RN Aircrew Application...... Or Not???
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801,
Well done for all that shippers........first hurdle nailed only another unpteen to go.
One small nugget of advice I would be tempted to give is.........wait for it........just ease off a little on the whole Royal Navy Fast Jet Pilot and think a little more about the whole Royal Navy Pilot thing.........i.e. there is a better than even chance of ending up going rotary.
I only say this because of the guy at Dartmouth who told everyone he met about how he was going to be a fast jet boy and got a really bad reputation throughout for being arrogant................then looked like a total p***s when he got chopped at grading for going wibble in a spin.
I have maximum respect for all those who do make it FJ, but they are generally pretty cool charachters who only tell those who really matter (such as flight commanders.....instructors etc) and not tell every Tom and dick they are going to "have thier names on the wall".
Good luck anyway with AIB, Dartmouth, Cranwell, Linton, Valley, Wittering etc etc
OTBL
Well done for all that shippers........first hurdle nailed only another unpteen to go.
One small nugget of advice I would be tempted to give is.........wait for it........just ease off a little on the whole Royal Navy Fast Jet Pilot and think a little more about the whole Royal Navy Pilot thing.........i.e. there is a better than even chance of ending up going rotary.
I only say this because of the guy at Dartmouth who told everyone he met about how he was going to be a fast jet boy and got a really bad reputation throughout for being arrogant................then looked like a total p***s when he got chopped at grading for going wibble in a spin.
I have maximum respect for all those who do make it FJ, but they are generally pretty cool charachters who only tell those who really matter (such as flight commanders.....instructors etc) and not tell every Tom and dick they are going to "have thier names on the wall".
Good luck anyway with AIB, Dartmouth, Cranwell, Linton, Valley, Wittering etc etc
OTBL
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Hey All,
Thanks for all the kind support and invaluable advice many have given to me over the last few weeks via this thread.
OTBL - To you Sir, after now visiting RAF Cranwell, and re-sitting FATS, I want nothing more than to be a Royal Navy Officer. It wouldn't really matter to me if I was Officer Aircrew, Engineer, Supply, Warfare.......... Just have that desire to Lead and Be Led, to work alongside some of the most talented individuals that this country has to offer in some of the most Trying Environments known to man....... All whilst keeping a Smile!!
If Commander Air gives me the opportunity to go to AIB, and I pass, I don't mind what I fly. Whether it be a Lynx, Merlin, Possible FJ, even the Bright Orange K15 Glider with Portsmouth Naval Gliding Club. Just want to be in the RN.
Piezo - No Problems Sir, Congrats on passing FATS to. I wish you all the very best with your application, and who knows. Could be seeing you soon. All The Very Best.
Regards, John
Thanks for all the kind support and invaluable advice many have given to me over the last few weeks via this thread.
OTBL - To you Sir, after now visiting RAF Cranwell, and re-sitting FATS, I want nothing more than to be a Royal Navy Officer. It wouldn't really matter to me if I was Officer Aircrew, Engineer, Supply, Warfare.......... Just have that desire to Lead and Be Led, to work alongside some of the most talented individuals that this country has to offer in some of the most Trying Environments known to man....... All whilst keeping a Smile!!
If Commander Air gives me the opportunity to go to AIB, and I pass, I don't mind what I fly. Whether it be a Lynx, Merlin, Possible FJ, even the Bright Orange K15 Glider with Portsmouth Naval Gliding Club. Just want to be in the RN.
Piezo - No Problems Sir, Congrats on passing FATS to. I wish you all the very best with your application, and who knows. Could be seeing you soon. All The Very Best.
Regards, John
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To the potential two of you who are off to AIB, I ook forward to possibly seeing you there, just back from Cranwell having passed my FATS. I'm exctatic, one rung further up the ladder!
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Hey All,
Well, AIB have been in touch and Cmdr Air has made his decision.
He is not going to let me take my RN Aircrew Application any further. AIB have offered me the chance for ATC/Fighter Controller which is good.
I feel a little dismayed at the fact that I was told I had a competitive score but have still missed out. Also feel a little misled by the RN again (I'm not being bitter if it seems that way). After failing FATS first time to be told by De-breifing Officer that I'll get another go only to be overruled by the AIB, seems to have happened again to some extent.
Think what I’m getting at is that I was given a 3rd chance at sitting FATS having already had a great score for P & failing O miserably. If they know that a re-sit will improve your score by only a small amount, then why on earth did they even offer me a 3rd attempt knowing I had to attain a miraculous score for O!!! Having said that I gather I did, only missing out by 2 Marks!!!!
Really thinking about writing a Letter to Cmdr Air, to see if he will let me take AIB for Aircrew. I know there has to be a line to which the RN must draw their standards to, but I am so Passionate and Determined that if there is a slight chance that I can take it any further, I will use it to the full.
Any advice or professional criticism is again welcomed by all, especially those in the know!!
Regards, V801
Well, AIB have been in touch and Cmdr Air has made his decision.
He is not going to let me take my RN Aircrew Application any further. AIB have offered me the chance for ATC/Fighter Controller which is good.
