JP with those hours you should be a cert for easyjet. Maybe do that for a bit until EK open the gates again.

The Don

Very funny schnowzer very......i m sorry it s not my mmt and it s better:ok:

Hello everyone!

I'm going to do the PSP1 in Madrid.
Does any one know what can I expect from the simulator assessment (flight from LGW to MUC) besides the visual circuit and the engine failure?

Thanks

FO TT 5000hrs
A320 Family 4500hrs
NOT SUCCESSFUL....
A guy from Easyjet TT4000hrs...DIRECT ENTRY FO A380.
What is going on?

It's not just hours.

Busworld, just a quick question are you Airbus or Boeing rated?

If anyone is interested, Emirates are now advertising for direct entry non type rated A380 first officers.

Minimum Requirements

First Officer A380

- 3000 hours multi-engine, multi-crew, Jet with MTOW 50+Tonnes which must include1500 hours and current on modern fly by wire Airbus aircraft

- Full ICAO ATPL

Hopefully if you have the above and are already awaiting an interview you may find yourself DEP onto the A380!!!

Good Luck.

Interesting...!! this was just posted today...wondering what was the normal transition to the A380 ? 330/340 guys or what now? is there a senority list only for the A380 now? what the transition would be for the new hires getting on the BigBus :confused:

not only hours
 

Hi wizofoz

Is it possible to know what other factors come into play besides hours regarding emirates selection for interview ?

Hours get you in the door, personality and aptitude get you the job.

jad- There are LOTS of factors. It's very competitive now with lots of applicants to fill fewer positions.

You filled in a long application- both what you said and how you said it will be assessed.

just a point for those excited about DEP on the A380- bear a few things in mind.

- The pay is no different.

- It's becoming a good life-style aircraft, but for now the 777 beats it for variety

- It would likely be a long time to upgrade (for now the 777 is still quicker)

- And- and this is the biggie- if you ever want to leave Emirates, it's not a Type rating that is going to get you a job elsewhere, while 777 or 330/340 pilots are constantly in demand.

If anyone on here needs to ask (or is puzzled about ) what other factors are relevant other than hours...

Well lets just say - don't hold your breath for an offer.

f.

@adwjenk I'm Airbus rated (A320) shortlisted since Sep2012.

What about the simulator assessment, any ideas of what they will do on a LOE?


Thanks

A couple of commands on the mini bus after 12 months, so that would be the quickest at the moment. Over 110 777 now, with a planned fleet of 160. The majority of the 1800ish FOs ahead of you on the Seniors list are on the B777. If/when EK orders the 77x it wont be available until after 2020. So don't come here looking for a quick command, as the days of the fleet doubling every 3 to 4 years are gone. With present orders and aircraft retirement plans there is no command seat available for a new joiner at the moment.

Good luck,

The Don

Guys, it shouldn't matter what they might ask you or what they might do in the sim. If you are truly ready for this job then you will be able to comfortably handle whatever they throw at you. They aren't going to ask you to do calculus and they aren't expecting you to do an ILS inverted with your eyes closed. My god, how do you fly airplanes without knowing what going to happen? It must be terrifying for you. :ugh:

I actually wish there wasn't any gouge out there about the interview for candidates to prep from. Then perhaps we would get an honest assessment of the potential rather than canned or over prepped answers.

Hey guys got a question, what was your "wait" period from the time you sent in the application to the time you were called with an interview date?!! :confused:

:ok:

"Not Successful"
 

guys anyone knows why wud the status show "not successful" even before an interview call :uhoh::ugh:
im FO 2000 plus on A320 and FO 1000 plus on A330.
anybody else got this?

Hamd,

Unfortunately for you I think it's your location. A few of your compatriots have made your country less desirable for recruiting. There have been several cases of applicants who came in with overstated or fictitious hours. One of whom then proceeded to crash the sim on the first normal takeoff and two subsequent attempts. It sucks for guys like you who have put in real time. I've heard that the difficulty in verifying hours is the key factor, especially when there are many applicants from other countries not as affected by fraudulent logbooks. I'm not saying that about you in case that wasn't clear.

mooseknuckles: thnx for the info

yupp that could be a reason...there have been many cases here recently and in past...cant help it:ugh:...i guess ill try again later, if they ever get time to verify this atleast in the sim!!:rolleyes:

What?! There must be something more to it... A lotta guys from India have been called and selected. RECENTLY!


And Mr Moose-wiseass-Knuckles, like log books are not fudged anywhere else? :hmm:

Can you read VM?

Well, maybe that's it then. They look for a balance of background and culture, i.e. not too many of any one group. It's so they don't get together and start causing trouble when they find out it's not quite as advertised at the interview.

VM,

sorry if the reality offends you. If you would read my post carefully and think before you write you would see that I said its only a few cases here who are causing the problems for everyone else who have put in honest time. The reality is that logbook fraud is rampant on the subcontinent. Sure, it's always a problem everywhere, but nowhere else is it as bad or as public. Do you dispute that fact? I challenge you to refute the argument that logbook fraud is a problem in India. Please enlighten us.

VM,

The seniors list shows 8 chaps from India joining in the past 18 months. Not sure that counts as "allota". Perhaps the ones you know are NRI and holding another passport?
Now be a nice fella and apologize to Moosey, for you being such a prat.

The Don

Under review!!!
 

I have been sitting for a whole year with the Under Review on my application. Is this normal?

