RAF Redundancies ?
First of all I am not having a go at anyone, ...
garybaldi - the target band for tranche 2 is much broader, effectively ages 43-52. This may result in more applicants second time around.
D-IFF - I did make the point that there were no slots for pilots!! I know there are lots keen to go.
Stan Bydike - Tranche 1 looked for 6 WSO(N) and 5 WSO(AE). The figures you have seen, with a total of 12 getting redundancy, are total WSO numbers, i.e Nav and AEO combined. Therefore there was only one more slot than originally forecast.
However, my point was that there seems to be greater disaffection among the groundcrew trades....
garybaldi - the target band for tranche 2 is much broader, effectively ages 43-52. This may result in more applicants second time around.
D-IFF - I did make the point that there were no slots for pilots!! I know there are lots keen to go.
Stan Bydike - Tranche 1 looked for 6 WSO(N) and 5 WSO(AE). The figures you have seen, with a total of 12 getting redundancy, are total WSO numbers, i.e Nav and AEO combined. Therefore there was only one more slot than originally forecast.
However, my point was that there seems to be greater disaffection among the groundcrew trades....
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A week Late
Picture the scene...a far flung corner of the Empire where "Dubbya" is considered a god!
So there I was last Thursday waiting for the phone to ring, in the expectation that If I had been suceesful in my application for redundancy someone might call and say "Chief, Pls come to my Office".
No such phone call and so....Its tranche 2 or even 3 for me.
But today when I asked my "senior service" boss to sign a leave pass for 3 days next week....he said" we need to talk"
Armed with the FEDEX envelope, he had been carrying for 30 mins before, we entered an office and he declared to me....
" I have never done this before"....scary...locked in an office with a WAFU and methinks he's going to kiss me.....when he say's....
"Chief...youve got redundancy!"
Deep joy.....nearly as good as winning the Grand Slam (thats my cover blown now!)
So "Hooded" and Safety Helmut"...I have the honour to say I am now in the same boat as you guys.
A week late...but who cares.
26 years, Unrepeatable experiences...but now time to go.
So there I was last Thursday waiting for the phone to ring, in the expectation that If I had been suceesful in my application for redundancy someone might call and say "Chief, Pls come to my Office".
No such phone call and so....Its tranche 2 or even 3 for me.
But today when I asked my "senior service" boss to sign a leave pass for 3 days next week....he said" we need to talk"
Armed with the FEDEX envelope, he had been carrying for 30 mins before, we entered an office and he declared to me....
" I have never done this before"....scary...locked in an office with a WAFU and methinks he's going to kiss me.....when he say's....
"Chief...youve got redundancy!"
Deep joy.....nearly as good as winning the Grand Slam (thats my cover blown now!)
So "Hooded" and Safety Helmut"...I have the honour to say I am now in the same boat as you guys.
A week late...but who cares.
26 years, Unrepeatable experiences...but now time to go.
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Pleased for u mate. Being told a week late is a bit out of order though.That must have been a week of dissappointment. Still god bless the Navy, at least they got round to telling you eventually!
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paradigm shift
Safety_Helmut did not get what he wanted and is turning green with envy.
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So "Hooded" and Safety Helmut"...I have the honour to say I am now in the same boat as you guys.
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I think LEAN has something to do with the high numbers of ground trades that applied for redundancy, I know that if I was able to apply I would have. Guess I will have to grin and bear it, break out the KY as it may make the next shafting a little less painfull.
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Perhaps we should start a Non-Redundancy thread for us 'winners'
It was nice to see the 'Investors In People' logo on the letters.
Just what exactly does a company have to do to qualify for the IiP award? Is it reviewed?
lineslime
I have seen some of the figures for the Rapid Improvement Event 2 which followed the Value Stream Analysis...etc etc.
They don't look very good. More later, over on the Lyneham Engineering thread.
Perhaps we should start a Non-Redundancy thread for us 'winners'
It was nice to see the 'Investors In People' logo on the letters.
Just what exactly does a company have to do to qualify for the IiP award? Is it reviewed?
lineslime
I have seen some of the figures for the Rapid Improvement Event 2 which followed the Value Stream Analysis...etc etc.
They don't look very good. More later, over on the Lyneham Engineering thread.
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Hope you get lucky next time around as I think you were wanting it this time. Looking forward to see what bolarks RIE2 (the revenge) throws up, although FLECS is looking good.
