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Hi Gang;
So nice of D(ic)K 338 to remind us that most of the mob (including me) are mere council house kids wanting to be better.....
I dream of the silver spoon in my gob!!!
PS...for room 101 I suggest the following;
1. Middle Class Tw*ts
2. Crappy PAR talkdown controllers...
3. Crappy QFIs slagging ATC peeps trying to do their job
4. The latest round of cuts......sorry...options!!!
Regards to Most...
SFS
So nice of D(ic)K 338 to remind us that most of the mob (including me) are mere council house kids wanting to be better.....
I dream of the silver spoon in my gob!!!
PS...for room 101 I suggest the following;
1. Middle Class Tw*ts
2. Crappy PAR talkdown controllers...
3. Crappy QFIs slagging ATC peeps trying to do their job
4. The latest round of cuts......sorry...options!!!
Regards to Most...
SFS
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Now a 'J' Bloke!!
Mate, I'm not the one who has a problem with council estates, I was merely responding to the snobbery of Matoman. If my post offended you I apologise. DK
Matoman,
Ah Bunter, got to you have I? Excellent!
The Walter Mitty La La land life that you lead is all very amusing , but really I ask you. Please, be a good chap and kindly refrain from pretending to hail from the higher orders, it's pretty obvious that you're a little person with delusions of grandeur and therefore must be particularly galling to have spent 30 years in the Service and still be a junior officer, what's it like? Please do tell. I bet you hail from a horrid little suberb like Pinner or Hounslow or is it a new town per chance, Bracknell or Milton Keynes maye?
Anyway Mintoman, must dash, got a parlour maid to roger.
DK
PS: I am only too aware of the dets that the ATC mafia are manning thank you. I still have yet to see one of them in the field, unlike adminers, plods and flight ops to name the 3 trades that you appear to belittle. When did you last operate from a field strip supporting the Army? Never I wager.
Mate, I'm not the one who has a problem with council estates, I was merely responding to the snobbery of Matoman. If my post offended you I apologise. DK
Matoman,
Ah Bunter, got to you have I? Excellent!
The Walter Mitty La La land life that you lead is all very amusing , but really I ask you. Please, be a good chap and kindly refrain from pretending to hail from the higher orders, it's pretty obvious that you're a little person with delusions of grandeur and therefore must be particularly galling to have spent 30 years in the Service and still be a junior officer, what's it like? Please do tell. I bet you hail from a horrid little suberb like Pinner or Hounslow or is it a new town per chance, Bracknell or Milton Keynes maye?
Anyway Mintoman, must dash, got a parlour maid to roger.
DK
PS: I am only too aware of the dets that the ATC mafia are manning thank you. I still have yet to see one of them in the field, unlike adminers, plods and flight ops to name the 3 trades that you appear to belittle. When did you last operate from a field strip supporting the Army? Never I wager.
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For Room 101:
1 GDT/ODT/CCS
2 Parades and Ceremonials
3 Fitness Tests
4 Dinghy Drills
5 Inspections
6 Ground Cats
7 Route Checks/Drop Checks
8 MCT
9 CRM
10 Annual Medicals
11 Tents
12 Station Duties
13 AR5 (If they bring it back)
14 ACRs
15 Iraq
16 Afghanistan
17 Sierra Leone
18 Falklands
19 Ivory Coast
20 Dakar
21 Goose Bay
1 GDT/ODT/CCS
2 Parades and Ceremonials
3 Fitness Tests
4 Dinghy Drills
5 Inspections
6 Ground Cats
7 Route Checks/Drop Checks
8 MCT
9 CRM
10 Annual Medicals
11 Tents
12 Station Duties
13 AR5 (If they bring it back)
14 ACRs
15 Iraq
16 Afghanistan
17 Sierra Leone
18 Falklands
19 Ivory Coast
20 Dakar
21 Goose Bay
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DK338 - you obviously have no idea of what the Air Traffic Controllers on Tactical Communications Wing do then.
It was one of the first modern "Tactical" units established (pre-Falklands war) - well before half of the RAF went "Tactical" just because they wore green once-a-month.
