kinloss and capabilities of the new frame, why base it anywhere else? ....unless 'being nearer your family' is a valid strategic reason.
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Cattivo - exactly right! You don't hear those that have emigrated whining about it. Twenty thousand coming into the Inverness area is a drop in the ocean compared to the numbers that have left. Not anti Scottish as such - I do however feel that Scotland needs it's politicians to work better for them .