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Jolly Foreigner 12th Mar 2016 07:42

Yep, my chief stamped and signed my log book when I was on my way out last summer, no problems and a friendly chat too; no invite for a Costa though.

:ok:

typhoonpilot 12th Mar 2016 12:18

Easier to get a single page print out signed and stamped by the Fleet Manager. Shows dates of employment and when you upgraded as well.

Of course mine was done before the mass exodus so YMMV.


TP

bittersweetheart 12th Mar 2016 19:32

Mine stamped and signed earlier this spring. No questions asked. No problems whatsoever having the printout or logbook done. You can even have a personal letter printed and stamped which shows your dates and hours.

Versace 23rd Mar 2016 00:06

Resignation tip: Police Check before leaving the UAE
 
Hi All,

Most may already know this... .

When resigning from EK and leaving Dubai make sure you get a current police check before leaving the UAE.

I've Moved back to Australia and in the process of flying for QF, trying to get a police check here for living in the UAE is a complete nightmare... looking at 1-2 months of getting it. Is it like this anywhere else?

SONNY731 25th Mar 2016 15:44

Anyone know how long it takes to receive the money from the provident fund if you ask for it to be sent direct to your bank account? Does it come after your last day of service? Thanks.

SONNY731 25th Mar 2016 15:48

In respect of the police 'Good Conduct Certificate' - I went to Port Rashid police station. Copy of passport, residence visa, UAE ID, two passport photos and 220AED. Place is empty - it took 5 minutes. Picked it up two days later. No problems.

de facto 25th Mar 2016 16:10

I thought the standard was to leave the car running at the airport terminal and just go...or best,to operate back home and never come back...or things have improved ?

altocu 9th Apr 2016 10:54

Can anyone who has left recently confirm if and how many days off were blocked off on your roster prior to your last day?

I've asked this of the relevant people but am awaiting a response..

Cheers.

SOPS 9th Apr 2016 11:23

I'm pretty sure it was 3 days.

Mr Good Cat 9th Apr 2016 16:28

It is 3 working days.

But bear in mind that if your 3rd day is on a Thursday its realistically only 2.5 Days for obvious reasons. And if anyone screws up your leaving process there's nothing to be done after midday Thursday... I would opt to stay in Dubai for a further 3 days if you can before they book you out on the repatriation ticket.

Imagine if there's a dispute on the final paycheque amount?

Rotaiva 9th Apr 2016 21:48

I had 5 days blocked off but 2 were a Friday & Saturday. That was Dec 2015

GoreTex 10th Apr 2016 03:11

I have 3 blocked, "last day in office" is the 28th, last day of employment is the 31st

JNPS 10th Apr 2016 14:12

Which day would you expect the financial settlement to occur?

altocu 11th Apr 2016 07:33

Thanks for the responses.

Odins Raven 11th Apr 2016 13:49


Originally Posted by JNPS (Post 9339519)
Which day would you expect the financial settlement to occur?

The financial settlement is on the last day. As pointed out - make sure that's not the day before your repat flight is booked. If they get your settlement wrong on a Thursday you may be stuffed if you leave town for the final time that weekend...

Having said that, no mistakes were made with my final pay. And the retention of 4000 dhs was paid into my nominated bank account 8 weeks later with no issues.

Things seem to be going downhill rapidly there since I left though. Not sure if there's any way to stop the rot OR if there is any intention of stopping the rot. Shame.

Best of luck, hope not too many are affected by the house upheavals :-(

InnocentBystander 11th Apr 2016 19:55

Leave balance and resignation
 
I'd appreciate any recent experience in using leave balance to shorten the notice period. I've got over 60 days of leave balance and wanted to use these to shorten my notice period from three months to four weeks. Will HR approve this? Or will they force you to get it paid out because they're short of crew?

Dropp the Pilot 11th Apr 2016 20:17

The financial settlement is on the last day.
 
Eh? So if one is relatively senior they pass you a cheque for several million dirhams and then kick you out of the country 24 hours later? It takes a day or two for that cheque to clear and several days for it to be wire-transferred from your UAE "bank" to the real world. Are you seriously suggesting you are happy to skip town with that movement still in process?

I am quite accustomed to being treated contempuously while working here - I was kind of hoping that would stop once I resigned.

Avid Aviator 11th Apr 2016 20:39

What's even worse is that on the final day you must sign a form stating that EK have paid you all money they owe you. Which they haven't of course, because that will come later. But you are required to sign the letter to say you've received it, or else you get zip.

Seems that the money usually turns up, but it's 100% trust....:hmm:

JNPS 12th Apr 2016 04:47

AA,
I find that hard to believe. None of my colleagues have mentioned this form and I know most would not have signed it in advance. I can't see a stalemate where one refuses to sign said form and company refuses to pay until signed. ( unless you're referring to the withholding amount).

