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gearlever 5th Jun 2017 14:01


The hijackers in the September 11 attacks were 19 men affiliated with al-Qaeda. Fifteen of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia, and the others were from the United Arab Emirates (2), Egypt, and Lebanon.[1] The hijackers were organized into four teams, each led by a pilot-trained hijacker with three or four "muscle hijackers," who were trained to help subdue the pilots, passengers, and crew.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijack...ber_11_attacks

Well, but the Saudis recently bought weapons for 110 billions, who cares about 9/11 ?

ExDubai 5th Jun 2017 14:17


Originally Posted by gearlever (Post 9793287)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijack...ber_11_attacks

Well, but the Saudis recently bought weapons for 110 billions, who cares about 9/11 ?

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

ironbutt57 5th Jun 2017 14:22

hate to disrupt you anti-Trump parade, but these issues have been festering behind the scenes long before Trump was elected, or even ran for president...

justforfun 5th Jun 2017 14:23


Originally Posted by ironbutt57 (Post 9793315)
hate to disrupt you anti-Trump parade, but these issues have been festering behind the scenes long before Trump was elected, or even ran for president...

Well said!

ironbutt57 5th Jun 2017 14:28

luvlyjubbly is on many forums blaming Trump for everything from arab spring to the hiroshima bombing

Jet II 5th Jun 2017 14:55

What are EK going to do with their 380's now? :eek:

ironbutt57 5th Jun 2017 15:09

What are EK going to do with their 380's now

guess they will be going everywhere else except Doha

minwas 5th Jun 2017 15:20


Originally Posted by luvly jubbly (Post 9793204)
Well let's hope it doesn't escalate into a Saudi / Iran conflict.

The last time Iran fell out with a neighbour it lasted 8 years and cost 1,500,000 lives

Then Saudi shouldn't do the same mistake as Irak did and attack Iran

ironbutt57 5th Jun 2017 15:24

nobody is going to attack anybody....

minwas 5th Jun 2017 15:33

Of course no one should do something stupid like this

luvly jubbly 5th Jun 2017 15:55


Originally Posted by ironbutt57 (Post 9793326)
luvlyjubbly is on many forums blaming Trump for everything from arab spring to the hiroshima bombing

Oh My God. I must be a bad man. Actually, im in 2 threads Asking if it's coincidence that this happened immediately after Trump visited the region.

But as you showed up late for 2 World Wars, I suppose it's only fair that you start the next one.

Hiroshima was down to a different US President.

Anyway, 3 days before this kicked off I posted this link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qata...ates_relations explaining how it's been simmering for years.

White Knight 5th Jun 2017 16:01

And all the muppets who have been banging on recently about how QR is a much better choice of employer than EK or EY. Good call🙄🙄🙄

Joker11 5th Jun 2017 16:14

This is really a case of Arab nations calling the kettle black. Accusing each other exactly of the same things they have done themselves.

gearlever 5th Jun 2017 16:18


Originally Posted by Joker11 (Post 9793452)
This is really a case of Arab nations calling the kettle black. Accusing each other exactly of the same things they have done themselves.


SPOT ON Joker11:D

johnjonesnine 5th Jun 2017 16:30


Originally Posted by luvly jubbly (Post 9793204)
Well let's hope it doesn't escalate into a Saudi / Iran conflict.

The last time Iran fell out with a neighbour it lasted 8 years and cost 1,500,000 lives

In these of fake news it is important to point out that the Islamic Republic of Iran has never attacked any of its neighbours. The conflict you refer to was started by Saddam Hussein.

FoxForce44 5th Jun 2017 16:31


Originally Posted by White Knight (Post 9793434)
And all the muppets who have been banging on recently about how QR is a much better choice of employer than EK or EY. Good call🙄🙄🙄

So now it's a competition?"My job is better than yours?" Geezz...

wizard1 5th Jun 2017 16:44

I feel very uncomfortable with this development and can only see further escalation and deterioration of the situation.
Let's think it through. In no particular order. If Quatar (sorry spelling) is essentially grounded then there go EK EY Iranian overflight clearance.
How does that alone play out well for anybody?
Escalation of Iran / Saudi proxy wars on all fronts, Obviously the Big Dog (DT) has waved the stick but I doubt the protagonists are going to go down without a fight,
Tourism into the UAE!! Yea right
Real Estate investment in the region!! Same as above
International funds for infrastructure development !!! As if.
Relocate all movable assets now. Attend to licence issues.
Be prepared.

