Dear DZ

I have been paid 4500 euros per months ( after tax ) , as a captain on a B737 for several years in Europe and this was more than enough to be a happy man and having a nice life.
The only reason I left is that unfortunately this company is not there anymore and I had to find another job.
If I knew ( before coming ) how it was here , despite the tax free salary , I would have tried to find another job.
I didn't have enough time to do some research before being hired and being unemployed I jump on the offer BUT I honestly regret it.

said like someone who's never worked for EK. Did you even read the threads? I mean ACTUALLY read them? The way things now you are not "enjoying" anything on days off. You're dealing with life through a constant fog of fatigue unlike anything you will experience anywhere else. Add to that having to deal with the mind numbing incompetence of people around you that steals yoyr time off for trivial matters the company loves to waste time with and you pretty much barely have time to scrape yoursrlf into a semblance of feeling human before the next trip. Forget "sleep recovery"; it doesn't exist.

and that's not even accounting for those who you know, have kids to consider. They take up time too.

speaking gor myself, this was with pretty non existent social life in the last 12 months of EK. I was using my time off to sleep and scrape through. Not that i didnt want to go out, you just end up at a point where you feel your health draining and know a big night will be tge end of you for a while. Remember, it seems sick leave is a privilege not a right it if you ask the dear employer... so dont count on that to 'save' you

finally, NOTHING is free in EK. You pay dearly for it in many, many ways

'twould only be just if you would preface your rants with "I have never ever been a pilot at Ek but...."

It does change things......

With the greatest respect DZ, until you have flown the rosters and the hours we do here you have no idea. The mixture of East-West, LH SH, compounded by 90 hours a month is ridiculous. Yes we did make a choice to become pilots but the ground has changed under our feet. When I joined I was doing 65-70 hrs a month, had a life outside work and felt rested. That has all gone, money is the only thing that keeps me here now, and that is a great shame.

Ah yes, I knew without looking when notified of a reply who it would be from. :rolleyes:

Dropp you never fail do you? You know what, you're absolutely right. It DOES change things. The fact is, I prefaced my statement with 'ever WORKED for EK'. I did work for them. For a good chunk of years too. And you know what? I agree with you. My being a CC and not a pilot DOES make a difference. It means that my rosters were even more constricted and more fatiguing because CC were subject to higher hour limits, and lower requirements for rest. So yeah, while my experience may not be entirely the same as that of a pilot, it is was no less damaging to my health and I argue that it may have been more so. Ever done a 132 BLOCK hour month? Stop trying to invalidate my experiences because you have some issue with non-pilot aviation staff in this forum. I hope you don't let that chip on your shoulder show when on the job, because if your attitude is the same there you can't be very pleasant to fly with. It's people with attitudes like this that cause the 'us vs them' mentality that EK love to abuse so much. We're all on the same team, CC are not your enemy.

I'm not sure what it is that makes you always nitpick my posts in particular, other than our differing career paths in the same industry, but then again I suppose it's your problem and not mine.

Guys, please don't let this degenerate into a CC vs pilots rant.

We are ALL pushed too hard here, our tempers are short and more so with tiredness. The hours that the CC work are equally ridiculous and for far less reward, every one of the CC has my respect and sympathy. Infighting between us does no good at all and makes us all look foolish.

No fighting here, just tired of the same individual taking a pop at me.

We're all tired, we're all over it. The question is, what will you do about it? At the end of the day we all have a choice. A choice to join, or not, a choice to stay, a choice to leave.

The problem here is that there are pilots reading this thread looking for information relevant to the experience of being an Emirates pilot and not Emirates cabin crew. Whilst your experiences are valid they are arguably irrelevant.

If you don't preface your posts with such information then you distort the message. It took me a while to work out your angle and no disrespect intended but I generally (this exchange excluded) disregard what you post for that reason.

It's got nothing to do with "pilots vs cabin crew". Is there even such a thing?

I've never hidden my role in this forum, there are plenty of non pilots and non EK who participate and not all of them are open about the fact that they don't work for the company.

You might think what I post is irrelevant and you're entitled to your opinion of course. However to only look at the experience of one employee group when considering to join is imho a huge mistake. The way they treat those "lower" on the chain than you indicates how you will eventually be treated. Maybe not right away but it'll happen. It's just the way it goes. I knew a bit about how the cleaners/bag throwers got treated before I joined but I wish I'd known specifics because it shows a lot about the management mentality overall.

I'll add a disclaimer to future posts (although on many I have said specifically I was talking from a CC perspective) hopefully that will keep the haters happy although I suspect some would prefer I not post at all. Too bad since I've been on this site in one form or another since the mid 90s, and I don't plan to go anywhere soon... Sorry not sorry.

I don't think there is "cc vs pilots" either but some here obviously do because they go out of heir way to make a big deal about things and not to other non-EK posters who don't even work for the company. Some in every group I guess *shrug*

If some one has recently started preparing for emirates assesment they can PM me.I am not that good with mathematics, i need some help. Thankyou

Shut the ,,,,,,, up. Your being cc and not Pilot makes a big difference. Aren't there threads specifically for Cc's
Sorry for my being a bit rude .

MggPilot..you innore her at you your peril..she speaks a lot of truth. If you dont wont to hear it fine...but but pull your head in....yes you are being very rude

No, it's a minimum to be an airline pilot for the GCAA. It's not another delusional decision from the bouncy castle ..

Skytest Vs Latestpilotjobs
 

Has anyone tried the Skytest software for their Emirates prep recently?

trying to figure out if it is better than latestpilotjobs package?

many thanks

Accommodation allowance officially stopped for new joiners... any thoughts on this?

GK

Are you suggesting that they wanna shoot themselves on the foot !!

No you're not or you would have been more civil in your reply.

Actually there aren't any threads for ME CC in the dedicated forum since this board got all lawsuit-shy and they shut them down some time ago. It's also the Middle East forum for aviation here, it ain't restricted to pilots - sorry to spoil your "exclusive" party... if you want to have your private club you can send your real name and staff number and join the EK locked pilots forum. (Best not be telling anyone to "shut the fk up" in there though)

The thread was about "Emirates interviews" and evolved into general joining scuttlebutt, nothing in the title restricted comments to pilots only (there have been engineers and ATC in here over time, funny never saw any comments putting them down because of their role or calling them "irrelevant") so perhaps you should work on those CRM skills, filter and just scroll on by if certain posts aren't relevant enough for you.

Happy flying.
Edit: I see you're a new joiner FO (or attempting to) in QR. Why exactly are you preaching to me on an EK thread again?

SOPS, apparently truth is only worth something if you're from a particular approved segment, shame the other segments are the ones who do the lowly work of keep the pilots fed and watered, how dare they have an opinion! (Yeah yeah, all you usual guys can save yourselves the trouble, I'll just pretend the expected remarks follow and save you the bandwith)

Percentage of post for thread topic: Hope those of you deciding to join anyway have read and re read everything in these forums, there's lots of useful info around.