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I have got some pretty radical ideas for the goverment as a whole to save a shed load of squiddlys.
1) Sell The house of commons and all associated bulidings to the rich americans, or russian mafia tycoon that soooo love our history and move them all to a cheaper, central location in the country. Just think of the savings with not having to repair and maintain a buliding that is hundreds of years old!
2) Sell Whitehall and move all the blunties and paperclip counters to Grimsby, where I believe the standard of living is reasonable in comparision to Basra where they are happy to make everyone else live.
3) Scrap the red arrows, because they just waste fuel and steal my oxygen. To those that say getting rid of SAR would save more money, I am of the understanding that the SAR boys create more media exposure and get better public relations for actually doing a real job, instead of poncing around in red flying suits (and how much must they cost!).
4) Pip out Cherie B.
you aint seen me right
1) Sell The house of commons and all associated bulidings to the rich americans, or russian mafia tycoon that soooo love our history and move them all to a cheaper, central location in the country. Just think of the savings with not having to repair and maintain a buliding that is hundreds of years old!
2) Sell Whitehall and move all the blunties and paperclip counters to Grimsby, where I believe the standard of living is reasonable in comparision to Basra where they are happy to make everyone else live.
3) Scrap the red arrows, because they just waste fuel and steal my oxygen. To those that say getting rid of SAR would save more money, I am of the understanding that the SAR boys create more media exposure and get better public relations for actually doing a real job, instead of poncing around in red flying suits (and how much must they cost!).
4) Pip out Cherie B.
you aint seen me right
Quid,
It seems you may be somewhat misinformed about the current role of RAF aircrew, who do indeed fly 7-8 hr sorties in the middle of the night, getting shot at. What can be wrong with a free doughnut we all love them
ALWAYS assume NEVER check
It seems you may be somewhat misinformed about the current role of RAF aircrew, who do indeed fly 7-8 hr sorties in the middle of the night, getting shot at. What can be wrong with a free doughnut we all love them
ALWAYS assume NEVER check
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The reason that aircrew were given rations is simple. It is a FACT that energy levels become much lower at certain parts of the 24 hour cycle. Blood suger levels drop, and there is a dramatic decrease in a humans ability to concentrate. The consequences of this are quite clear
so why do aircrew blood sugar levels need maintaining on the shortest of MCT's.
food prior to flight ? theres a thing!!! nah
butty box the minute they are on the aircraft...
Remove pin from grenade.
Aircrew food to maintain blood sugar levels on overnight sorties? What about Air Traffic Controllers on overnight shifts who have to drag their huge privately purchased mid-rats in to work with them to maintain their blood sugar levels?
And throw!
Aircrew food to maintain blood sugar levels on overnight sorties? What about Air Traffic Controllers on overnight shifts who have to drag their huge privately purchased mid-rats in to work with them to maintain their blood sugar levels?
And throw!
Why not create two completely independent military forces....one for parades, inspections, and public ceremony complete with fancy uniforms, horses, etc....let the Admin wallahs have free reign over this force....
....then create the other one....no inspections, battle dress uniforms only....their only mission is to fight. Let them live in the field...practice their trade....and let them get on with the job.
....then create the other one....no inspections, battle dress uniforms only....their only mission is to fight. Let them live in the field...practice their trade....and let them get on with the job.
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RAF Aircrew getting a free lunch? Mmmm, I love it when I'm in the middle of a planning frenzy and I can just stop the mission and go off to the mess for a Blunt Lunch, read the papers and chat with my mates for an hour before going back to work!
If you call out of date bread, crap tea and sugar a free lunch then I stand corrected, but I'd much rather pay to go to the mess for lunch each day.
When we do get the time for lunch we generally go to the feeder and grab a sandwich which we pay for before getting back to work.
Aircrew rations are for when we don't get a chance to go to the feeder or put a lunch order in. And it's only toast, so please stop whingeing about it.
If you call out of date bread, crap tea and sugar a free lunch then I stand corrected, but I'd much rather pay to go to the mess for lunch each day.
When we do get the time for lunch we generally go to the feeder and grab a sandwich which we pay for before getting back to work.
Aircrew rations are for when we don't get a chance to go to the feeder or put a lunch order in. And it's only toast, so please stop whingeing about it.
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Aircrew rations are for when we don't get a chance to go to the feeder or put a lunch order in. And it's only toast
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....then create the other one....no inspections, battle dress uniforms only....their only mission is to fight. Let them live in the field...practice their trade....and let them get on with the job.
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"I think they call those terrorists". .....wrong 
they are called proffesionals.....unlike the "ponti's and remf's" who screw up their lives with their mindless triv
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
they are called proffesionals.....unlike the "ponti's and remf's" who screw up their lives with their mindless triv all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Onan,
You ever serve in combat against an armed enemy? If so, you would understand the difference between a "show" army and a "combat" army.
Shiny brass and boots doesn't cut it....some "guts" behind a bayonet works miracles. They do not have to be pretty....just well trained and dedicated to the task at hand.
You ever serve in combat against an armed enemy? If so, you would understand the difference between a "show" army and a "combat" army.
Shiny brass and boots doesn't cut it....some "guts" behind a bayonet works miracles. They do not have to be pretty....just well trained and dedicated to the task at hand.