gearlever 5th Jun 2017 16:47


Originally Posted by wizard1 (Post 9793491)
I feel very uncomfortable with this development and can only see further escalation and deterioration of the situation.
Let's think it through. In no particular order. If Quatar (sorry spelling) is essentially grounded then there go EK EY Iranian overflight clearance.
How does that alone play out well for anybody?
Escalation of Iran / Saudi proxy wars on all fronts, Obviously the Big Dog (DT) has waved the stick but I doubt the protagonists are going to go down without a fight,
Tourism into the UAE!! Yea right
Real Estate investment in the region!! Same as above
International funds for infrastructure development !!! As if.
Relocate all movable assets now. Attend to licence issues.
Be prepared.

Yeah, can of worms....

maples 5th Jun 2017 17:09

QR website offline
 
No joy on QR website,you guys had better luck?

Twiglet1 5th Jun 2017 17:47

Need to send Boris Johnson and Mr Trump to fix it

The Turtle 5th Jun 2017 20:31

working fine in the USA....advertising a "fare sale" RT from JFK to BKK....

745 usd inclusive!!!

the dirty sensor 5th Jun 2017 20:34

[QUOTE=Xiamen;9793258]11000 US troops in Qatar! Talk about suddenly having your enemy based in your backyard!
If this situation continues in a "stable" manner, this will benefit EK and EY greatly.
The question is whether the travelers will avoid the ME completely.

Well hopefully Qatar sorts itself out cuz parking issues will be horrible at the World Cup with all the roads riddled with mortar holes! FIFA will not be pleased.😉

harry the cod 6th Jun 2017 04:41

ADFUS

Ever heard of Noraid?

Funny how so many Americans fail to remember how prevalent their fundraising was along the Eastern Seaboard of the United States throughout the eighties. Funds that supported The Provisional IRA, a terrorist group that killed and maimed hundreds of innocent civilians during the conflict, both in Ireland and in mainland Britain.

Support was reduced significantly after 9/11. I guess the Yanks suddenly realised that it wasn't very nice to have terrorist attacking them too!

Careful before pointing fingers.

Harry

fliion 6th Jun 2017 05:10


Originally Posted by White Knight (Post 9793434)
And all the muppets who have been banging on recently about how QR is a much better choice of employer than EK or EY. Good call🙄🙄🙄

Indeed Whitey - I always found it interesting how in recent years you would rarely have current QR pilots on here calling their mgt to task for misdemeanors similar to EK & FZ pilots. No complaints ? Really? Hard to believe with the combover king.

So now they must be in turmoil over there at DOH and no QR pilots on here spelling out what the word is from flight ops in QR -

What gives boys - all good in da hood as usual?

Farrell 6th Jun 2017 05:12

QTR871 PVG-DOH has stopped here in MCT to refuel?….and raid Carrefour for Saudi milk! :)
Sorry about photo quality as the view from my ivory tower is not great on iPhone.

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p...psztjkbse0.jpg

Aluminium shuffler 6th Jun 2017 05:15

Spot on Harry, but you know the rules - it's only bad when it's not the US doing it. :hmm: I remember seeing USAF personnel in the UK with medals and ribbons for serving in a "war zone", which is how they classified the UK. A "war" that they funded.

shorthauler72 6th Jun 2017 06:07

QR still operating?
 
Dear forum members, with Bahrain FIR extending all over Qatar territory, how comes QR airplanes still seem to able to get in and out?

Holger

Jetjock330 6th Jun 2017 06:25

Mauritius and Maldives join the support of the Saudis and cut ties with Qatar as well now.

"
One more nation, Mauritius, has severed diplomatic relations with Qatar, following seven other nations, Khaleej Times reported on Monday.
As of now, a total of eight countries have cut ties with Qatar, namely Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Egypt, Yemen, Mauritius, Libya and Maldives.
UAE’s Emirates News Agency said that the UAE has severed all relations with Qatar, giving Qatari diplomats 48 hours to leave the UAE.
Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, and Bahrain said they will suspend air, sea and land transport with Qatar amid the diplomatic row, Doha-based Al Jazeera media reported on Monday.
Meanwhile, major airlines have reportedly suspended travel to and from Qatar. Qatar Airways said it has stopped flights to Saudi Arabia, starting at noon on Monday. Dubai's Emirates and Abu Dhabi's Etihad Airways will suspend all flights to and from Doha, starting Tuesday morning. " end quote

Eric Janson 6th Jun 2017 06:25

This is allegedly what triggered these events:-

http://http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-05/shocking-trigger-behind-todays-gulf-scandal-qatar-paid-al-qaeda-iran-1bn-hostage-dea

Chrome 6th Jun 2017 06:26

shorthauler72 maybe this?