As for working with the Army/getting out on ops etc - I don't recall seeing you in Oman 2 months before Saif Sareea II started or 3 weeks after if finished, or in Afghanistan 45 days before the RAF Regt pitched up to establish the APOD (without any tents or ammo - but that is another story), or in Sierra Leone on a number of Ops, or running the airhead for the troop deployment in to Prestina, or some of the first people of the line in both Gulf Wars.... I really can't be bothered to continue the list.
Or all of the Air Traffic Controllers that operate as airspace managers within the Army command formations (Bde/Div/Corps), or the 2 Air Trafficers that are BALOs, or those in JFACC.
So as a branch I think you will find there are a lot of people who are operationally focused. Yes there are some I would not send outside of the camp gate without an escort - but do not tar us all with the same brush.
Anyway,
As for the original question of this thread my suggestion for Rm 101 would be:
1. Staff Officers with no operational experience running operations.
2. A supply system that does not supply - I have been waiting 7 weeks for a new pair of shoes.
3. DK338 - for changing what could have been a humorous thread in to a bitch and moan that he obviously can't do face to face at his unit....
Merry Christmas one and all....
MATZ
It was one of the first modern "Tactical" units established (pre-Falklands war) - well before half of the RAF went "Tactical" just because they wore green once-a-month.
As for working with the Army/getting out on ops etc - I don't recall seeing you in Oman 2 months before Saif Sareea II started or 3 weeks after if finished, or in Afghanistan 45 days before the RAF Regt pitched up to establish the APOD (without any tents or ammo - but that is another story), or in Sierra Leone on a number of Ops, or running the airhead for the troop deployment in to Prestina, or some of the first people of the line in both Gulf Wars.... I really can't be bothered to continue the list.
Or all of the Air Traffic Controllers that operate as airspace managers within the Army command formations (Bde/Div/Corps), or the 2 Air Trafficers that are BALOs, or those in JFACC.
So as a branch I think you will find there are a lot of people who are operationally focused. Yes there are some I would not send outside of the camp gate without an escort - but do not tar us all with the same brush.
Anyway,
As for the original question of this thread my suggestion for Rm 101 would be:
1. Staff Officers with no operational experience running operations.
2. A supply system that does not supply - I have been waiting 7 weeks for a new pair of shoes.
3. DK338 - for changing what could have been a humorous thread in to a bitch and moan that he obviously can't do face to face at his unit....
Merry Christmas one and all....
MATZ
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another one for 101:
Culdrose Flying Clothing Store - you think they'd bought the stuff in there from their own bank accounts, such is their reluctance to give you absa-bl@@dy-lutely anything at all without needing permission in triplicate from Cdr Air, the CO, your mum and the cleaner. All i wanted was another roll-neck vest which got 'lost' on board in the wash. Even prepared to buy one. No, came the reply, i needed to report the theft to the Police and come back with a crime reference number, or at the very least a letter from the CO explaining the circumstances in which it got lost. Then i was told that as an officer i should "be more responsible for my kit"!
came my reply...
Rant over. Needed to get that off my chest. Cheers.
Culdrose Flying Clothing Store - you think they'd bought the stuff in there from their own bank accounts, such is their reluctance to give you absa-bl@@dy-lutely anything at all without needing permission in triplicate from Cdr Air, the CO, your mum and the cleaner. All i wanted was another roll-neck vest which got 'lost' on board in the wash. Even prepared to buy one. No, came the reply, i needed to report the theft to the Police and come back with a crime reference number, or at the very least a letter from the CO explaining the circumstances in which it got lost. Then i was told that as an officer i should "be more responsible for my kit"!
came my reply...Rant over. Needed to get that off my chest. Cheers.
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MATZ,
How do you know, eh? I certainly don't recal seeing may air traffickers funnily enough.
Anyway, my comments are aimed at the majority not the dedicated few, I suggest you re-read my origional post to appreciate that I am the first to understand that not all are bad, just not enough to matter. My experiences of ATC personnel employed in BALO jobs was not favourable. They all whined and whinged about being in an army environment and that it was too military for them When I did a spell on a Bde, I loved it and would have willingly transferred to a green uniform if it wasn't for the fact I was an old knacker.
So to add to my list
12. Humourless Air Traffickers with Waffer thin skin.
13. Fat lardy pie eating, tabbing air traffickers too bloaty to make it up the stairs to the VCR without the aid of a stair lift.