Odins Raven 12th Apr 2016 07:56


Originally Posted by InnocentBystander (Post 9340916)
I'd appreciate any recent experience in using leave balance to shorten the notice period. I've got over 60 days of leave balance and wanted to use these to shorten my notice period from three months to four weeks. Will HR approve this? Or will they force you to get it paid out because they're short of crew?

No chance I'm afraid... I suggested the idea and it wasn't entertained.

They do pay your balance out in the final paychecque though.

Odins Raven 12th Apr 2016 08:04


Originally Posted by Dropp the Pilot (Post 9340952)
Eh? So if one is relatively senior they pass you a cheque for several million dirhams and then kick you out of the country 24 hours later? It takes a day or two for that cheque to clear and several days for it to be wire-transferred from your UAE "bank" to the real world. Are you seriously suggesting you are happy to skip town with that movement still in process?

I am quite accustomed to being treated contempuously while working here - I was kind of hoping that would stop once I resigned.

There IS a form which you sign on day one of the three days in the ESC.. you agree to the settlement amount (whether you like it or not!) and then you finalize all your releases with each department such as accommodation, uniforms, ID returns etc... only then will you get your magical exit checque.

You can cash it immediately downstairs in NBD. Then transfer it to your chosen account across the lobby at the exchange place.

Alternatively you can request EK to transfer it to your bank acct but you have to leave it in their trust as it won't arrive until you are well away from Dubai.

I went with the former and had no problems with the transfer from the exchange guys. It even arrived before my flight the next evening. Felt a bit weird walking across the EGHQ lobby with 30k USD in my backpack though...! (All the unused leave they had to pay me!)

Odins Raven 12th Apr 2016 08:08

Also, in addition the provident fund arrived after 4 weeks in my USD EXPAT account in Jersey.

Your provident is handled and kept in the isle of man so EK can't mess with that one... just make sure your account details are correct as there's a big admin fee to correct it if you screw up!

DROPP - I think you may be confused assuming you have to collect your provident on the last day. Just let the provident company in the IOM handle the transfer - don't even think of carrying that cash across the lobby!

Dropp the Pilot 12th Apr 2016 08:44

You can cash it immediately downstairs in NBD. Then transfer it to your chosen accoun
 
This won't work for 3,600,000 dirhams. I don't have that many suitcases.

Dropp the Pilot 12th Apr 2016 08:46

Just let the provident company in the IOM handle the transfer - don't even think of c
 
This won't work for people from certain blighted nations whose tax authorities will consider the provident fund disbursment as income if it arrives in one's home country after leaving Dubai.

The bill in my case would be 1,700,000 dirhams.

1201alarm 12th Apr 2016 09:52

EK Resignation Tips
 
To actually DO it. :}

Rosso Noche 19th Apr 2016 06:46

Does anyone know what the story is if you use your ALT in the months before you resign but you don't have the full year of service associated with it?

Ie. Qualified for this years ALT in February 2016. Last day is in June 2016.
You used your ALT once you qualified for it in February.

Do they recoup any of the ticket amount (pro-rata) as you weren't here for the whole year?

Does it impact you getting your repatriation ticket or can you use both without any extra costs?

Cheers, Rosso

Buford 19th Apr 2016 12:02

If working towards a 'planned exit' from EK, when is the best time to hand in your resignation with the 3 month notice so as not to get done for school fees i.e. you get your full amount for the year paid out without having any recouped pro-rata? Don't they pro-rate them through August?

Buford 19th Apr 2016 12:04

Rosso, what date in February? I think I saw somewhere they would recoup it if you'd used it six months into the year, but I could be wrong.

DCS99 19th Apr 2016 17:06

@Bulford

They do pro-rate through August.
Even though School finishes 2 months earlier.
Yeah I know - I couldn't believe it either.
Source: a friend whose leaving day was 30th June.

I believe 1st June resignation fixes that for you.
Enjoy your last flight - a night-turn to the Subcontinent will be rostered automatically .-)

CAT3A 19th Apr 2016 17:54

I have the same question as Rosso, anybody with more info on ALTs if you are planning to be gone by August

Uplink 19th Apr 2016 20:29

So here is a question...

A colleague of mine mentioned this yesterday to me and it got me thinking. I can't find the answer...

What happens if you resign a month before your 15th year is complete, do you still get the tickets for life? Is it like the bonus and you still get this even whilst on notice period?

I have been looking in the employment regs at continuous service and trying to find an answer

BYMONEK 19th Apr 2016 20:55

Uplink

Send an email to fleet admin or better still, next time you're in HQ call in and ask someone.

I've been into Flight Ops 3 times within the last few weeks and on every occasion, the lovely local ladies are normally either stood around chatting to each other, staring into their phones or just smiling nicely at you whilst drinking coffee at their paraphernalia filled desks. Not having enough time to help shouldn't be a factor!

Good luck! :hmm:

Uplink 20th Apr 2016 05:46

BYMONEK

You have been to Flight Ops 3 times in a week...why would you do that unless you have been a naughty boy..or the mother in law is in town?

