Strange.......

Expats at THY

Hi guys, according to one of my friends working there on B777 , this is now the real situation in THY for expat:

Gearlever, nothing strange, all B737, A320, A330 expats pilots are on unpaid leave until end of may 2021. Only the B777 riders have got the right to keep on flying during winter and spring time... so far...
But conditions drastically changed in terms of salaries and contract: just focus on that one: salaries are still paid in TL ( local currency which has been devaluated by 500% in 6 years now 1USD is nearly 10 TL) and the average salary for a B777 captain is
40000tl when he flies... the previous contract was giving free hotel to expat or at least some housing allowance : all gone.

It means that long haul captain is finishing his month roughly with 3500 euros in THY after having paid his apart fees. I dont even mention here the case of first officers...

These are simply facts in THY about expat life.

I’m not sure how you came up with those numbers.

5-6 year ago, 1 USD ~ 3.8 Lira

the current rate I 1 US - 8.4 Lira

yes, it has depreciated about 120%, not 500 as you claimed.


....economically the country is in bad shape , but let’s not exaggerate

Not quite.

In 2010 the lira was around 2.2 to the £
currently its around 11.5 . Thats a depreciation
of , well 500% .

depends on your starting point of reference.
Anyone whos been there for coming on 10 years knows the score. The lira sucks, has little value and the salaries are hopelessly inadequate.

I do hear rumours they are going to open up B777 recruitment though. Apparently they are very busy on this fleet, and hope to take on a few ex ME B777 trainers.

How is that even possible if all the foreigners are currently on unpaid leave?

Approximately 16000 TL for narrow body F/O. Add max 3000-4000 TL for wide body. After January, there will be another 25% cut for pilots from THY Academy.

Regarding B777 rec.; if happens, 99.9% will be from internal sources. Tons of narrow body captain/fo fly around max 10 duty days per a month.

Dear Zymian,

On January 01, 2015 the Official USD to TRY Exchange Rate:Close: 1 USD = 2.3331 TRY

Best: 1 USD = 2.3331 TRY

Worst: 1 USD = 2.3331 TRY

Yet you are rignt it is now 1 euro = 10 tl and not 1 usd.

I was partially right.

Anyone got a near to normal roster ?

Unpaid leave extended till end of June.

Current rosters are around 50% less of 2019.

So 50% is better than nothing.
its good to finally start getting some money back in the bank, even though its not much , it all helps

18.45% increase to all company staff. The cut was 50% (+10% if have training debt) from flight crews.

Never come to turkey
 

Hi guys

Im A320 first officer with more than 6000 hrs FLT time , before corona crisis i went to upgrade course for 737 as a captain

Its been 9 months that I'm in unpaid leave and few days ago they gave me 2 option stay in unpaid leave for more than 5 months without any guarantee or take 6 salary and say good bye after 4 years working for this company , important things which will make every one angry is this , turkish airline has roughly 4700 pilot and 400 expat the only group which send to unpaid leave are expat pilots for A320,A330,B737, they are not responding to any email from expat they even cancelled all ticket allowance for the past 9 month .

I'm so angry about how they treat expat pilots and every 2week they send report or video to social media with big title ( we will succeed together) and (we didnt fired anyone )

Now you know how they succeed together by forcing expat to get unpaid leave .

Aviation industries will be raise again just keep in mind when they asked you to come and work for them.

PapaEchoIndia

Do you know what the salary is for FO and Captains? I tried looking for some figures, but I get very different results everywhere. Ranging from 12k try to 40k try for FO for example.

Asking because I'm curious about the salary development in the last years as the local currency has plummeted hard.

At the moment 16-17K for FO. For captaina around 25-30K. This is for narrow body and not 100% sure for Captains.

Before figures before the covid, double the numbers more or less.

Turkish Airlines Flight Academy
 

Hi,
Does anyone know if the academy will recruit cadets to begin at the end of the year or early next year?
Thanks!

is that even possible ?

Any informations about external recruitment and hiring for 2022?

Milio1214

Hang in there. If you quit, they win and you lose 4 years of seniority. These 5 months will go quick.

The rumour is there is no external hire until 2023.