RAM777,
Hopefully next time you write you will have that baby soother out of your face. No one takes a step back unless he is an idiot.
Cheers
A757

Hey rammy

Come back in 10 years.
Now go away pip squeek.

LHR Rain:

I have to compare USAir to EK because that is my basis for comparison. The point is that everyobdy thinking of coming to EK has a different reality, a different basis for comparison. Were I still at USAir I would be a junior narrow body F.O. on perpetual reserve with no more than 11 days off per month. For that I would get paid $75,000 per year before taxes. So for me, EK is better, and it would still have been better had I needed to wait the full three years to command.

TP

mr White Knight, please pm me to get some news you may be interested in

Comparing US Air with EK is like comparing BA with the British Charter companies. Yes both airlines fly airplanes but for vastly different pay rates and conditions. As has been described in previous posts about the conditions at US Air I can't believe that all of the pilot group at US Air is not here at EK. As you said they would get a huge pay rise and their quality of life would improve. But since you have probably over 2000 pilots on redundancy and only 15 or so US Air pilots here at EK I think that your thinking is a little bit flawed, at least the thinking of how great EK is. Your mileage may vary.

OK I figure things aren't as rosey there as EK wants me to believe. I know somebody who wants to leave. Yet I have an interview soon. Yes--a recent bankrupcy filing if you ask why.
Question though: How strick are they about resigning seniority??
Anyone??

A few ostriches in management that need to get their head out of the sand me thinks.

"We are not short of pilots, only 2 are leaving per month and we have 25 applications per day!" the crystalised view of the head of Flt Ops.

His boss writes a letter to thank us for our hard work. Meanwhile the fleet manager tells us to watch this space because India has open skies for a while and Bus pilots are asked to give leave back. The blocking window for Nov bidding was set between 85 and 95 or 15-28% of overtime.

Now the only reason I know that a company would be forced to fly their pilots 15-28% into overtime, even before contingencies, is because they have screwed up the manpower planning. It will get worse with 4 jets a month pitching up unless steps are taken now to get ahead of the drag curve. Planes don't fly if they don't have enuough bernoullis on the wings or pilots in the cockpit.

Hey ostriches, get your heads out of the sand and take steps to fix the wheel before it breaks!!! Pilots are no longer falling over themselves to come to EK, you have to take steps to attract them. EK and the management all the way up to the top will look pretty stupid if they have a fleet of 170 aircraft in 2010 with pilots to fly 100!

Cerberus

Good point Cerburus
 

I am glad to read the messages and facts like CERBERUS writes. I read too much of **** too in these pages, but that's normal! Let's face the fact that human is a kind of animal who will never stop to complain. There will always be something to complain. EK case is the management..yes, there is for sure mistakes made and...and...and..

Have you guys been reading the story of Sun Express on these pages...and many more similar cases. You see, **** happens everywhere. It's awful to read...accidents waiting around the corner-type of messages from other pilots due to...reason...reason and so on. I hope, and I am sure the management are aware of things like Cerberus writes, and hopefully thay will do something about it. Before it's too late.

Thanks C

LHR Rain;

Most US pilots won't come to Emirates for a varity of reasons. After all we have somewhere around 12,000 pilots on the street with more to come from Northwest and Delta and very few pilots that go overseas to work as pilots. The main reason is if pilots can find work in the states they are better off staying there financially. Others that can't find work as pilots start a second career doing something they like or that is rewarding to them and wait for their recall notices.
When I came over to Emirates because I was furloughed most pilots I talked to said two common themes. Why are you going to work over there? Meaning Saudia Arabia. The second one was "that sounds like a good gig but there is no way my wife would let me move my family over there." Others to a varying degree said it would be a pay cut for them and most of those pilots were and are right.
So Rain that in a nutshell is the reason not that many US Airways or US pilots are here. Typhoon and A330 MAN could answer that question better though.

Shit happens?
 

Jarops - '**** happens everywhere' - why does it have to?

'I hope, and I am sure the management are aware of things like Cerberus writes, and hopefully thay will do something about it. Before it's too late.'
- sorry but they seem not to be aware of what is happening (or pretend not to know) and hence they cannot do anything about it!!

I would like to think that most people that write here do so because they are just frustrated with the mis-management that has lead to the situation of EK have minimal morale. EK used to be a good prospect but now it is fundamentaly lacking management from credible leaders. Hence everything is going downhill.

All of us out here came for one reason or another and if Ek had lived up to what it SAID it was when we initially joined I think we would be a lot happier than we are now. This could be a great job - but it will never be if management have anything to do with it!!!!

I personally think the main problem is TRUST - we don't trust EK managment I iota. You have to earn trust - not beat it into people!!!

Plenty of blank spaces on Dec B777 joining courses for December.

When I joined,every space had a name and months ahead of your preferred joining date.

Times change,I guess an unbelievably different situation from when I came.

QB:cool:

QB,

Don't you worry mate. Those spaces will be filled in by the 3rd world. The call has gone out and they are responding very nicely indeed. Just look at the recent courses and how they are filled.

On a separate note, word on the street is that transition upgrades will be allowed in the weeks ahead. All that is needed is the GCAA's signature on the FCI. This should help fill the courses as well especially from Europe.

EK does not care who is filling the courses just as long as they are filled.

That is a new low, even for you LHR. :yuk: Who cares what color the skin of the pilots is ? Of the pilots at EK from the USA, I personally know 7 who are not white, does that make them less skilled or less desirable employees ?

Don't judge people by the color of their skin. :mad:


TP

I have to agree with Typhoonpilot, LHR is way out of line. Flown with the best & the worst of crew and race has nothing to do with it. Shamefull post

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http://www.7days.ae/

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I\'ve seen huge changes recently. Like most of us posting here.

Yep in the good old days EK recruitment policy was like a dash of black pepper on a cream of white mushroom soup. That too for the taste alone. Obviously it wont taste too good with lots of pepper NOW. :8
The mushrrom now feel we have been kept in the dark and fed Bu-- sh--.:E

Thanks for the support SS. Way to many people are sensitive on this site and we still have the right to express ourselves anyway we deem fit with some possible exceptions.

In the last few months EK has already recruited the "D" team. The standards are down and so is everyone else. When are the higher ups going to figure this out? Just look at the recent classes going through the training college. Dark clouds on the horizon indeed!

LHR

What a snobby bast*** you are. How dare you judging people by seeing them at the college. What makes you think you are so superior?

I wonder how can one judge the standards of the new joiners just by coming across them at theTrg School.?

What is the criteria

1) Their accents
2) The colour of their skin
3) the Licence held
4) the grades achieved
5) or just talk around the "barbie"( welll perhaps a bit of digs here guys or shall I use the "pub" or yacht club or the Khaima))

There was a time at BOAC that there were no Scots or Welsh or Irish on the Flight deck.For the same reason ( plain racisim) that seems to be creeping up into this forum. For those detractors on the forum, you will be happy to note that BOAC and now BA are quite happily flying with "multi-lingual " crew all over the world.
Wake up guys this is the 21st century even BOAC now BA has woken up to the simple truths and had an Ozzie and now an Irish at the helm of affairs

I have always admired Emirates multi national work force as a model for others to follow . The harmony and the camradarie between nationalities is second to none and underscores the importance of having an open and transparent induction policy without compromising its standards;

BM

LHR Rain what is your problem. If you dont like it go back to your country as a bush pilot.

We dont neet incompetent idio.. like you here in EK.

So do us a favour and resign.