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Old 20th Mar 2005, 22:01
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RAF Redundancies ?

Has anyone got any good/latest rumours on this subject ?

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Old 21st Mar 2005, 06:45
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Tranche 1 results will be announced by end of this month with an exit date of Sept. Mainly engineers in this one as we don't need to maintain our ac as they're all so new and serviceability rates are so high!!
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Understand that the first round was oversubscribed 2 to 1.

Rats and sinking ships??? Or perhaps the writing is on the wall.
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Old 21st Mar 2005, 13:56
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"Understand that the first round was oversubscribed 2 to 1"


But its okay - Chief of the Air Staff says that "we must make those that remain feel like they are the winners."


I'm staying just for that
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I am sure I will "win" more overseas deployments to sandy places as the number of people left to fill the slots reduces BUT THE COMMITMENT DOESN'T! And the 09.39 entry in the "Where do they get this c***" thread talks about plans for an RAF of 35,000 by the next decade, more redundancies to come??


Still, it is nice to see that the new LSA caters for people who have been deployed for up to 9 years in their careers!
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I don't think there will be any more redundancy, they'll achieve the 35,000 by posting another 15,000 to Iraq and Mr Brown will refuse to pay for them when they get there - they will just be missing!!!
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Believe that those with an exit date 2008 or before won't be in the frame, just 'natural wastage'.
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I believe they will reach 41000 by suppporting everyone the way they are doing at the moment. Bring back Thatcher I need a payrise!!!!
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So with 51000 personnel currently and 474 aircraft (108 persons per aircraft) how can redundancies be achieved with so few people per airplane?
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I'm sure someone in the Treasury can answer that one.
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Old 21st Mar 2005, 21:39
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"474 aircraft"

????????????

Where do you get that figure from?

I think it's a fair whack more than that.....................
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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 07:30
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Tranche 2 is supposed to be announced 23 Mar 05 with applications in Apr. This could be the start of the floodgates, but then again we've been there before. Everyone I speak to is coinsidering their options, but few actually do anything about it. The hierarchy know that even if people want to leave, the security of income and school allowances etc mean people can't afford to.
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"Where do you get that figure from?

I think it's a fair whack more than that....................."

Well that is what is quoted by the RAF website. I did naturally exclude the gliders.
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A thread requesting rumours on a rumour website, how could I resist?

Only half a dozen rumours doing the rounds at Lyneham.

Innsworth have realised that the end of March clashes with the Easter break, and we might get some news before Easter.

The redundancy board may 'borrow' some places from Tranche 2, in the interests of minimising the pain, and to save on more paperwork.

Innsworth have received a large amount of PVR's recently. (I'm not sure if this is good or bad)

The Medical Centre at Lyneham are investigating the above average caseload of people reporting sick for 'stress'.

All the WO's that have applied for it have got it.


Just rumours, of course. One of the above rumours was started for a joke, to see how fast it would travel!

I must stop going to the Old Folks Home for lunch.
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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 18:49
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"Just rumours, of course. One of the above rumours was started for a joke, to see how fast it would travel!"

I guess that will be the one saying there is only half a dozen rumours doing the rounds at Lyneham
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Rumours from Lyneham

SPHL

That was the kind of rumour I was fishing for. Rumour circulating Wyton that Fairy/DF Chiefs undersubscribed, I find that very hard to believe though.

This rumour came from a mate who's sister works with a bloke who does the garden of a chap who's mum cleans offices with a woman who also works on the checkouts at Tesco, she is married to a supplier who's brother is in the Army who lives on quarters next to someone who drinks in the mess with the Wobbly from PSF who knows somebody in PMA who knows all the gen.

So it must be true.



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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 19:54
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Heard 80% of those in the bracket applied! Therefore the 20% who didn't are probably Fairy/DF Cheifs then! I know 2 of these who have just PVR'd anyway to go and work for BAe for what amounts to more money with their pension and without the hastle of dets/OOA Guard Cmdr etc etc. Watch out for the PVRs from all those disappointed with not getting redundancy when the 3 tranches are finished. Talk about flood gates. Still the RN boys who are taking over at two secret airbases in middle England could fill the gaps once they're trained on non maritime types!Or the Army boys could be seconded in from the Apache to fill the gaps! Heaven help us!
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Has the postie been?

Anyone got their nice/nasty letters yet?
Rumour mongers say they have been posted out.

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Old 23rd Mar 2005, 14:46
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"Anyone got their nice/nasty letters yet?"

Interesting one that. I assume that peoples definitions of what is a nice letter will vary somewhat depending on their viewpoint
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Old 23rd Mar 2005, 21:29
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Has the postie been?

"Anyone got their nice/nasty letters yet?"
Three types of letter I suppose.

Nice Got what you applied for - Redundancy

Nasty Got compulsory redundancy - you are unwanted/unloved/useless/surplus to requirements (delete as appropriate)

Absolutely Devastating Didn't get redundancy having applied for it. (apply for next tranche)

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