14. Stupid and lazy junior officer controllers with no officer qualities hiding away to see out their time to IPP - sack 'em I say!
15. TACATC for thinking their 'Special'. Bunch of ponces
16. ATC JFACC staff for not understanding the differences between dissimilar. (It's a fast jet innit?)
17. Battlespace management gimps for planning ingress/egress routes to a target area without first being aware of fuel burn/range/endurance.
TTFN
How do you know, eh? I certainly don't recal seeing may air traffickers funnily enough.
Anyway, my comments are aimed at the majority not the dedicated few, I suggest you re-read my origional post to appreciate that I am the first to understand that not all are bad, just not enough to matter. My experiences of ATC personnel employed in BALO jobs was not favourable. They all whined and whinged about being in an army environment and that it was too military for them When I did a spell on a Bde, I loved it and would have willingly transferred to a green uniform if it wasn't for the fact I was an old knacker.
So to add to my list
12. Humourless Air Traffickers with Waffer thin skin.
13. Fat lardy pie eating, tabbing air traffickers too bloaty to make it up the stairs to the VCR without the aid of a stair lift.
14. Stupid and lazy junior officer controllers with no officer qualities hiding away to see out their time to IPP - sack 'em I say!
15. TACATC for thinking their 'Special'. Bunch of ponces
16. ATC JFACC staff for not understanding the differences between dissimilar. (It's a fast jet innit?)
17. Battlespace management gimps for planning ingress/egress routes to a target area without first being aware of fuel burn/range/endurance.
TTFN
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What was the thread about again? Oh yes, I remember...
Room 101. Let's see. If I went down the corridor and opened the door to Room 101 it might contain (in no real order):
1) Lazy television journalists posing as military experts and pontificating on operations.
2) Trying to get anything from the Clothing Store
3) Working with the Americans
Room 101. Let's see. If I went down the corridor and opened the door to Room 101 it might contain (in no real order):
1) Lazy television journalists posing as military experts and pontificating on operations.
2) Trying to get anything from the Clothing Store
3) Working with the Americans
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- 'trendy' George W Bush haters... most of the fools know sod all about politics or America
- tree hugging, yogurt knitting liberals who take more offence at Allied troops storming a building than they do at fanatics chopping innocent peoples heads off on video.
- George Galloway (see above) - p*** off and live in Iraq, or better still join you pal Saddam in prison.
- 'Yes' men
- Tony Blair and New Labour
- tree hugging, yogurt knitting liberals who take more offence at Allied troops storming a building than they do at fanatics chopping innocent peoples heads off on video.
- George Galloway (see above) - p*** off and live in Iraq, or better still join you pal Saddam in prison.
- 'Yes' men
- Tony Blair and New Labour
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Going to the toilets in a military establishment, only to find a note on the door saying:
"Only to be used by Officers, Warrent Officers and civilians"
So everyone from Flight Sgt down comes below the civvy cleaner then huh?
"Only to be used by Officers, Warrent Officers and civilians"
So everyone from Flight Sgt down comes below the civvy cleaner then huh?
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Room 101
Hey I love the ATC exchanges.
My limited experience of them (20 years) is mixed.
They were generally a lazy bunch who were the tail always trying to wag the dog.
Never found them useful in NI, Bosnia, Iraq etc, or for that matter at Odiham! Add to that the flyco pains.
They were great at Shawbury, young girls up for a laugh who had already realised their male ATC course mates were not their social choice. Great to see AAC Sgts getting in there whilst on the QHI course and the Navy were great sports too.
So for my room 101:
Flight deck controllers.
Car drivers who think they can drive fast because noone else deserves the road.
Those who cannot accept the majority vote in politics.
MQ habitants who think they are the special case.
The RAF still having number 2s, Navy blues and other military office attire; scrap them and everyone who needs a 34 inch or bigger waist CS95 (when is CS04 in?) gets a medical discharge.
Yes I hate fatties in uniform, get off your butts and stop blaming your metabolism, genes or hormones.
GT
My limited experience of them (20 years) is mixed.
They were generally a lazy bunch who were the tail always trying to wag the dog.
Never found them useful in NI, Bosnia, Iraq etc, or for that matter at Odiham! Add to that the flyco pains.