Hope you get lucky next time around as I think you were wanting it this time. Looking forward to see what bolarks RIE2 (the revenge) throws up, although FLECS is looking good.
Slightly off topic but I see that Burridge presided over the End of Air Engineer training in the RAF dinner at Cranwell last night...
The demise of a trade in whole it would now seem? My question is how on earth does the RAF train future Air Eng that may be needed through attrition and natural wastage within the trade. Does some WSOp get a quick retrade if the need arises?
The demise of a trade in whole it would now seem? My question is how on earth does the RAF train future Air Eng that may be needed through attrition and natural wastage within the trade. Does some WSOp get a quick retrade if the need arises?
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Air Eng training has finished so therefore no further candidates can become Air Engineers. The powers that be have thrown the dice and are now saying they have enough for all future needs..
Sir Brian's speech was excellent and I indeed pay compliments to his speech writer!! Well done and you clearly have a literary career ahead of you..
Sir Brian's speech was excellent and I indeed pay compliments to his speech writer!! Well done and you clearly have a literary career ahead of you..
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Not my dept, not my business, and no offence, but there are at least 4 ways of crisis managing any shortage of Air Eng's
1. Offer short term contracts to qualified Auzzies & Kiwis - already been done, can be done again.
2. Offer fast track to Ground Engineers - tried in 1999, no takers.
3. Auxillary Air Eng's - already have one at Lyneham, and several Aux Loadies, Navs & Pilots.
4. Make it worth your while to stay in, and stay longer.
Wrong thread anyway.
1. Offer short term contracts to qualified Auzzies & Kiwis - already been done, can be done again.
2. Offer fast track to Ground Engineers - tried in 1999, no takers.
3. Auxillary Air Eng's - already have one at Lyneham, and several Aux Loadies, Navs & Pilots.
4. Make it worth your while to stay in, and stay longer.
Wrong thread anyway.
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Apologies / commiserations mate.....Good Luck with T2.
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Does the exit date of 30 Sep 2005 apply rigidly to them or is there any flexibility in this date.
Having to pack up and move back to Blighty does take time.
"Safety_Helmut did not get what he wanted and is turning green with envy."
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I wonder if there are any fellow Overseas chaps in the forum who have received the big "R".
Does the exit date of 30 Sep 2005 apply rigidly to them or is there any flexibility in this date.
Having to pack up and move back to Blighty does take time.
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Happy times at Lyneham as many of those who weren't accepted 1st time round again are going to try again, and many who weren't eligable then but will be for t2 are filling out foms as I type. What a cheery world we live in.
SPHLC better luck this time round.
SPHLC better luck this time round.
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Taking a Civil Service jobs reduces Redundancy pay off?
Has anyone any knowledge or info regarding a rumour I heared of today.
Here is a snipet from an Email I got today from a mate:
"He thinks that if you take redundancy and then apply for a MOD job you have to pay back some of the Special Capital Payment in His case, It was £13 000 out of a redundancy payment of £28 000. "
Can any one help?
How big is the Paradigm Shift
Here is a snipet from an Email I got today from a mate:
"He thinks that if you take redundancy and then apply for a MOD job you have to pay back some of the Special Capital Payment in His case, It was £13 000 out of a redundancy payment of £28 000. "
Can any one help?
How big is the Paradigm Shift
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It is not a rumour.
From the DCI, I paraphrase, if you start with the Civil Service within 2 years of redundancy then you will have to repay. The formula is
Refund = (1-A/24) x 2B/3
where: A = number of complete months elapsed since redundancy and
B= The Annual Rate of Salary (excluding London Weighting) on appointment
So for example if you started a Civil service job paying 21k immediately on redundancy then the payback would be 14k. If you started 12 months after redundancy, payback would be 7k
Hope that explains it.
It is not a rumour.
From the DCI, I paraphrase, if you start with the Civil Service within 2 years of redundancy then you will have to repay. The formula is
Refund = (1-A/24) x 2B/3
where: A = number of complete months elapsed since redundancy and
B= The Annual Rate of Salary (excluding London Weighting) on appointment
So for example if you started a Civil service job paying 21k immediately on redundancy then the payback would be 14k. If you started 12 months after redundancy, payback would be 7k
Hope that explains it.
