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OnceBitten 20th Dec 2015 01:37

Just cashed my cheque the other day at NDB HQ without an account, it was no problem. They won't money transfer for you though unless you have an open account but their cross rates are poor anyway so it's not worth transferring with them. I headed off to Al sari at midriff and transferred the cash. Just make sure if you do this though you take passport and a copy of your end of service letter and the receipt of the cashed cheque or they won't transfer for you as you are now a non resident. That is also the trap of closing your NDB account after you have your residency visa cancelled, the bank require a copy of your visa and a copy of your uae id to close the account so keep copies of everything.

Flyby2013,
In regards to moving allowance, it's in the staff travel manual as you would expect :rolleyes: but I think from memory the first bracket is from 3-5 years service to be eligible for freight allowance..

Toledo 20th Dec 2015 07:39

Thanks for the info FuelFlow.

So, they pay you your monthly basic salary / 30 per day of leave (or your annual basic salary / 365)? That is nowhere near enough compensation for leave which they have denied.

We do not work 30 days per month or 365 days per year. We are required to have 24 days off in any consecutive 84 days. That equates to 2 days a week or 104 days per year. Our contractual leave is 42 days or 6 weeks, so that would remove another 30 working days. That leaves 231 days per year on which we are available to work. So the absolute minimum rate at which you should be compensated for denied leave should be annual basic / 231. Anything less is a complete rip off.

However, when you take leave during employment you receive more than just basic pay. The Employee Regs Manual states that "Payment during annual leave is credited at gross monthly salary i.e. basic pay plus all allowances." The biggest allowance is housing allowance. When you take leave you are paid basic plus housing (whether you take the allowance or not) plus education. Why would you settle for significantly less when you resign?

For these reasons, I will be taking all of my leave on resignation.

Rotaiva 8th Jan 2016 23:16

Receipt of Provident Fund
 
For information; gone now (from EK and the ME) for less than 3 weeks.

I opted for the direct transfer of my provident fund to my nominated overseas account - it just turned up there! In other words I think 3 weeks seems to be the norm.

DuneMentat 9th Jan 2016 03:36

Seaman Staynes It is written on the license verification letter which you can apply for here: www.gcaa.gov.ae > E-Services > Verification Letter.

http://i.imgur.com/ZsWNrKD.jpg

it will say something along the lines of:

Our records show no licensing action or involvement in any incident/accident concerning the above
mentioned license holder.

CanadaKid 14th Jan 2016 15:43

Pension scheme transfers
 
I received a suggestion from a colleague to transfer my pension after have left the company.
Reason being that any transfers back to Dubai incur a 1% fee in addition to the forex charges from your fund currency to dirhams and again to whatever currency you have in your transfer account.
As it turns out it's been a month of emails and telephone calls to the managing company in the Isle of Man with very slow progress. Apparently once you have left the premises, the Know Your Client rules kick in and you have to start from scratch.
Better to transfer direct to your home country while still an employee, methinks.

CK

Dropp the Pilot 15th Jan 2016 12:54

Resignation letter addressed to whom?
 
Can someone who has done this recently please elaborate. When mine goes in I want to be gone 90 days later - not 93 because I formatted the thing wrong or sent it to the wrong person.

Dropp the Pilot 16th Jan 2016 07:34

Does leave taken during notice period extend your notice period?
 
Anyone with experience of this?

That's what this cut and paste looks like i.e. if you take 10 days vacation during your notice period, your notice period becomes 100 days instead of 90.


"An employee may request to take outstanding annual leave during the notice period. If such a request is approved by their line manager, then the notice period will be offset by the approved period of annual leave."

CanadaKid 16th Jan 2016 14:19

DtP

I took my planned 21 days during my 90 day notice and it made no difference to my exit date. I had given my leaving date in my notice email, which was eventually acknowledged.

CK

innersole 1st Feb 2016 07:24

GCAA Licence
 
Hi Guys,

don't get behind with the 3 months of madness during resignation! The 100 hour rosters don't help...

