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flightfaa 16th June 2016 22:04

Ive got my popcorn ready for the show

mutt 20th June 2016 21:03

So the COO is gone, replaced by an extremely interesting (semi) outsider, this should be fun :)

argentina21 20th June 2016 23:34

What about overall fleet size? With all of the changes is the fleet size going to increase or decrease?

Also, what about the future orders. Are they still coming?

Flyboy_SG 27th June 2016 06:25

And they want to compete with dah Big 3.

ExDubai 27th June 2016 12:57


Originally Posted by Romasik (Post 9410941)
I'll tell you more: even existing 330s are heading to one of the African companies next year. 330 pilots will be transferred to 747 classic, which Saudia is bringing back from the desert and to E170, which is not retiring any more. By seniority. Interesting times ahead:}

That's a joke, isn't it ?

Romasik 28th June 2016 10:10


Originally Posted by ExDubai (Post 9421946)
That's a joke, isn't it ?

It depends. If someone seriously beleives that new 330s are not coming, I'm damn seriouse:}

flightfaa 29th June 2016 18:22

Its a joke ExDubai,

Welcome to the Rumor Network!

7oodaz 16th July 2016 18:03

Romasik, u were just about to break my heart :D i've just started my training on the A330 after flying the B738 for 6 years :D kept begging those idiots to put me on the B777 but no one ever listened :D , now if they r gonna sell the A330's and no A330 R's are coming, so im literally ****** up :D and the same applies on the RUH base, if it happens, i'll pack my backpack and go back to my Beloved B738 :D

7oodaz 16th July 2016 20:47

well, guys i really need your opinions, as i mentioned in my last post, i have been flying the B738 at Egyptair for almost 6 years, now i've just started my training in SV on the A330, i kept begging them to put me on the B777 and no one ever listened, as you may know the A330 Destinations are really bad ( unlike what i used to on the B738 ) as well as they dont make good money compared to the B777 . i really hate the transfer from the B738 to the A330, i do hate the country and can't deal with people here as well . im thinking to return to Egyptair my home airline, and i want you to tell me what do you think i shall do ? the salary in SV is the double of what i get at Egyptair . would you please give me an advice ?

ExDubai 17th July 2016 00:21


Originally Posted by 7oodaz (Post 9442156)
well, guys i really need your opinions, as i mentioned in my last post, i have been flying the B738 at Egyptair for almost 6 years, now i've just started my training in SV on the A330, i kept begging them to put me on the B777 and no one ever listened, as you may know the A330 Destinations are really bad ( unlike what i used to on the B738 ) as well as they dont make good money compared to the B777 . i really hate the transfer from the B738 to the A330, i do hate the country and can't deal with people here as well . im thinking to return to Egyptair my home airline, and i want you to tell me what do you think i shall do ? the salary in SV is the double of what i get at Egyptair . would you please give me an advice ?

At the end of the day it's your decision. From my point of view quality of life matters, if I'm not happy I would leave.

mutt 17th July 2016 10:26


kept begging those idiots to put me on the B777 but no one ever listened
Why are they idiots for not putting you on the B777? Did you ever stop to consider that they didn't need additional expat crews on that fleet?

7oodaz 17th July 2016 10:51

that' not what i've been told in the interview, even the initial contract they sent me on my email it said FO B777/A330 , when i arrived here i discovered that its the A330, kept begging for the B777 and all i got was a clear no WHILE i had colleagues from Egyptair who were with me on the same interview day, same arrival day, and they got the B777, and for your knowledge, im the only expat on the A330 who has got no Airbus experience, all FO's from Egyptair who flown the B738 are here on the B777 ( almost 50 sth ) Except me !

Romasik 17th July 2016 11:27


Originally Posted by 7oodaz (Post 9442053)
Romasik, u were just about to break my heart :D i've just started my training on the A330 after flying the B738 for 6 years :D kept begging those idiots to put me on the B777 but no one ever listened :D , now if they r gonna sell the A330's and no A330 R's are coming, so im literally ****** up :D and the same applies on the RUH base, if it happens, i'll pack my backpack and go back to my Beloved B738 :D

Come on! It was so obviously unrealistic that I never thought someone would take it at face value:)
You will not have good destinations on 330, but other than that it's going to be a good equipment: good money and no jet lags. If you make it through training. Good luck!
To make you feel better about company decision to put you on 330, I'll tell you that almost all of the initial 330 batch came from company 747. Despite of 10-20 years seniority. Company requirment. Period.
You still have complains with your zero ceniority and foreign 737 experience?

