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You must be insane to join this course after all the warnings

Hi ,

May i ask if you have any idea of Asian institute of Aviation or Royhle flight training academy?
Any reviews and how they help their graduates land a job?

Unfortunately, i cant afford AAG.

Thanks,

Hello all,

Can some please tell on how to fund for the Air Arabia MPL program please? I am a Indian living in Dubai I would like to know how the cadet's fund their training cost for this program since it's a huge amount and do the banks in UAE provide loan for this program?

As far as I’m aware no bank will fund you to do this in the UAE. Don’t even think of getting a cash loan to do this it’s a debt that will be decades and if they kick you out , you are in serious trouble

So basically this program is really meant for people with more money than brains.

Some just can’t get control over their jealousy

I see a dead end loser up criticizing Alpha Cadet pricing but EasyJet MPL after you’ve really factored all the costs brings it down the same with the GBP 125k price tag. Why do i get a feeling some feel what they’re opting for is the best and the rest is **** ? You’re poor, you can’t afford it that’s all. Or maybe you feel European quality is the best and the rest is sh*t but you know down inside you’re just weak and instead of facing competition you’re just trying to kill it. To the guy who said he would never trust ABY, you just made me laugh my *ss hard. You must really be a high school failure to even think if you don’t fly ABY then it will change something. In that part of the world people could pay just to not have see you onboard, even empty planes with just FD fly dude, we call that commuting.

Real update about the situation :-

I have a friend who is currently at ABY from the AAA cadetship. It’s not an easy life but if you’re hard working enough you’ll reach satisfaction. Not to forget even if they don’t retain you later on, you still get an MPL with 1500 precious jet time. With those hours, in the current aviation era you’re going to be a long way ahead ! Expect to spend about USD200k, but if you go traditional CPL/IR expect to spend the next USD 100k building hours(used to be 500hrs, now they’re asking for 800hrs). Don’t even think of proposing towering, instructing or touring these solutions work great only in EU, US or further end AU, in third world countries expect next to zero opportunities apart from airlines.

Don’t go into the foolish thought that attending a US/EU school program would mean at the end of your schooling you can stay to work, simple answer is NO. Some are just spitting their venom here thinking <<we’re buying our way into the system>> instead of working hard like them. But i would like to take time to remind them in our countries we’re not so fortunate to have local air clubs where you could get a PPL for €7k only at a 10 mins drive from home or H&F a Cessna for €75 under a club membership to build time over weekends while still keep a wife and kid happy at home running a full time white collar job. Not so more, instead of living in your own country many move to less developped countries in search of better opportunities though they don’t welcome foreigners in their home country making life even harder for existing pilots there since airlines instead of hiring newbies waiting at home will select already qualified expats since it’s cheaper.

My advice to those with the dream out there, if you’re 19 then you’re still just a baby in this field. You have till you’re 35 for someone to take you serious in aviation. Save hard, earn your way into cadet programs and w*rk your *ss hard to secure that 1500 jet hours and your MPL to be in a position to select your next flying gig.

I guess some are not happy, but eitherway your responsibility is fly passengers safely and not to entertain them(you could but its not an obligation).

Remember, PPRUNE is also filled with a lot of negative people, the positive ones are busy living the real dream out there that’s why they’re rarely here. Even if you do meet them then they always have positive things to say instead of whining. Its all an attitude thing ..

is anybody going this course now? i am 35 years old and planing to start. Am i crazy?

i would say yes. I have a friend who joined this program and is not happy. You better go to USA where training is cheap and try to find a job as instructor or prop and build your way. Since you are 35 and by the time you finish this program you can be 40 I doubt air Arabia would consider you.

Specifically - If you have the option to get into a program at the end of which you have an ATPL, a 320 rating and 1500hrs on type. Is there a better offer that you can put our way? Or do you feel doing your own way through flight school and ending up without a job with 250hrs and a FROZEN ATPL will be better?

Having an ATPL and time on type isn't a golden ticket.

Many P2Fers graduated and found this out. Your skills may have been accepted by the P2F airline but some other airlines may find you not up to standard.
"But I know a guy who is in Emirates now after doing P2F". Great one person who made it. You never hear about the others

pilotchute what is the difference between doing these MPL programs from programs offered by EagleJet International? Aren’t they both P2F ?
so why does it seem like doing it with eagle jet has a worse reputation?

this Emirates Pilot, which kind of P2F did he do?

Hi all,

I am planning to pursue MPL programme in Sharjah, UAE in 2021, can anyone advise me if my decision is correct or do I have to do some research on other flying schools in US.
Thanks for your guidance.

Hi Sir,
I am Dubai based student and am planning to joining Alpha Aviation Academy , Sharjah in Aug'20. Appreciate if you can send me the latest feedback on the academy and their training standard. Also please send me the the questions that can be asked in Physics and Maths during the section process.

Hi.
I successfully passed stage 1 assessment (ADAPT), soon I'll be doing stage 2 of the enrolment assessment which is the panel interview. Please anyone who has been through the interview give me tips on how to tackle it especially the technical part, and please share your experience I'll be grateful and thankful.

Have you lost your mind ?

do you see what’s happening around you ?

are you aware that they fired cadets and those kids have lost all their money without any license ?

pfvspnf

Fools and their money are soon parted.

Ahh to be young an naive....

I just looked up the cost of Alpha Aviation Academy. Not including food, accommodation and health insurance it's €180,000!!!