Sorry that it's been mentioned before, but I can't find the reference to the GCAA licence. It was mentioned that EK demand the card back or it's a AED500 penalty, but someone mentioned that you can get a replacement at CAA for a lot less. Any advice please!

Also, I don't remember ever being given one of those SOS contact detail cards with the EK logo on it, but I believe they are also on the standard AED500 penalty sheet.... CC Service Centre near the old mailboxes gave me one with a smile.

SOPS 1st Feb 2016 07:41

No one ever asked for my licence back, and I did not get 500 dit fine for keeping it either.

Kapitanleutnant 1st Feb 2016 09:50

Same here.... Never asked for it nor the drivers license back. No penalty. .

White Knight 1st Feb 2016 19:09

If you're talking Drivers Licence Kapitan that has nothing to do with EK... Drivers as in automobiles that is!

Kapitanleutnant 2nd Feb 2016 03:42

WK...

I had heard during my out processing the DL and ATP were in some cases, requested back. BOTH are government documents, not EK documents. Was clarifying for the poster my experience with those two items. I was able to keep both as neither were asked for prior to leaving.

Kap

White Knight 2nd Feb 2016 06:15

The difference though is that you have paid for the DL and EK pays for the ATPL... Even if they are both issued by government departments Likewise the ID card is paid for by us, not the company...

Dropp the Pilot 2nd Feb 2016 10:45

Events of the last few days of employment
 
I think I asked this before but I can't dig it up at the moment.

If you elect to take the dirham cheque as Provident settlement, do you receive that cheque at least a few days before your residence visa is cancelled? I would imagine that having a large-ish cheque in hand but no residence visa could lead to complications with wiring the money outbound or banking operations in general.

SOPS 2nd Feb 2016 10:54

You get it on your last day, Dropp. I had set up an account at home ( with some trouble, but possible), that I deposited it into when I got home. Cheque was cleared in under 2 weeks. Then converted to local currency at my lesuire.

See if you can set up a foreign currency account with your bank. You have to find someone who knows what they are talking about, the first answer will be....cannot. But that's not true, at least in Australia.

OnceBitten 7th Feb 2016 07:58

How long has everyone been waiting to get their retention money from EK? :ugh:

Odins Raven 7th Feb 2016 19:51


Originally Posted by OnceBitten (Post 9262030)
How long has everyone been waiting to get their retention money from EK? :ugh:

Mine came into the UK bank account within the 8 weeks as promised.

In case anyone wants to know - been gone 4 months now and absolutely no regrets. Earning a little less but so much happier and healthier. However, I was fotunate enough to get my home base which makes a huge difference.

And I was never good at the long-haul lifestyle so working daytime only suits me so much better. Even if I am flying more sectors overall.

The family is infinitely more happy which is the main point for me...

Neptune Spear 7th Feb 2016 21:04

Odnis I concur with your postings 100%. The life outside of Emirates is so much better I wish I could have left earlier. What a difference a real airline makes.

Dropp the Pilot 15th Feb 2016 11:39

Annual leave tickets in the year of departure
 
How does this work? Suppose you utilise your ALT six months into your last year and then depart. Do you get a deduction to cover 50% of the cost?

Rotating Bacon 26th Feb 2016 16:16

does any body know if EK allows you a 3rd bag on your exit ticket?

Rotaiva 26th Feb 2016 23:31

Repatriation Allowance
 
Rotating Beacon -

Simple answer - any number of bags but no increase to the allowance (40kgs)!

I inquired with HR and because we get the 'shipping container' option we get no further allowance with repatriation-ticket-luggage-weight.

I went out with exactly 40kgs! That said I probably had about 7 bags/boxes checked in.

Fuzuma 27th Feb 2016 03:00

Hi all,

Just a quick and possibly stupid question, is there a website or something similar where people leaving are advertising goods they are wanting to sell before going home?

Odins Raven 27th Feb 2016 05:14

Dubizzle
 

Originally Posted by Fuzuma (Post 9283498)
Hi all,

Just a quick and possibly stupid question, is there a website or something similar where people leaving are advertising goods they are wanting to sell before going home?

