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737crew 1st May 2019 12:17

Decided well
 

Originally Posted by aronsha (Post 10459095)
just decided in favor of eva and against thy. with embargo sanctions coming the lira is expected to drop by 20-30%. screening seems to be quite fair but working conditions getting pretty bad. hr staff sketchy. my recomm is to stop wasting your time and apply somewhere else.

Just slammed the door and heading for Asia. All of us Captains were under extreme pressure at THY recently. HR was doing a terrible job last years and still is. 5 years in Asia should give me a healthy distance to THY. Hope that they change their attitude in the meantime so I can return and do my job in my home country again.

Mirage8024 1st May 2019 17:34


Originally Posted by aronsha (Post 10459095)
just decided in favor of eva and against thy. with embargo sanctions coming the lira is expected to drop by 20-30%. screening seems to be quite fair but working conditions getting pretty bad. hr staff sketchy. my recomm is to stop wasting your time and apply somewhere else.

You’re right. I was about to star the paperwork with THY but everyone says the Local currency is dropping everyday and pilot working conditions are not good at all at the present moment 😔.
My first option was Xiamen Air but with the MAX issues they cancelled my screening. Do you recommend any other?. (ICAO license 737 TR).
thank you

Mirage8024 1st May 2019 17:45


Originally Posted by 737crew (Post 10460478)
Just slammed the door and heading for Asia. All of us Captains were under extreme pressure at THY recently. HR was doing a terrible job last years and still is. 5 years in Asia should give me a healthy distance to THY. Hope that they change their attitude in the meantime so I can return and do my job in my home country again.

sorry to hear that and thanx for replying.
i was excited about Xiamen Air but they cancelled my screening for the MAX issues 😔.
if you have any recommendations I’ll be glad to hear. I’m currently 737 Captain and hold ICAO license.
wish the best wherever you are!.

sonoma 4th May 2019 11:46

It used to be the case that widebody DECs were given the option of company provided hotel accommodation while in base. That is no longer available.
Can anyone recently hired and sourcing their own accommodation near the new airport, tell us how their experience has been so far.
There is one hotel listed at/near the airport. I imagine early checkins and late checkouts, seasonal variation in room availability and cost, could make it a frustrating and expensive process.

PapaEchoIndia 5th May 2019 07:41

Can accommate in hotels around Ataturk and use the shuttle buses, some expats still do that. Havent seen any hotel around the airport btw

aronsha 6th May 2019 17:49


Originally Posted by Mirage8024 (Post 10460710)

You’re right. I was about to star the paperwork with THY but everyone says the Local currency is dropping everyday and pilot working conditions are not good at all at the present moment 😔.
My first option was Xiamen Air but with the MAX issues they cancelled my screening. Do you recommend any other?. (ICAO license 737 TR).
thank you

hi mirage. you should try at ryr, they need dec. in asia garuda is definitely worth a notion. what about china southern? flydubai has also improved conditions.
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AG9881 19th May 2019 07:08

Low time pilot with no jet experience
 
Hi everyone,
Do you know if Turkish Airlines hire pilots with no Jet experience? I live in U.S I fly Shorts 360. I have around 800 hours Multi Turbine time and 1200 TT..

Best regards

737crew 25th May 2019 09:37


Originally Posted by AG9881 (Post 10474721)
Hi everyone,
Do you know if Turkish Airlines hire pilots with no Jet experience? I live in U.S I fly Shorts 360. I have around 800 hours Multi Turbine time and 1200 TT..

Best regards

Normally they don't. But there have been many exceptions to their rules recently. Would still try and send directly a mail to responsible person for recruiting expats.

psychomantic 25th May 2019 12:37


Originally Posted by AG9881 (Post 10474721)
Hi everyone,
Do you know if Turkish Airlines hire pilots with no Jet experience? I live in U.S I fly Shorts 360. I have around 800 hours Multi Turbine time and 1200 TT..

Best regards

They request 1500 hrs above 27 tonnes. Don't send them an email if you don't fulfill the requirements.

gearlever 25th May 2019 17:53


Originally Posted by 737crew (Post 10479204)
Normally they don't. But there have been many exceptions to their rules recently. Would still try and send directly a mail to responsible person for recruiting expats.

A cousin or a friend or a friend of a cousin at the HR department may help also....