guiones 17th July 2016 21:59

A330
 
From a very wise man:

Either u like it or u leave it.

alloha 17th July 2016 23:52

Stop crying
 

Originally Posted by 7oodaz (Post 9442576)
that' not what i've been told in the interview, even the initial contract they sent me on my email it said FO B777/A330 , when i arrived here i discovered that its the A330, kept begging for the B777 and all i got was a clear no WHILE i had colleagues from Egyptair who were with me on the same interview day, same arrival day, and they got the B777, and for your knowledge, im the only expat on the A330 who has got no Airbus experience, all FO's from Egyptair who flown the B738 are here on the B777 ( almost 50 sth ) Except me !

First of all you are acting like a crying 5 year old " o little John got an ice cream I got a candy I want an ice cream as well " Then you are lying because by any means the Egyptian FOs on the 777 are 50. 50 in total are the expat FOs in 777 coming from UK Italy Spain Egypt Pakistan France India Tunis Malaysians etc etc. furthermore about your begging , this is their company they will do whatever they want. If you don't like it pack your bags,it's only 1.30 minutes flight to CAI. Can you imagine how many Saudis with greater experience than you are stuck in the 320? Or how many of them came down from the 747? Man I do admire your arrogance and your attitude.And as you admitted the contract you signed had a 777/330,which means any of them. The contract I signed had only 777 and they have told me from day one in the assessment that's gonna be 777. So basically you got two options. A) stop crying improve your attitude and keep studying or B) pack your things and go back to your beloved 738 in Egyptair with the rumor spreading around that you failed your training in Saudia. Enjoy

guiones 18th July 2016 11:49

Spot on Alloha. Well said!

7oodaz 19th July 2016 10:46

well, Alloha, i confess i may have sounded kinda emotional and unprofessional and that was because my mind was totally messed up, i know its their company and they do what they wish and i have nothing but to accept it or leave, thats why i was asking your opinions guys shall i leave or not, i asked for nothing else ! and once i arrived, asked for the 777 and been told a big NO , i didnt even mention it again since then ! so its not like iam a crying 5 years old for a candy or ice cream . anyway thank you for your opinion mate, oh and yes, my first FTD session was 2 days ago so i didn't get the chance to fail any exam and/or check YET :D
anyway i resigned yesterday because just like what guiones said, " Either u like it or u leave it. "

alloha 19th July 2016 18:00


Originally Posted by 7oodaz (Post 9444682)
well, Alloha, i confess i may have sounded kinda emotional and unprofessional and that was because my mind was totally messed up, i know its their company and they do what they wish and i have nothing but to accept it or leave, thats why i was asking your opinions guys shall i leave or not, i asked for nothing else ! and once i arrived, asked for the 777 and been told a big NO , i didnt even mention it again since then ! so its not like iam a crying 5 years old for a candy or ice cream . anyway thank you for your opinion mate, oh and yes, my first FTD session was 2 days ago so i didn't get the chance to fail any exam and/or check YET :D
anyway i resigned yesterday because just like what guiones said, " Either u like it or u leave it. "

First of all i never said you gonna fail. I said that some rumors may be spread out will say "he failed". Good thing for you going back home. Its your choise. Keep in mind though that is not very professional having a company paying you for your training and you resigning on second day of FTD. There are other Egyptians who might will to join Saudia and imagine what damage you do to them. Anyway i couldnt care less. Fly safe

7oodaz 19th July 2016 18:16

Alloha, sir i did not say that you said im gonna fail i understood what u were talking about :) , and about resigning on second day of FTD, i couldn't make that decision earlier, coz it would have been too early to judge, i honestly took the decision as soon as i could . i didn't mean anything by resigning at that stage . and they shouldn't judge on Egyptians because of a single act .
thanks for the care sir :) it has been nice talking and listening to your opinion .

Flyboy_SG 19th July 2016 22:56

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That's a bad hasty decision you took. A330 is a good fleet and they have started getting good layovers now. It's a wide body at the end of the day and it is a good job. After release you would get almost double of your basic. Which is too good . Besides in 330 your training would be faster. Not everyone gets to come this far. You could have completed one contact and went back home. There nothing wrong with the people are attitude here. You know their language that's an added advantage. You haven't see the worst,that's all I would say. I'm on 777 but I would still have taken the 330 if I had no option other than that.

Any ways good luck.


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