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Have to also agree with SB22. Personally thought IOT `Partner's Day`, although nice, was the the RAF's initial attempt to tell the the girls; "nice you've got a career now tough titty, pretend your japanese and follow behind your good man from a distance of 4 ft". 
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Gentlemen, Gentlemen, Gentlemen (that doesn't include you Hyd3 - no gentleman would tell a lady to bu**er off).
SB22 is merely offering her side of the story to stupendousman, from her experience and at, I presume, a similar tender age! She did not come on to PPRuNe to be abused by and criticised by you, scotsman or you Hyd3 (oaf!). Please show a little bit of sensitivity. Abuse is OK for prats like crossbow but not for a young career-minded woman who is attempting to shine some light to help a possible recruit decide on whether he should join us or not.
An apology would be in order!
SB22,
Well done. Don't be put off by these ignorant fools. I am sorry that you came away from the Partner's Day with a slightly negative view. My wife was involved in setting them up in 1997 and I know for a fact that then they never did push the issue of being a "camp follower", in fact the opposite was the case. However, regrettably with these things, it is the personality of the people at the time that drive the agenda! Take it from me, I've been a Fast Jet Nav in the RAF for over 30 years and whilst the dark days of the 70s and 80s saw wives wearing their husband's rank(!), that is not the case today. I know a significant number of people from the FJ world who have commanded squadrons on their own whilst their wife followed their own careers 100s of miles away from their husbands.
Thank you for your sensible posts.
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SB22 is merely offering her side of the story to stupendousman, from her experience and at, I presume, a similar tender age! She did not come on to PPRuNe to be abused by and criticised by you, scotsman or you Hyd3 (oaf!). Please show a little bit of sensitivity. Abuse is OK for prats like crossbow but not for a young career-minded woman who is attempting to shine some light to help a possible recruit decide on whether he should join us or not.
An apology would be in order!
SB22,
Well done. Don't be put off by these ignorant fools. I am sorry that you came away from the Partner's Day with a slightly negative view. My wife was involved in setting them up in 1997 and I know for a fact that then they never did push the issue of being a "camp follower", in fact the opposite was the case. However, regrettably with these things, it is the personality of the people at the time that drive the agenda! Take it from me, I've been a Fast Jet Nav in the RAF for over 30 years and whilst the dark days of the 70s and 80s saw wives wearing their husband's rank(!), that is not the case today. I know a significant number of people from the FJ world who have commanded squadrons on their own whilst their wife followed their own careers 100s of miles away from their husbands.
Thank you for your sensible posts.
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THANKYOU foldingwings!!
As I mentioned before, I was giving my opinion as I felt suitably qualified to have an opinion regarding this post.
It was great to read others experiences of couples where the girlfriend/Fiance/Wife/Partner does have a career and makes it work. This subject has caused a bit of a personal dilemma for me in recent times but now I can see that it can work with us both having careers. Great!!
I have been totally put off of pprune by the comments made by some other members of this forum and it has been nice to have some support from other members!!!
As I mentioned before, I was giving my opinion as I felt suitably qualified to have an opinion regarding this post.
It was great to read others experiences of couples where the girlfriend/Fiance/Wife/Partner does have a career and makes it work. This subject has caused a bit of a personal dilemma for me in recent times but now I can see that it can work with us both having careers. Great!!
I have been totally put off of pprune by the comments made by some other members of this forum and it has been nice to have some support from other members!!!
I've read the whole thread and I have to agree with Scotsman on this one.
SB22 - You don't have to be suitably qualified to have an opinion!
You do however need to have at least lived on a married patch to be able to comment. I fear you have a very fuzzy view on what life on a married patch is actually like. The talk of flower arranging and the like is simply insulting to any wife of an officer. We are not living in the 1960's anymore and the Stepford Wives mentality simply doesn't exist.
You may be well qualified to comment on being an officers' girlfriend or long distance relationships but not on being married in the RAF or living on a married patch.
These are the facts as I see them! (Opinion)
TF
SB22 - You don't have to be suitably qualified to have an opinion!
You do however need to have at least lived on a married patch to be able to comment. I fear you have a very fuzzy view on what life on a married patch is actually like. The talk of flower arranging and the like is simply insulting to any wife of an officer. We are not living in the 1960's anymore and the Stepford Wives mentality simply doesn't exist.
You may be well qualified to comment on being an officers' girlfriend or long distance relationships but not on being married in the RAF or living on a married patch.
These are the facts as I see them! (Opinion)
TF
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Quote "I've read the whole thread and I have to agree with Scotsman on this one." Quote
Thankyou Time Flies!
My whole point was not to insult or criticise anyone, but rather to point out that wives (not girlfriends) have the option to work/have a career and still be with their men on the patch.
Just because SB22 attended a 'partners day' and was given a bad impression does not mean that that is how all wives on the patch live.
Maybe she should try speaking to wives who hold down careers before she makes such sweeping statements!
Thankyou Time Flies!
My whole point was not to insult or criticise anyone, but rather to point out that wives (not girlfriends) have the option to work/have a career and still be with their men on the patch.
Just because SB22 attended a 'partners day' and was given a bad impression does not mean that that is how all wives on the patch live.
Maybe she should try speaking to wives who hold down careers before she makes such sweeping statements!
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Agression was not my intention, but you have to admit that to label all wives on base as baby machines whose brains have turned to mush with all the coffee they drink was slightly insulting!