OBBB FIR NOTAM A0208/17 - FOR FLIGHTS AFFECTED BY NOTAM A0205/17 THE FOLLOWING AWYS ARE AVBL: 1-UT430 OUTBOUND VIA RAGAS 2-UR659 INBOUND VIA MIDSI. 06 JUN 00:00 2017 UNTIL PERM. CREATED: 05 JUN 12:00 2017

shorthauler72 6th Jun 2017 06:36


Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 9794055)
shorthauler72 maybe this?

Obviously, thanks!

halas 6th Jun 2017 07:12

Mean while in Tel Aviv…. they must be watching through the venetian blinds having a bit of a giggle at what the neighbours are up to…again.

halas

Tankengine 6th Jun 2017 07:29


Originally Posted by shorthauler72 (Post 9794037)
Dear forum members, with Bahrain FIR extending all over Qatar territory, how comes QR airplanes still seem to able to get in and out?

Holger

Mirages? Of course then Bahrian could send F16s. ;)

TOGA! 6th Jun 2017 09:41


Originally Posted by Aluminium shuffler (Post 9794004)
Spot on Harry, but you know the rules - it's only bad when it's not the US doing it. :hmm: I remember seeing USAF personnel in the UK with medals and ribbons for serving in a "war zone", which is how they classified the UK. A "war" that they funded.


AS

please explain in greater detail where and when you saw USAF personnel wearing ribbons and medals for action while in the UK?

I only recall US personnel stationed in the UK to help protect against the Soviet Union and definitely do not recall them being involved in any actions against any other force.

The only reference to US troops in action in the UK I can find are those that helped out with the German problem in the early 1940's.

There seem to be many here with chips on their shoulder about Americans and not only from those associated with this forum. I have seen it/read it and experienced it here. Say/think what you may, but you were liking us 77-79 years ago. Ever been to Cambridge Cemetery?

olster 6th Jun 2017 10:24

Well said, TOGA.

fantom 6th Jun 2017 10:42

Well, the UK-based Aardvarks flew the long way round to bomb Tripoli.

Talparc 6th Jun 2017 10:42

Wait till they discover that the UAE is also supporting various terror groups, then we can talk about grid lock.
The UAE has promoted such a double standard for a very long time.

recceguy 6th Jun 2017 11:29


Originally Posted by TOGA! (Post 9794224)
Say/think what you may, but you were liking us 77-79 years ago.

No, we didn't like you.
They came because it was part of their agenda, and they liberated a couple of countries simply because it was on their way.
Just quote the number of French, Dutch and Belgian civilians killed by allied bombings - higher numbers than those victims of Germans ...
Soviet Union did much more to bring down Nazi Germany. Only that it's now convenient to forget it.

harry the cod 6th Jun 2017 13:20

ADFUS

I have no idea where you're from, I do not care. My point was to merely highlight the irony of your statement blaming only the UAE and Saudia for supporting terrorism. It's often forgotten that the major protagonist in the fight against terrorism is also a former supporter of the very principles it despises. Only when the US mainland became a target did it's 'protected citizens' take a less jaundiced view to the British occupation of Northern Ireland and their often blind support for a terror organisation that was killing innocent people in the name of freedom! My point being that until the US itself became a victim of terrorism, there may not have been a shift in attitude away from IRA support. Fundraising had been significant up until then and it's subsequent reduction was certainly a catalyst in the cessation of the conflict. It's just such a shame that it took a monumental event such as 9/11 for the government and it's people to grasp that everyone is vulnerable.

This should not become an anti US forum. Many hundreds of thousands of lives, on both sides of the pond, have been lost in major conflicts over this last century. Tit for tat spats on this forum achieves nothing other than highlighting our own ignorance and immaturity. More importantly, it disrespects those that have given their lives in the name of achieving real freedom.

Perhaps we need to reflect on who the real enemy is here?

Harry

AAG1 6th Jun 2017 13:30

What has the midget leader of the airline "The Baker", has to say now? I wonder how come he hasn't slam people from neighborhood countries as he did to people from the West?

ohhh, I got it, he knows the one who would get hanged to the wall would be him, not Delta's former CEO!!

What a clown this midget is!! I guess he should man up now and start begging for some airspace


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