I feel a little dismayed at the fact that I was told I had a competitive score but have still missed out. Also feel a little misled by the RN again (I'm not being bitter if it seems that way). After failing FATS first time to be told by De-breifing Officer that I'll get another go only to be overruled by the AIB, seems to have happened again to some extent.
Think what I’m getting at is that I was given a 3rd chance at sitting FATS having already had a great score for P & failing O miserably. If they know that a re-sit will improve your score by only a small amount, then why on earth did they even offer me a 3rd attempt knowing I had to attain a miraculous score for O!!! Having said that I gather I did, only missing out by 2 Marks!!!!
Really thinking about writing a Letter to Cmdr Air, to see if he will let me take AIB for Aircrew. I know there has to be a line to which the RN must draw their standards to, but I am so Passionate and Determined that if there is a slight chance that I can take it any further, I will use it to the full.
Any advice or professional criticism is again welcomed by all, especially those in the know!!
Regards, V801
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Unlucky chap. At least you know you've tried as best you can and unfortunately some things are just not to be.
......If only I could play football well I'd be on £ 100 000 a week - but I can't.
Seriously, I don't know how true what you've posted is but write to Cmdr Air - he can only not reply. To be honest though, and I'm sure you'll realise this aswell, if you've had three cracks at the Aptitude tests they'd be after a decent score, above what would normally constitute a pass simply by virtue of having done them 3 times.
You could always change your name by deed poll and go back .......
......If only I could play football well I'd be on £ 100 000 a week - but I can't.
Seriously, I don't know how true what you've posted is but write to Cmdr Air - he can only not reply. To be honest though, and I'm sure you'll realise this aswell, if you've had three cracks at the Aptitude tests they'd be after a decent score, above what would normally constitute a pass simply by virtue of having done them 3 times.
You could always change your name by deed poll and go back .......
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V801 you said:
Everything you said about being a Royal Naval Officer is true.
So ... maybe accept a post as a Warfare Officer with a view to going FC. Do well at Dartmouth / Fleet time, get some decent reports under your belt then if age is not an issue try again? The FATS requirements may have changed by then and you could become what used to be a GL aviator maybe. And by then you would have a clearer idea about the Service and its lifestyle, have some fun, do a bit of travelling, decide what you really want out of life. If you are career minded, Warfare is the only way to go, aviators sometimes do well in the long run but it is rare - its the ship drivers or aviators that have been ship drivers/PWOs that reach the top. Obviously us gash shags dont have the capacity to manage warfare at 12 knots (!!!!) or sit in London/Portsmouth deciding whats best for the future
Anyway, good luck in whatever you decide.
Oggin
I want nothing more than to be a Royal Navy Officer. It wouldn't really matter to me if I was Officer Aircrew, Engineer, Supply, Warfare.......... Just have that desire to Lead and Be Led, to work alongside some of the most talented individuals that this country has to offer in some of the most Trying Environments known to man....... All whilst keeping a Smile!!
So ... maybe accept a post as a Warfare Officer with a view to going FC. Do well at Dartmouth / Fleet time, get some decent reports under your belt then if age is not an issue try again? The FATS requirements may have changed by then and you could become what used to be a GL aviator maybe. And by then you would have a clearer idea about the Service and its lifestyle, have some fun, do a bit of travelling, decide what you really want out of life. If you are career minded, Warfare is the only way to go, aviators sometimes do well in the long run but it is rare - its the ship drivers or aviators that have been ship drivers/PWOs that reach the top. Obviously us gash shags dont have the capacity to manage warfare at 12 knots (!!!!) or sit in London/Portsmouth deciding whats best for the future
Anyway, good luck in whatever you decide.
Oggin
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Dear All,
I am aware that these questions get asked time and again, and i have done a search on the website, but i was hoping that i could ask another question or from people like pielander who seems a good chap.
I have my first go at FATS coming up in a couple of months. I am aware of the s/d/t calculations, the remebering of long numbers etc tests that you are put through. However on a more general scale is there any books/cd roms/ anyhting that i can buy to better focus my revision for ALL of the tests. I have heard that you cant revise for some of the tests but surley this cant be true!!
I have the 2004 flight simulator game on my PC...is it worth getting good at this. I am very keen to be a warfare officer and to be pilot/observer/ anything to do with the RN, and i really dont want to mess up on the day.
Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks in advance
I am aware that these questions get asked time and again, and i have done a search on the website, but i was hoping that i could ask another question or from people like pielander who seems a good chap.
I have my first go at FATS coming up in a couple of months. I am aware of the s/d/t calculations, the remebering of long numbers etc tests that you are put through. However on a more general scale is there any books/cd roms/ anyhting that i can buy to better focus my revision for ALL of the tests. I have heard that you cant revise for some of the tests but surley this cant be true!!
I have the 2004 flight simulator game on my PC...is it worth getting good at this. I am very keen to be a warfare officer and to be pilot/observer/ anything to do with the RN, and i really dont want to mess up on the day.
Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks in advance
