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AbruzziPilot 11th Jan 2023 17:46


Originally Posted by Mike Koal (Post 11364335)
They are desperate, but its a safety critical role and they dont just take anybody who interviews. it's a selection process .

Wow Mike, thank you for your amazing reply, 15+ years in aviation and its my first time taking an assesment, thank you for teaching me how it works! Awesome job!

nimrodjoe 11th Jan 2023 18:48

You guys think they will tel you what’s going on? Emirates didn’t even tell their own staff if they were coming back whilst they recruited new ones. It’s the Middle East, get used to it. Stop moaning and be patient, you’ll need to be if you are coming here.

Nineshsimbers 11th Jan 2023 21:07

It’s very naive for anyone to believe that all EK pilots laid off during COVID19 would be called back. The airline has the luxury of choosing who to be called back. Everyone has a record at these kind of airlines. More likely than not, there’s a good reason why someone wasn’t recalled. It could be due to a below standard training record, troubles down route, problems on the line etc.

Airlines used this opportunity to get rid of people (who were a nuisance to the company), as brutal as it sounds. Objectively, it doesn’t sound like it was fair for all pilots laid off but we don’t always know the full story.

Even in the UK, look at BA. They didn’t call back everyone did they, under BALPAs watch? And they started external recruitment.

Emma Royds 11th Jan 2023 21:12


Originally Posted by AbruzziPilot (Post 11364278)
I've been reading a lot about this "desperate need of pilots" of Emirates.


But it's been 3 months that I've recorded the interview video, and not a single word since there...


Colleagues have been waiting months to have their applications processed for internal promotions, never mind external recruitment. I have said it many times and will repeat it again: HR has always been and is utterly disorganised. Now more than ever, given we still have 380s parked in storage that the airline could probably fill.

AbruzziPilot 11th Jan 2023 22:06


Originally Posted by Emma Royds (Post 11364495)
Colleagues have been waiting months to have their applications processed for internal promotions, never mind external recruitment. I have said it many times and will repeat it again: HR has always been and is utterly disorganised. Now more than ever, given we still have 380s parked in storage that the airline could probably fill.

Got it!
Thanks.

nimrodjoe 12th Jan 2023 05:31

Just don’t get cancer if you join! When’s Brian leaving ?

flyTheBigFatLady 12th Jan 2023 05:48


Originally Posted by Nineshsimbers (Post 11364486)
It’s very naive for anyone to believe that all EK pilots laid off during COVID19 would be called back. The airline has the luxury of choosing who to be called back. Everyone has a record at these kind of airlines. More likely than not, there’s a good reason why someone wasn’t recalled. It could be due to a below standard training record, troubles down route, problems on the line etc.

Airlines used this opportunity to get rid of people (who were a nuisance to the company), as brutal as it sounds. Objectively, it doesn’t sound like it was fair for all pilots laid off but we don’t always know the full story.

Even in the UK, look at BA. They didn’t call back everyone did they, under BALPAs watch? And they started external recruitment.

sounds like a good excuse to put the blame on the individual. So for you it’s ok that someone (or his/her family) needing a doctor within 10-20 years of living in Dubai to be not recalled.

appetently to your statement EK had more the 1000 bad apples which they needed to get rid of, telling me that recruiting has terribly failed

go or stay there you fit perfectly- wish you good luck never to get in the same position to be in the need of help in this region.

aviator2882 15th Jan 2023 19:29

EK FO Hiring
 
Hello Everyone.

I would like to know if EK is hiring FO’s now.
I had applied on their website six months ago but the application status still shows “Registration Under Review”

I have about 4200 hours total time.
2600 hours on Q400
1600 hours A320/321 (currently flying)

EC-KIY 16th Jan 2023 15:50

Applied in December, and from less than a month ago my application shows "shortlisted". Similar total time as you.


Originally Posted by aviator2882 (Post 11366960)
Hello Everyone.

I would like to know if EK is hiring FO’s now.
I had applied on their website six months ago but the application status still shows “Registration Under Review”

I have about 4200 hours total time.
2600 hours on Q400
1600 hours A320/321 (currently flying)


Full IFR 17th Jan 2023 10:07


Originally Posted by aviator2882 (Post 11366960)
Hello Everyone.

I would like to know if EK is hiring FO’s now.
I had applied on their website six months ago but the application status still shows “Registration Under Review”

I have about 4200 hours total time.
2600 hours on Q400
1600 hours A320/321 (currently flying)

Recently they changed the requirements, probably for this reason youre not contacted

To qualify for this opportunity, you will need a minimum of 2000 hours on Airbus FBW or modern Boeing type

EC-KIY 17th Jan 2023 22:04

Negative, as per their website this is what they require:

- Minimum of 2000 hours flying multi-engine, multi-crew, turboprop and/or jet aircraft with a MTOW ≥ 20T OR
- Minimum of 3000 hours flying multi-engine, multi-crew, turboprop and/or jet aircraft with a MTOW between 10T & 20T; simulator time cannot be accepted

Google for 210000JW and you will find this job position. Correct me if I am wrong.

beechbum 18th Jan 2023 03:41

EC-KIY

You're wrong! Take a look at the Emirates Group Careers Website and you'll find your answer. And I quote.....

