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CI54,
My humble and genuine question to you then is, 'are things different then'. Begs a reply |
Just do it the way they want. It's a part of the job description. And it,s not unsafe at all. Instructor just prepares you to the checkride and then you are on your own. It's not a big deal for a professional pilot who is aware that the are other ways to operate the same plane. BTW, the differences are not really significant. Basically standard A or B procedures.
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Originally Posted by King on a Wing
(Post 9467985)
heard some horror stories with regards to training at SV.most of them turn out to be spot on.two of my buddies opted out in the 3rd and fourth month of training. Skippers both
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Originally Posted by Top gun pilot 797
(Post 9468136)
CI54,
My humble and genuine question to you then is, 'are things different then'. Begs a reply |
Where/why the need for the big recruitment at Saudia? Is it still growth or attrition?
If attrition, why? I have read the entire thread and read the reference to failure rates exceeding 50%. Is that it or is there also significant attrition due contracts not being renewed along with retirements? Do new hires receive full pay during training or is training pay reduced? Any updates on RUH base for new hires? |
Igig,
During training you will receive basic salary, which will depend on aircraft category and position. Not sure if Riyadh base is forced on new hires. Attrition rate during training is mostly due to people failing or leaving due to various reasons, housing (or lack of it) being number one..... Saudia on 99,99 %of cases renew the contract, I cannot remember any case where they do not renew the contract after the 3 years. |
I cannot remember any case where they do not renew the contract after the 3 years. |
Annnnnnd they advertise again....!!
For Skippers only this time. I can bet my months salary they won't get more than ten percent of what they need. Simply to run their fleet on a routine basis. The training needs a serious re-vamping and re-strategizing. Whether it happens or not, is another story completely !! |
Don't care about them
Originally Posted by 7oodaz
(Post 9444682)
well, Alloha, i confess i may have sounded kinda emotional and unprofessional and that was because my mind was totally messed up, i know its their company and they do what they wish and i have nothing but to accept it or leave, thats why i was asking your opinions guys shall i leave or not, i asked for nothing else ! and once i arrived, asked for the 777 and been told a big NO , i didnt even mention it again since then ! so its not like iam a crying 5 years old for a candy or ice cream . anyway thank you for your opinion mate, oh and yes, my first FTD session was 2 days ago so i didn't get the chance to fail any exam and/or check YET :D
anyway i resigned yesterday because just like what guiones said, " Either u like it or u leave it. " Always look for your happiness, don't care to what people will think. You took a brave and hard decision to leave. I hope you're happier now ! Good luck and happy landings. |
Live abroad
Is it possible to live abroad of SA (i.e. Barhein) when flying for Saudia ?
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Originally Posted by SkullFlyer
(Post 9473581)
Is it possible to live abroad of SA (i.e. Barhein) when flying for Saudia ?
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Originally Posted by alloha
(Post 9473938)
There is a higher possibility of a 3 year old baby to fly a 777
Anyway, I get it. It is not allowed to live abroad. Thanks ! |
Skullflyer- These commuting questions come up all of the time. Either through the thread or via PM. Everybody on here working for Saudia have made it very clear and very honestly that this is in no way a commuting contract. You do get a block of 5 days off per month but rarely does that extend beyond 5 days.
Sadly people come to Saudia having ignored all the information and EXPECTING to be able to commute. They spend their time complaining and making people who are very happy working for Saudia miserable. The other point is that you get the type of aircraft which they give you. If that's going to be a hardship then don't come. In all likelihood over the next few years the vast majority of experienced widebody captains will be put on the A330. Another point; it is still only about 50% who start that are still with the company after one year. I'm not sure of the percentages failing or just chosing to leave. |
I'm not sure of the percentages failing or just chosing to leave. Of the other nationalities, you have to ask how many are on leave from their national airlines and can walk back into their old jobs. |
Originally Posted by SkullFlyer
(Post 9473976)
Considering all your answers above, either you trying to be funny or you must be frustated.
Anyway, I get it. It is not allowed to live abroad. Thanks ! |
Originally Posted by polax52
(Post 9474076)
Skullflyer- These commuting questions come up all of the time. Either through the thread or via PM. Everybody on here working for Saudia have made it very clear and very honestly that this is in no way a commuting contract. You do get a block of 5 days off per month but rarely does that extend beyond 5 days.
Sadly people come to Saudia having ignored all the information and EXPECTING to be able to commute. They spend their time complaining and making people who are very happy working for Saudia miserable. The other point is that you get the type of aircraft which they give you. If that's going to be a hardship then don't come. In all likelihood over the next few years the vast majority of experienced widebody captains will be put on the A330. Another point; it is still only about 50% who start that are still with the company after one year. I'm not sure of the percentages failing or just chosing to leave. Happy landings ! |
Originally Posted by alloha
(Post 9474269)
Frustrated? Yes maybe,but not with SV . The company has kept all its promises. Salary on time, my 5 days off per month (sometimes 6) , a house in Saudia city.but Frustrated with people who have not realized what this company is all about ,yes maybe I am. And it's not difficult to get the point. All the people who work ,or have worked for SV, have posted here several times that the contract is not for commuters. And yes ,sometimes I try to be funny. I use humor as a self defense mechanism to the stupidity of some comments
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Embraer Fleet
What is happening with the embraer fleet. It seems that they are keeping them for now.
Any news if recruiting will start before the year ends?? |
If you want a commuting contract, try Privatair, they are operating an A319 for Saudia under the brand Al-Bayraq.
They are offering 20/10, but that extra 4-5 days off will cost you half the salary of a normal A320 Captain. |
Does anyone know if a new hire 777 Captain will be hired to Jeddah or is there the possibility of Riyadh ? Also can they change equipment type on arrival ? eg I am 777 current , can they put mr on 787 or 330 ?
Can the domicile change at any moment ? Reason is that I would like to bring the family . Anyone there with kids in international schools kind enough to pm me about what its really like for family . Also would a family of 4 be based be given a villa in Saudi City , or where ? Whats the accomodation like in both Jeddah and Riyadh ? Do you think that Saudisation will eventually mean all expats will be replaced as soon as they can ? Appreciate any feedback . Pm if you prefer . Thanks very much. |
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