AG9881 25th May 2019 18:18

psychomantic;

I've heard they hired bunch of new pilots (they had only 200 hours or something) from Germany. That's why I got my hopes up.

Python27 25th May 2019 18:52

middle east is a place with no standards at all, specially a bad job like this where they don't have enough pilots to fill the vacancy. I wouldn't mind to try.... The no is likely, but it's free.

But I forgot... turkey is Europe HAHA


tomuchwork 25th May 2019 20:23

Just went quickly over some posts, sorry if I missed somehing. It seems THY is getting more and more desperate, now reading that even turkish people are leaving is a bit impressive. I was interviewed for the THY "gig" already around 2013, passed but did not join(especially the THY "instructors" on the sim did not really made a great impression to me(e.g. had 3 of them, all locals, all THY - ALL of them talking ALL the time in turkish with each other, the guy that was supposed to assist me made an incredible bad job at it playing my FO(do not know if intentionally or it is just standard down there), most of the time I had to do it by myself because even repeatedly asked to do a job the guy never did, was to busy jabbing in turkish to his mates.Forgot to mention that my entire "sim briefing" was taking exactly 2 Minutes(yes!!) At the end I did it solo which turned out fine but not for me personally).

Apart from that they do NOT offer a proper commuting roster, even not for europeans. And I do not want my family in Istanbul(no offence, but that is how I feel, especially now with the new sultan rising, you do not want loved ones trapped in that country at the moment). Then there is the decreasing value of the turkish lira. Simply not interesting anymore for any westener. I need to pay my bills in Euros and not in TL(which are down to 0,15 already).

Now, Turkish tried a few times to "convince" me to join. Apparently now they are back to agencies, just received an email with the "fantastic" terms last week.

I would say - IF you got a job, don't even bother thinking about THY. IF you are young, low on experience, unemployed, it might be your time to join that outfit as they become more and more desperate. Strangly they do not think to improve salaries and commuting roster with guaranteed seat in the THY network, maybe offer Euros instead of TL to Western Pilots. So many ways they COULD attract pilots with significant experience, however, they choose not to. Not my airline so I honestly do not care.

AG9881 25th May 2019 20:29

tomuchwork

I really appreciate it. I'm aware of all that stuff but I think it would be good experience to work there. I'm just not sure if they would hire me or not ...

psychomantic 25th May 2019 22:06

Not only from Germany, but also other countries from Europe. But now only experienced FOs

psychomantic 25th May 2019 22:19

tomuchwork

Some comments:
* desperate no. People are leaving, but also coming. Saw last week 10 captains opening a bank account in Yesilköy
* commuting roster (8/9 days block off) only for the widebody 777/330 with confirmed seat for captains only
* they won't pay in euro, don't expect that
* sultan or president, don't come up with things, don't make up


AG9881 26th May 2019 20:03


Originally Posted by 737crew (Post 10479204)
Normally they don't. But there have been many exceptions to their rules recently. Would still try and send directly a mail to responsible person for recruiting expats.

Do you know if they ask for Apt? I'm 300 hours shy from my APT and ATP written.

Monarch Man 27th May 2019 19:46

Capt numbers as emailed to me recently.


The breakdown of monthly gross wage of TL 60.749 payable to the Employee is indicated as below:
a) TL 2.396 Seniority Fee*
b) TL 25.499 flight compensation
c) TL 31.989 credited additional flight compensation
d) TL 865 Subsistence allowance
On top of the monthly gross payment indicated above, a bonus payment of TL 27.895 (approximately TL 9.298 per month) is to be paid to the Employee every three months (March, June, September and December, as for (a) seniority payment and (b) flight indemnity).
*Note: The salary is inclusive of a seniority allowance. If you hold a Bachelor’s Degree qualification, then this allowance shall remain included in the monthly salary. However, if you do not hold this qualification then the monthly gross salary will be reduced By TL 2,396.
This fee may vary according to education level, and after completion of the first one year, the employee is given one level of seniority.
The basic salary above is the gross amount payable by THY. Turkish taxes will be payable on this salary which are approximately 15% per month including social security deductions.

aronsha 7th Jun 2019 11:51

Income taxes are much higher. It's about 20% without social sec deductions. THY isn't worth a notion.

aronsha 7th Jun 2019 11:56

tomuchwork

They mailed me twice within 6 weeks. They stopped low hour pilots intake but desperately searching for DEC. I would rather work for Arik air than for THY.


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