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Not Just the Transport Fleet
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I suggest you give Waddington a ring and ask for an E-3D famil flight. You will be allowed to wear your flying suit, though I suspect you may want to get the Squippers to let it out a bit first!
The first thing we were briefed on was the menu; talk about well fed! never seen anything like it.
I don't think anyone begrudges tea and toast, but guards on the gate in the depths of winter at most units get NOTHING! To be honest, it's a disgrace. Our lords and masters want JOs to exercise leadership, but I always thought looking after one's troops was where that started, yet whenever I've brought it up I get some lame response from the fat lazy caterers that there's no money for those living-in and no money or entitlement for those living-out. It makes me sick, and it's been the same at the last 3 units I've served at.
BA
I suggest you give Waddington a ring and ask for an E-3D famil flight. You will be allowed to wear your flying suit, though I suspect you may want to get the Squippers to let it out a bit first!
The first thing we were briefed on was the menu; talk about well fed! never seen anything like it.
I don't think anyone begrudges tea and toast, but guards on the gate in the depths of winter at most units get NOTHING! To be honest, it's a disgrace. Our lords and masters want JOs to exercise leadership, but I always thought looking after one's troops was where that started, yet whenever I've brought it up I get some lame response from the fat lazy caterers that there's no money for those living-in and no money or entitlement for those living-out. It makes me sick, and it's been the same at the last 3 units I've served at.
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I'm aware of how much these guys get rationed for their flights, but as I understand the Sentry crews are often airborne for hour upon hour and can't just nip in to the mess for a bite to eat.
Last time I was over at the guradroom during a particularly dull Orderly Officer shift the guards were quite well fed and had gallons of tea or coffee to get through. Obviously they don't get anything other than a quick bite to eat when on the gate, but the shifts aren't that long.
Talking about the caterers, in their defence the money per head they are budgeted to feed x no. of people is an absolute pittance and I'm surprised we eat as well as we do in the mess. It's not surprising there's no money left for extras.
Regards, Casper
p.s. I might pass on the E3 flight, I enjoy flying, but not that much!
Last time I was over at the guradroom during a particularly dull Orderly Officer shift the guards were quite well fed and had gallons of tea or coffee to get through. Obviously they don't get anything other than a quick bite to eat when on the gate, but the shifts aren't that long.
Talking about the caterers, in their defence the money per head they are budgeted to feed x no. of people is an absolute pittance and I'm surprised we eat as well as we do in the mess. It's not surprising there's no money left for extras.
Regards, Casper
p.s. I might pass on the E3 flight, I enjoy flying, but not that much!
Roland Pulfrew,
What SORT of standard do you think you are maintaining by wearing a hat? Do you wear one ALL THE TIME when outdoors when you are in civvies?
Bin hats, save squillions...............................................
What SORT of standard do you think you are maintaining by wearing a hat? Do you wear one ALL THE TIME when outdoors when you are in civvies?
Bin hats, save squillions...............................................
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please do excuse me! however like Quid i think you use this forum as another chest poking exercise for the officer cadre. Do you raelly think i can legislate in my comments for everybody???? You randomly start talking about ground grew etc in your post I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT GROUNDCREW! i was responding to a comment about aircrew and i gave a purely medical response. I do hope you have the morale courage to respond and put the balance of things correct!
please do excuse me! however like Quid i think you use this forum as another chest poking exercise for the officer cadre. Do you raelly think i can legislate in my comments for everybody???? You randomly start talking about ground grew etc in your post I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT GROUNDCREW! i was responding to a comment about aircrew and i gave a purely medical response. I do hope you have the morale courage to respond and put the balance of things correct!
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I don't begrudge the aircrew food and drinks, but I do think the shifties and guards on the ground should get something too.
Being quite old I remember picking up night rats because no duty supper was available, and many amateur culinary delights were created. (Oh and we nearly burnt the crewroom down once or twice)
Then the budget holding monsters appeared (94?) and said something to the effect of 'because the Army and Navy don't do duty suppers we've decided to cut yours to bring us into line' Conveniently forgetting the Navy get fed regardless when at sea and pongos get fed about 8,000,000 calories per day in the field. And anyway why couldn't they come into line with us? I'm sure they'd be delighted
However, most camps I have had the honour to guard have had COs that have had the decency to arrange through various swindles/funds for tea and coffee and caterers that don't mind the odd loaf and accoutrements 'evaporating' from the mess
This brings me to the worst/best of my beloved Airforce. The bone-headed application of mean spirited and morale destroying rules and their subversion by wiser and more intelligent local authority. It’s just unfortunate it has to be done this way
Being quite old I remember picking up night rats because no duty supper was available, and many amateur culinary delights were created. (Oh and we nearly burnt the crewroom down once or twice)
Then the budget holding monsters appeared (94?) and said something to the effect of 'because the Army and Navy don't do duty suppers we've decided to cut yours to bring us into line' Conveniently forgetting the Navy get fed regardless when at sea and pongos get fed about 8,000,000 calories per day in the field. And anyway why couldn't they come into line with us? I'm sure they'd be delighted
However, most camps I have had the honour to guard have had COs that have had the decency to arrange through various swindles/funds for tea and coffee and caterers that don't mind the odd loaf and accoutrements 'evaporating' from the mess
This brings me to the worst/best of my beloved Airforce. The bone-headed application of mean spirited and morale destroying rules and their subversion by wiser and more intelligent local authority. It’s just unfortunate it has to be done this way