Dubizzle.as

Fuzuma 27th Feb 2016 07:44

Hi Odins,

Thanks, was hoping there was a more EK specific website/platform where just EK guys/gals were the sole sellers. Thanks so much

777boyo 27th Feb 2016 08:38

Fuzuma,

There used to be an employee only For Sale page on Groupworld. Suggest you check with one of the EGHQ staff (excuse to visit Costa!) - they seem to be more familiar with the site and could give you more up to date information.

If you find you're getting close to departure day and you still have stuff to get rid of, you could try Cash Converters Dubai who will buy just about anything. Don't expect to get much money, but they will collect and take away.

Best of luck,

7B

BYMONEK 27th Feb 2016 09:26

Groupworld, my community.......staffmart. Sold my car there once! Dubbizle is a wider audience though and would be my first try.

Fuzuma 27th Feb 2016 10:17

777 & Bymonek,

Thanks very much for the info, I'm sure to your amazement/shock/disgust, I'm actually arriving, not leaving, just thought with lots of guys going home they may have goods in good condition that they were trying to get rid of. All the best in your new adventures........

Praise Jebus 27th Feb 2016 15:31

Fuzzy when you get to the training college there is a student crew room there. A pin up board has stuff for sale but not much, I have sold a few things via it. Not sure why others don't use it more.

Kapitanleutnant 27th Feb 2016 17:20

And don't forget the "Take my junk" .com guys. I called them twice with some things that I couldn't sell and they come right to your place with a large truck and will take everything from you.. all junk stuff or certainly good stuff too if you need it taken away.

Two or three guys doing the work.... I forget what the cost was but well worth whatever it was.

They even take things that are absolute rubbish with absolutely no value.... amazing.

Kap

777boyo 28th Feb 2016 00:08

Fuzuma,

As a new arrival I'd suggest you sign up for the pilots email groups - there will be one applicable to your fleet/rank (something like "ek777fo" or "ek777capt") and another more general one ("ekallpilots") - frequently used by by guys/gals trying to offload all manner of things. Signing up to the groups is simple - most of the guys you fly with will be able to give you details of the procedure. If not, I'm sure someone on this site would respond to a request for instructions.

Best of luck.
7B

Fuzuma 28th Feb 2016 06:24

Hi guys/gals,

Thank you very much for all the info, it is greatly appreciated. I apologize for the thread creep, somehow managed to turn it into the inverse :\

Jolly Foreigner 28th Feb 2016 07:06

There's also the staff mart via the crew portal, sold one of our cars through it, but be prepared for the usual time wasters taking the mick. Just because it's on an in-house EK portal doesn't mean it's muppet free.

:ok:

Dropp the Pilot 10th Mar 2016 06:26

Print-out/disc/file of flight records?
 
Someone mentioned you could get a file containing your entire flight and sim records since starting with EK. Anyone got a contact for that?

Kapitanleutnant 10th Mar 2016 06:30

Dropp

If you go onto the portal you can find the link for the flight time since day 1 at EK, or any dates you need to put in. For example, a number of airlines want the last 3 pages of your logbook or so, but you'll probably also want to print out the first page as it has your total time in whatever jet you're flying at EK.

Then, go get them stamped and signed by the chief pilot. No issues at all. They're probably used it by now with sheer numbers leaving!

Dropp the Pilot 10th Mar 2016 07:06

Thanks. Could you sketch out the link to follow?

yada.yada.yada 10th Mar 2016 08:50

crew information>my records>flight time report

Outatowner 10th Mar 2016 13:53


, go get them stamped and signed by the chief pilot.
Did you get your print outs signed? I've not heard of them ever being that helpful before.

GoreTex 10th Mar 2016 14:01

don't think they will sign it, it doesn't matter anyway

Kapitanleutnant 10th Mar 2016 14:47

I had mine stamped and signed by my chief and an assistant chief with no questions asked. Every other pilot did the same who was leaving around the same time from talking to them.

Maybe this has changed?

Kap


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