There's a "small" glitch I stumbled upon when I attended a road show a few months ago: The HR person making the presentation said at some point, that they would take no one over age 48 for F/O positions. There's nowhere in the EK careers site that states that fact, but I supose it could be to avoid discrimination acusations.

Actualy I started my flying career at age 40, so now I am 49 and 4,500 hrs TT, 4,200 are multi jet, 3,000 are wide body, 3,900 are Airbus, 1,300 FBW and an university degree. I think is experience enough to expect being called for an interview, or not?

I think that having succeded to start my carrer at that age, keeping my job with the same airline for 9 years, having my 2nd heavy jet type rating with 650 hrs TT, only says good things about my professional performance, and I still can offer 16 years of professional flying from now on.

Considering all this, is it normal to wait so long? Or the under review only means that they are waiting for me to give up? I am no longer absolutely sure that the EK option is the best for me presently (maybe that's why I take the risk of posting this and being identified), but I realy would like to understand if is this me or is it normal.

Cheers

When people speak of fraudulent log book entries how do people get away with this both airlines I have worked for wanted stamped books and also contacted previous employer to verify what is in my book is what I have flown can't see how anyone could get away with it especially with a company like emirates who I am sure do in depth background checks on prospective employees

3Ten, that's really impressive. Well done and good luck.

I can see a few bad apples from India damaging the reputation for the rest. Is this the same case for most sub-continent applicants?

I am currently working on a turbo-prop in Indonesia. I am hoping to move onto jets soon, hopefully in Indonesia and then in a few years Emirates. How does Emirates view experience from an airline in Indonesia where safety standards are lot lower than the west. A good example would be Lion Air.

Mooseknucles,


Yes, it does offend me that we had a two cases of people getting their licences fraudently and because of all the media attention it received it is a problem in the subcontinent? Even a go-around in India makes it to the frontpage. Why? Because it's "fun to read".


This boderline yellow journalism and I am sorry for my language used. Please read the following article

Passengers panic as chopper neared landing plane in Chandigarh | NDTV.com

This what our profession is subjected to every other week, and makes it a sensitive issue for me.


I take pride in being from the subcontinent and no, I wasn't aware that only 8 chaps have joined in the last year and half. Just like what flyboy_nz said a few bad apples shouldn't and doesn't give you the right to point a finger at everyone from the region.

VM,

Again, and for the third and last time, I emphasised that it was a few cases. Personally I do not care one little bit about this issue. I was simply relaying rumours (this is Pprune) that I had heard in the hiring dept. I am not personally pointing fingers at anyone. It would seem that your issue is with the media. What I can tell you for a fact is that I have several non-pilot friends from India who refuse to set foot on an Indian airline for this and several other reasons. Regardless, your apparent inability to read my statements and not take them personally or even comprehend what I was trying to say has led me to the conclusion that this is pointless, so best of luck.

p.s. remember the adage "thou dost protest too much"

And no rumors to entertain me mooseknucles?

hamd I have no idea why your status went to "not successful", quite frankly your guess is as good as mine.

Like moose said it could be due to your location but I highly doubt it. I seriously doubt it's because some Indian applicants come with fraudulent hours or crash the sim during the interview, or that EK doesn't want to hire too many from a single nationality (India wont be up there for sure)

If anything the big problem with pilots with Indian licenses is the DGCA. The airlines will certify the pilots logbook= that isn't the issue. The headache is the 6 month notice period and the DGCA not bothering about or replying to foreign authorities with verifications etc. Again no idea about your application but Indians do still get interviewed .....

That's been a problem as well.... The 6 months notice period. I don't see how a regulator needs to inforce it but, it's the law of the land! :rolleyes:

The guys who've gone to Singapore for Tiger or SilkAir had converted to their licences to FAA ATPL to overcome this problem. The DGCA simply won't reply to the verification requests.

yupp...thou the link is still there to "Update" the application, but the status wouldnt change anyway.:*
its just frustrating to be "Unsuccessful" without even getting a chance to prove it:ugh::rolleyes:
anyways, good luck to you guys!!

Try contacting them thru email... Or alternatively just put in another application.

See if that works for ya

I doubt a new application can be made with the same name, license number, passport number etc???? and as far as I know they don't reply to emails anyway...
good luck Hamd...its sad indeed!

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Hi.

Does anyone have a clue what's going on at the EK end at the moment? I passed interviews, sim and compass test in London nearly two years ago and I'm still waiting for the invitation to Dubai for the final two days of the assessment. Status has remained "shortlisted" all the time at my application. I'm in no rush but I'm still wondering as it really has been nearly two years since my first two days of testing.

SHORTLISTED
 

read earlier that if your status changes from shortlisted to SHORTLISTED (with capitals), you should be expecting a call for assessment any time. ..but I know someone whose been SHORTLISTED for the past year and a half....
Anyone knows anything about that????

They explained at the recent roadshow that shortlisted means you have met the requirements and/or being considered for specifically one of the fleet.

SHORLISTED means you have met the requirements and/or being considered for more than one type.

Thanks Xulu...
Have been SHORTLISTED for the past 3 weeks. ..

Anybody going to the PSP1 in AMS on the 18th August?

Shortlisted since February 2012.
SHORTLISTED since April 2013.

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I had to check out that one because I've never thought the difference between capitals and small letters...

So I'm "Shortlisted".