They were great at Shawbury, young girls up for a laugh who had already realised their male ATC course mates were not their social choice. Great to see AAC Sgts getting in there whilst on the QHI course and the Navy were great sports too.
So for my room 101:
Flight deck controllers.
Car drivers who think they can drive fast because noone else deserves the road.
Those who cannot accept the majority vote in politics.
MQ habitants who think they are the special case.
The RAF still having number 2s, Navy blues and other military office attire; scrap them and everyone who needs a 34 inch or bigger waist CS95 (when is CS04 in?) gets a medical discharge.
Yes I hate fatties in uniform, get off your butts and stop blaming your metabolism, genes or hormones.
GT
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Sweep Complete,
Might I suggest the books "Rogue State" by William Blum or "The Best Democracy Money can buy" by Greg Palast. Both interesting reads and availavble on Amazon, then decide if you want to retract that comment
If you want my copies ill post them once they have finished doing the rounds
- 'trendy' George W Bush haters... most of the fools know sod all about politics or America
Might I suggest the books "Rogue State" by William Blum or "The Best Democracy Money can buy" by Greg Palast. Both interesting reads and availavble on Amazon, then decide if you want to retract that comment
If you want my copies ill post them once they have finished doing the rounds
Prejudiced jockstrapaholic racing snakes - they too can go to Room 101!
Hyperventilating shrink-wrapped tw@ts who don't pay road tax using their damn velocipedes on crowded roads and getting in the way of people who drive fast cars - off to Room 101 with 'em!
And everyone who has yet to realise that 'fun run' is, by definition, an oxymoron.
Hyperventilating shrink-wrapped tw@ts who don't pay road tax using their damn velocipedes on crowded roads and getting in the way of people who drive fast cars - off to Room 101 with 'em!
And everyone who has yet to realise that 'fun run' is, by definition, an oxymoron.
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.... next you'll be reccommending the trash that Michael Moore spouts forth. Just accept that more Americans voted for Bush than for Kerry, and so according to the principles of DEMOCRACY that makes him the president of the USA.
And don't even start with all the nonsense about American religious nutters voting him in - try ordinary Americans who cling to some semblence of honest family values despite the best efforts of the tree hugging liberals.
.... next you'll be reccommending the trash that Michael Moore spouts forth. Just accept that more Americans voted for Bush than for Kerry, and so according to the principles of DEMOCRACY that makes him the president of the USA.
And don't even start with all the nonsense about American religious nutters voting him in - try ordinary Americans who cling to some semblence of honest family values despite the best efforts of the tree hugging liberals.
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Surely a DEMOCRACY is the right to publish facts, opinions and to have the right to vote in elections...
Obviously you are as biased and blinkered in your opinions as Michael Moore is. Would be interesting to know if you actually watched Farenheit 9/11.
How democratic was the 2000 Election? Honest family values and liberalism eh? The whole system of government should have honesty and integrity before preaching about "honest family values", More a case of "do as I say, not as I do"
Obviously you are as biased and blinkered in your opinions as Michael Moore is. Would be interesting to know if you actually watched Farenheit 9/11.
How democratic was the 2000 Election? Honest family values and liberalism eh? The whole system of government should have honesty and integrity before preaching about "honest family values", More a case of "do as I say, not as I do"
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- Not biassed or blinkered (and I have seen Farenheit 9/11 and read his books). I happen to think it is mostly b******s!
And no one stops him printing these 'facts and opinions'.
- Show me a government anywhere in the world that could truely be described as having honesty and integrity.
- My point remains that it has become the 'in thing' to dislike George W Bush, and I still maintain that MOST people who claim such a dislike know sod all about America or politics.
- p.s. it is 2004, and more people in America wanted Bush as their President than wanted Kerry (see GTNavs earlier entry to Room 101....
And no one stops him printing these 'facts and opinions'.
- Show me a government anywhere in the world that could truely be described as having honesty and integrity.
- My point remains that it has become the 'in thing' to dislike George W Bush, and I still maintain that MOST people who claim such a dislike know sod all about America or politics.
- p.s. it is 2004, and more people in America wanted Bush as their President than wanted Kerry (see GTNavs earlier entry to Room 101....
Those who cannot accept the majority vote in politics