Are people out of their *"'#@&+ minds?????

So you get an MPL and 1500 hours and it's over 200,000 euro? Not a guaranteed job just a guaranteed 1500 hours.

I need to open an MPL school.

You should go for it ! I can introduce you to some of my countrymen in Lagos who will be very interested in doing more business with you

You will NOT finish this course in two years , you will be on the ground and with all these restrictions no one will open up for basic modular core flying.

it’s your money

It will be interesting trying to get the 1500hrs with hardly any flying going on, and what is available, would be used by the trained line pilots to keep current.
The current cadets trying to get the 1500hrs will be at the front of the line with all the other courses behind them. It will be a long time getting anywhere near the A320 with such a huge bottleneck in the training. Without that 1500hrs and only an MPL you are worthless to any other employer, and even with the 1500hrs you will struggle for a long time with the current glut of experience pilots worldwide.

Let us know which airline you eventually end up with. Anyone who can't punctuate and use sentences ... well, i'd rather not be a passenger with them on the flight deck. Thanks.

Its funny you should say that. On talk radio here today, there was some ‘ Academic’, explaining that some of our young snowflakes are finding full stops and commas offensive. And getting a full stop in a text message can cause them ‘ undue stress’. I kid you not!!!’

Where does this crap stop?? 😤

Crickey. Zero patience for these woke snowflakes that get offended by anything that doesn't fit their worldviews. A bit like our chap Ibra; comes on here asking for advice, gets said advice, and then gets his khandura in a twist because he doesn't like what he's hearing. :ugh:

the delay is getting longer and longer just to complete the training. it took 3years around 2-3years ago. now my friend who joined 2016 hasn't started flying. he has been waiting for almost 5years and still doesn't know when to start. meanwhile the payment plan became worse and worse. the second officer contract changed as well.
they used to give 5000dhs per month from the first flight. the new contract says only after cover release (during line training you will need a cover pilot for around 4-5months). which means first 4months you won't get anything. now on top of it, they reduced from 5000 to 3500 per month and it is prorated, which means if you fly 15days, your salary will be 1750 only. they decided not to pay your off days. some cadets raised their voice about this unfair adjustment and alpha said this money is just benefit not the salary. if they want to stop giving them any benefit any longer it doesn't need to be given at all. and obviously it is written as a benefit on the contract. I wGMouldn't be surprised if they stop giving any money for 1500hrs. either paid or not, the cadets will want to finish 1500hrs for ATPL and maybe have to be thankful for the benefit if given.
the cadets are under alpha even after the graduation of school. Still being treated like a student and under the supervision of alpha.

And just when I thought that they had reached the bottom!!

training salary can soon be zero and much higher chance of being terminated before the course finishes

With this unprecedented delay, unfairness, false promises and ridiculously high fee, surprisingly there are still students registering this MPL course.
ever since the new management came and changed every single person at school, nothing has been better but getting extremely worse with new rules and regulations.

Has anyone experienced grooming check in any schools in the world? They do grooming check and ask ppl to keep the video on for whole day for the online classes. seriously don't understand what they get out of such. they are dealing with adults not kids.

1500hr isn't guaranteed with air arabia. Simply call them and ask. They might say 95% gets the contract bla bla bla but truth is different.

And you must expect anything worse than you imagine when you register this school. The delay all depends on alpha management and you will be just delayed without reasons regardless of your joining date.

Just sick of listening to ppl who are saying as if job is guaranteed.

Please elaborate more on the grooming check

Hi. Could you pls give us some insight about the questions asked about physics and maths please ? And tell us about the insiders of the selection process please. Thanks.

Physics : describe how a square thing ( cadet - mpl pilot ) can be fitted in a round one ( pilot job market ).
Maths : 10.000 pilots are looking for job in an industries that require 0 (zero ) , what will be the percentage of those that will be hired ?

Air Arabia has ordered 121 newer Airbuses in the Dubai airshow 2019. Deliveries are to be started at 2024. Isn't there going to be a huge pilot shortage then for the MPL cadets to jump in ? Also, Alpha is partnered with Air Arabia, so for Alpha to continue, Air Arabia needs to recruit from Alpha. Doesn't it add up to something optimistic ? What you all think ?

People will always say there's a pilot shortage until there isnt. In aviation its just like a rollercoaster, if you get in when the rollercoaster is going up you hit the jackpot, just dont get in too late to the apex because thats when you'll be the first one to get kicked out.

first 2001, then 2008, then 2020, lets see which ones next.

IceCubeX

They may never be delivered. They may be like for like replacements. Air Arabia might go broke. Who knows in these crazy times.

Are you completely high or what ? Pilot shortage ? Do you see the number of pilots around you that are now driving ubers and working at Coles ?

if you can’t get a hold of simple decision making at this stage , a flying career isn’t for you mate

I don't even give advice anymore. If they wanna get their parents to borrow against the family home then go for it. Fools and money part easily.

There is more than enough information on the Web to make a decision if it's a good time to start flight training.

Guys Simple and easy, as long as Capt. N and Capt Y. are there do not even think of joining Air Arabia or Alpha Aviation Academy

Thank you for being positive,man!
Really Appreciate it

Could you please explain better the delays you mentioned? Your friend has been waiting for 5 years to start the 1500hrs, because of the airline? Can anyone else, that has been in this programme!!!, confirm if this actually happens?
I don't care about the opinion of frustrated old farts that haven't been in the course.
Thank you