Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11292812)

yes they don’t like paying for older experienced pilots but they need us, why?

Many years ago, at one of the pilots meetings, we were told that EKs insurance premiums had dropped. EK was very happy! They also explained why.

Airlines have insurance, in some respects similar to car insurance.so aircraft age, number of aircraft, route structure, accident record, safety record, maintenance, hours flown etc all count towards premiums. Also a major factor is pilots ages and experience levels. Too many young, inexperienced pilots mean the premiums go up.

So while senior experienced captains may cost some money in reality they need a proportion of the flight crew to be older and more experienced to balance out the number of young, inexperienced Pilots coming through, in order to keep the insurance companies happy! Also it makes passengers a bit happier knowing there’s some experience on the flight deck?

(plus someone needs to make sure the young, I’ve been flying commercially for 2 years, I therefore know it all, facebook wonder, instagram pasting, Porsche/ Bentley / Ferrari driving (delete as necessary ), I think it’s normal to fly in fully reclined position with feet up because it’s cool, mobile phone hugging, I’m a sky god type actually remembers he’s got to do a job whilst on flight deck)
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Originally Posted by Mike Koal (Post 11292906)

Plenty of older hands who have decided to reinvent themselves in EK after another failed marriage.

A new Thai girlfriend the same age as their daughter, a new account on tinder with a username like SmoothOperator, big speeches with the crew half their age about going out for ramen and a beer down route and they will buy the first drink (they usually don't turn up) , taking selfies on the steps at the end of the flight doing peace signs closing an eye and sticking a tongue out, giving relationship advice to the new GR2 for an hour in the galley armed with a fairly recently acquired complexed knowledge of star sign compatibility, out on ladies nights at ramusake bopping their head, tapping their foot to the beat and holding a desperado with a lime in it, a new car with a price tag of a small mortgage and a roof that comes off and an apple sticker on it, posts on Instagram of their protein shakes with cheeky captions like 'never skip leg day', walking around airports with an extremely small cup of branded coffee, flying over the pole in their dressing gown and slippers alongside a sizeable collection of the first class amenity kit, a semi-professional origami attempt on their cap, a glove left in the bunk for us because they are now young and trendy.

Originally Posted by nimrodjoe (Post 11291503)

Anybody would think a recessions on its way…

just got to make sure where you end up is indeed more secure

Originally Posted by Emma Royds (Post 11292986)

After the shambolic way in which the company handled the COVID redundancy process, the bar has been set rather low for what constitutes a more secure position.

Originally Posted by svp (Post 11292941)

star, i have registered here to to agree with you LOL

Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns (Post 11293265)

Honestly, sounds pretty awesome!

Originally Posted by McToryMug (Post 11295472)

EK only gave 4 percent when inflations creeping up to 10 but this is a one off. Next year they are anticipating above inflation pay rises they say.

Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11298091)

Mike with those sentiments you could possibly be the DCPB from Germany!

Originally Posted by Emma Royds (Post 11298235)

Wouldn't take much cash to impress that East German. Stasinomics! :E

Originally Posted by Mike Koal (Post 11297312)

People should be happy with 4 percent. that's a good pay rise compared to many places and the extra few dirhams will go a long way.

Originally Posted by svp (Post 11298230)

pilots with highest paid jobs here, yet they complain about a pay rise or not good salary.

where else would you get this much anyway? no where in Europe or us would you get this much

Originally Posted by svp (Post 11298230)

pilots with highest paid jobs here, yet they complain about a pay rise or not good salary.

where else would you get this much anyway? no where in Europe or us would you get this much

Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11292812)

yes they don’t like paying for older experienced pilots but they need us, why?

Many years ago, at one of the pilots meetings, we were told that EKs insurance premiums had dropped. EK was very happy! They also explained why.

Airlines have insurance, in some respects similar to car insurance.so aircraft age, number of aircraft, route structure, accident record, safety record, maintenance, hours flown etc all count towards premiums. Also a major factor is pilots ages and experience levels. Too many young, inexperienced pilots mean the premiums go up.

So while senior experienced captains may cost some money in reality they need a proportion of the flight crew to be older and more experienced to balance out the number of young, inexperienced Pilots coming through, in order to keep the insurance companies happy! Also it makes passengers a bit happier knowing there’s some experience on the flight deck?

(plus someone needs to make sure the young, I’ve been flying commercially for 2 years, I therefore know it all, facebook wonder, instagram pasting, Porsche/ Bentley / Ferrari driving (delete as necessary ), I think it’s normal to fly in fully reclined position with feet up because it’s cool, mobile phone hugging, I’m a sky god type actually remembers he’s got to do a job whilst on flight deck)
😀