"To qualify for this opportunity, you will need a minimum of 2000 hours on Airbus FBW or modern Boeing type"

Don't be too quick to pull the trigger...............

Shazeem 18th Jan 2023 09:54

They have indeed changed the requirements. It seems quite a few turboproppers are failing the initial training. Too bad because there are some good pilots out there. That they decided to stop lowering the reqs means they know they are balancing on the edge here. Experience levels have sunk(en) to the bottom. What to do?

flyTheBigFatLady 18th Jan 2023 11:14


Originally Posted by Shazeem (Post 11368769)
They have indeed changed the requirements. It seems quite a few turboproppers are failing the initial training. Too bad because there are some good pilots out there. That they decided to stop lowering the reqs means they know they are balancing on the edge here. Experience levels have sunk(en) to the bottom. What to do?

I would say that has nothing to do with turbopropers - some EK trainers are highly against turbopropers in the first place, therefore some don’t even have a chance to learn.
secondly EK does not have a training, and with low or nearly zero experience, as their is no real training, those pilots are meant to fail and that can happen to every inexperienced pilot with an ease no matter if he/she flew turbo prop or something else.
why is that the same pilot falling EK makes a career anywhere else.
still there are hundreds out there want to come back not being called. All of them have proofed they are capable to the „EK standards“ over years and years and now being reject over not fulfilling the requirements or did not get an answer to their rejoin application.
EK management is just simply complete of the rails, and caught in arrogance.

experience level have sunken because of Missmanagement, Missmanagements in the training department, and choosing the wrong people of being in charge of certain departments looking only after their own pocket getting filled as long it’s possible.
An A380 is just another airplane the individual can learn to fly and manage, not a miracle. The rest is experience you build over time.
each individual is only protecting him self being fired by AAR and his ridiculous management style, in the hope to be the next STC

Shazeem 18th Jan 2023 14:54


Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady (Post 11368812)
I would say that has nothing to do with turbopropers - some EK trainers are highly against turbopropers in the first place, therefore some don’t even have a chance to learn.
secondly EK does not have a training, and with low or nearly zero experience, as their is no real training, those pilots are meant to fail and that can happen to every inexperienced pilot with an ease no matter if he/she flew turbo prop or something else.
why is that the same pilot falling EK makes a career anywhere else.
still there are hundreds out there want to come back not being called. All of them have proofed they are capable to the „EK standards“ over years and years and now being reject over not fulfilling the requirements or did not get an answer to their rejoin application.
EK management is just simply complete of the rails, and caught in arrogance.

experience level have sunken because of Missmanagement, Missmanagements in the training department, and choosing the wrong people of being in charge of certain departments looking only after their own pocket getting filled as long it’s possible.
An A380 is just another airplane the individual can learn to fly and manage, not a miracle. The rest is experience you build over time.
each individual is only protecting him self being fired by AAR and his ridiculous management style, in the hope to be the next STC

I totally agree.
Must say that training seems a bit more relaxt. Maybe due to the pilot shortages..
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flyTheBigFatLady 18th Jan 2023 15:07


Originally Posted by Shazeem (Post 11368921)
I totally agree.
Must say that training seems a bit more relaxt. Maybe due to the pilot shortages..
​​​​

But syllabuses have not changed and the PAMs not either, the margin where it could be relaxed is rather limited. And with no experience exposed to a **** load of failure variation, my expectation to a new joiner is rather limited - nothing against the new joiner - where should they know from when they have no experience and no time to learned it.

my latest typrating I did was build on the fact it is a new Typ and made to fullfill the expectations at the end. A 180 degree approach to the training task.

flying79 19th Jan 2023 15:21

What a useless thread. Shouldnt this be about the assessment and NOT about why you shouldnt join Emirates?

flyTheBigFatLady 20th Jan 2023 06:46


Originally Posted by flying79 (Post 11369650)
What a useless thread. Shouldnt this be about the assessment and NOT about why you shouldnt join Emirates?

so when you are so confident that you fit into this outfit, why are you here.
EK is normal assessment as any other. 4-stages and that’s it. If you are so confident that is the right thing to do just go there pass the assessment and of you go.
getting in is no miracle, staying there and surviving is a complete other story.

PPRuNeUser0216 20th Jan 2023 15:40


Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady (Post 11369997)
so when you are so confident that you fit into this outfit, why are you here.
EK is normal assessment as any other. 4-stages and that’s it. If you are so confident that is the right thing to do just go there pass the assessment and of you go.
getting in is no miracle, staying there and surviving is a complete other story.

Funny how these baby faced Arabs join ek with about 26 hours and 2 bars and walk around like they are the big men! Somebody on one of these forums said mayden is great.....HAHAHAHAH best thing have read for ages, what a muppet! Whole place is a joke, not sure why anybody takes it seriously!

Bjornolf 21st Jan 2023 13:20

The topic of the title is "Emirates Application."


However, it has always been turned into "Why you shouldn't join Emirates" by people who used to work at Emirates, resigned or are currently working.


I think it is not right to talk behind the backs of some people from the administration by giving nationality and names here.


I see that even the new pilots who join the company are criticized.


It would be best if you did not forget that the people you criticize are your colleagues.


I believe that new applicants to Emirates are not satisfied with such off-topic and gossipy correspondence.


I wish every colleague a good weekend regardless of the flight time.


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