Ties Cut With Qatar
 

Gulf states, Egypt cut ties with Qatar | Daily Mail Online

Have they all closed their airspace to them as well or just airports?

Even the airspaces are closed. Qatar airways flights to Europe and india seem to be unaffected but Haven't seen flight to N America take off yet

I currently see outbound QTR traffic over Saudi and UAE

Not just Egypt now.........

Qatar: UAE, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain cut off relations with fellow Gulf state - CNN.com

Overflights are currently not affected.......but could obviously change.

....they're operating; LA en-route with others on the way shortly.

Oh we live in troubled times.

Qatar seems to be in big trouble for supporting terrorism.

Saudi Arabia-led Bloc Cuts Ties With Qatar Over 'Support to ISIS, Al-Qaeda' - News18 Although it has been known for some time that Qatar covertly supported terrorist/extremist groups it was hoped by the US and partners that the "close links" would allow diplomatic pressure to be placed and moderate the problems in this way. Unfortunately, recent barbaric events means that the administrations in the West have had little choice but to strengthen their alliances with other Arab nations leaving Qatar out in the cold. It is inevitable that aviation will be effected.. life jacket on..jumping ship PDQ! There's little point in living in Bahrain if you can't get to work..be interesting to see how Qatar reacts, maybe they will realise they have more to loose than gain by funding ISIS/Muslim Brotherhood, Although Qatar is a member of the US coalition against ISIS.. didn't we call these "double agents in WW2!" As Qatar uses Bahrain airspace lets see how this plays out..or not!

Airspace closure in 24 hours. Not good. ��

Yemen has joined in with the game now..........

Yemen cuts diplomatic ties with Qatar: state news agency | Reuters

Libya also... and all UAE carriers shut Doha service tomorrow.. exciting times ahead...

Out of curiousity, if Qatar Airways was prevented from transiting the Bahrain FIR, would they be able to make Tehran FIR just across the Gulf? I don't know if Doha Approach reaches all the way to Tehrans airspace.
By the way, the Maldives just broke diplomatic relations with Qatar.

Check out UAE NOTAMS there is one of interest starting at 0000Z on the 6th.

That could change....

a0812/17 - all acft registered in the state of qatar are not authorized to
overfly emirates fir,depart or land at uae aerodromes.

Operators not registered in uae intending to use emirates fir from
or to the state of qatar require prior approval from gcaa aviation
security affairs on the flw contact:
Tel: 00971 50 642 4911
email: Avsec-di(a)gcaa.gov.ae. 06 jun 00:00 2017 until perm. Created: 05 jun
08:37 2017

1a812/17
valid: 1706060000 - perm
all acft registered in the state of qatar are not authorized
to overfly emirates fir, depart or land at uae aerodromes.
Operators not registered in uae intending to use emirates fir from
or to the state of qatar require prior approval from gcaa aviation
security affairs on the flw contact:
Tel: 00971 50 642 4911
email: Avsec-di(a)gcaa.gov.ae

This is getting interesting.

If Bahrain follows the same....

That was my question. If Bahrain closes their FIR to Qatar Airways can they make it over to Tehran FIR by staying lower and in the Doha Approach airspace? If not they are boxed in.

looks like Bahrain follows with a small loop hole of a corridor into Tehran

The way I read that is aircraft registered in other countries can use those airways to reach DOH, all QR registered aircraft will not be allowed.

You might be right :ooh:

Saudi joins in
A0593/17

It's very complicated.

Qatar does not have its own FIR. The Airspace around Qatar is controlled by Doha Radar up to around FL 250. But this airspace does not extend to the Iranian FIR boundary. Consists of the Airspace above Qatar mainland and extends outwards from there to different ranges. When entering through UAE its directly to Doha or vice versa. Entering through Iran directly North of Qatar its a short stint with Bahrain then over to Doha. Technically speaking Qatar could create it's own FIR but that would take a long time.

So any flight leaving Qatar has to contact either Bahrain, UAE or Jeddah FIR. Technically I suppose Doha Radar could extend its range to the Border of Tehran FIR to the North. But then you would have a condition similar to that in the airspace between Cyprus and Turkey with two separate entities both claiming that they control that airspace.

Could get very interesting if Iran backs Qatar and closes it's airspace to those countries blocking Qatar ie UAE, SAUDI, BAHRAIN etc.
If you look at the FIR's, Qatar can't get to Iranian airspace without transiting Bahrain, BUT, that is because of the air services agreement in which OBBI handles the area. They could just suspend it and the OHHH FIR would border OIII.

EK and QR fallout....
 

Some might suggest this is what happens when you send your top cultural ambassador over the water to help out..... we all knew it would end in tears!

Well let's hope it doesn't escalate into a Saudi / Iran conflict.

The last time Iran fell out with a neighbour it lasted 8 years and cost 1,500,000 lives

So it looks like my holiday plans in 3 weeks time
from EDI to COL are going down the tubes ?

Hhm, Mr Trump's vist to Saudi Arabia last week, coincidence?

Question?
 

So are we witnessing beginnings of SCATANA?

This might be a welcome relief for our overworked sectors. If this all pans out the way I hope it does, we might lose around 10% of our traffic and our worst sectors might become manageable again, if only for a short season.

I'm sure they could send him back to 'help out'.

As does Egypt
A0202/17

11000 US troops in Qatar! Talk about suddenly having your enemy based in your backyard!
If this situation continues in a "stable" manner, this will benefit EK and EY greatly.
The question is whether the travelers will avoid the ME completely.

If it gets a lot worse, all will suffer.

ME will be the start of WW III.

No, not enough outside interest. War has been the normal situation in ME since forever.

Uncle Donald was in Saudi Arabia recently and sold equipment for$$$$$, so the Saudis are the good guys! His aim would be to go after Iran as mentioned during his election campaign. But if you cannot go after the master so you kick his dog, which is Quatar. Let's see what happens next, this is just the beginning........lots of pilots jobs will be lost.....and and and.....

So it's all starting here in the ME but does this mean the other countries will follow suite?

Now they all know Qatar have been supporting terrorism will they all ban them from flying to their airport and using their airspace? If not does it mean they condone what they do?

Interesting times for Qatar airways.

This has been common knowledge since the "Arab Spring".
But it has only escalated since Trump visited Saudi Arabia.

Which in itself is kinda strange, don't you think?
His very first foreign visit after taking office was not to a major ally, such as UK/Germany/NATO, but to Saudi Arabia.
The Europe visit followed.