BYMONEK 20th Apr 2016 10:50

.....Or both! One actual visit was to see why a claim for a shortage in down route allowances was taking near on 6 months and 5 email requests, non of which were being answered. RB is the gentleman involved in the refund process and can often be seen 'wondering' around looking busy but actually doing cock all! He NEVER answers emails. It normally has to be stepped up past him, admin and then to a manager before anything gets done. I'm sorry but WTF??!!!

Funny, when you owe THEM money, it's out of you salary that month!

Odins Raven 20th Apr 2016 11:13

My patience and tolerance levels were so short by the time I was in my last few months - I realized it was less stressful to write some things off rather than spend endless days in EGHQ getting strssed and frustrated with it all.

Dropp the Pilot 26th Apr 2016 17:00

Clearances
 
So it is understood that Emirates will need you to clear all the guarantees they have in their system before your release. That seems pretty straightforward.

Did anyone who has resigned looked further than that to avoid any unpleasantness at the airport on the day of departure? By this I mean is it possible some long-forgotten business arrangement or credit card could be hanging in the background and associated with one's residence visa such that when one went to leave you were held back?

If one wished to display an excess of caution is there a method to check such a thing before the actual day of leaving?

Rosso Noche 26th Apr 2016 17:45


Originally Posted by Buford (Post 9349182)
Rosso, what date in February? I think I saw somewhere they would recoup it if you'd used it six months into the year, but I could be wrong.

Hi Buford,

Sorry for the delayed response. No prizes for guessing why I was busy. 🛫🛬🛫🛬🛫🛬🛫🛬

It will only be 4 months into the ALT year when I leave so definitely less than the 6 months you mentioned. I still can't find any reference in the manuals.

Advice from someone else's experience would be appreciated or a reference if someone has one.

Cheers Rosso.

Mr Good Cat 26th Apr 2016 19:37


Originally Posted by Dropp the Pilot (Post 9356968)
So it is understood that Emirates will need you to clear all the guarantees they have in their system before your release. That seems pretty straightforward.

Did anyone who has resigned looked further than that to avoid any unpleasantness at the airport on the day of departure? By this I mean is it possible some long-forgotten business arrangement or credit card could be hanging in the background and associated with one's residence visa such that when one went to leave you were held back?

If one wished to display an excess of caution is there a method to check such a thing before the actual day of leaving?

Amazingly you don't actually have to close your bank account or credit card account before you leave Dubai. I even know someone who has kept their account open.

I also know one guy who forgot to cancel his internet before he left and had to send money via western union to an emirati guy to make sure his small debt was cleared.

I guess the only obstacle would be if you were trying to escape and someone had reported you to the police for owing them money. If that was the case they would have already got you by now...

Desertweasel 26th Apr 2016 21:35

I have kept a DXB account open and even had a credit card for the first 4 months, HSBC wanted my credit card cancelled but were fine with leaving the account open. The EK Citi card was never linked to my salary so we just paid into it to keep a positive balance, was very useful while we were trying to set up in new country for car hire etc where a debit does not cut the mustard and we waited for local banks to issue cards.

RonBurgundySD 28th Apr 2016 19:49

Hi All,

I'm on my way out as well (still got 80-something days to go). Thanks to everyone for the great info on this thread. Here are some answers I've been able to gather over the last few days:

(For every question I had, I sent an email to [email protected] and they got back to me in less than a day with either an answer or a reference for where I could go to get it)

- I asked the ALT question and the exact response was: "Kindly note that you may use any annual leave ticket that is already credited under your account without any charges."

- In order to found out how much you may or may not owe for Education Allowances ask: [email protected])

- Leaving before the 90-day period: they said it is apparently possible, but you need to obtain authorization from your department manager (I'm sure we know how that exchange will go, but it's worth a try if you need to get out sooner).

- I went to visit the Etisalat people at the Dubai Mall today and they said they can switch my postpaid mobile phone line to prepaid within 4 hours (no need to switch the number to Du and go prepaid with them). Canceling your home internet account will take 3-4 working days so you should try to do it that many days before the end of any given calendar month in order to avoid the issues people have had with their final bill. He didn't know what I was talking about when I asked about a letter for clearing the guarantee with EK, but I plan to ask the Etisalat people at HQ since I'm sure they must have dealt with it before (anyone else got any advice/info about that?).

- I bank with HSBC and I saw a guy there at the Dubai Mall as well: pay off your credit cards and once the balance is zero you can close it (he said no need to keep any sort of minimum balance in your current account), then just use your debit card until a few days before leaving. Once you're ready to close the current account, transfer out or withdraw any remaining balance, go into any customer service center, make the request to close, and they can give you a "No Liability Letter" that you take to HR to clear the bank guarantee with EK.

- For handing in your resignation, send an email to your respective fleet Chief Pilot.

Hope this helps. Best of luck to everyone!



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