Turkish Airlines - THY Recruitment (Merged)
 

Turkish Airlines - THY is looking for a lots of pilots DEC/DEFO on both 737 and 777 ... anybody has any news about the recruitment process, sim assessment and all other good stuff!thanks

Does anyone know if they take on fresh fATPL-people straight out of flight training? I am a turkish citizen also but my turkish is not very good.

THY probably take turkish citizens with fATPL.... search around on Airliners.net im sure there are some turkish airlines pilots there that could help u out..

... well apparently THY is looking for big numbers and I'm quite positive you do not need to have the citizenship to join the team. Definitely a full JAA ATP is recommended for DEC, not sure if for DEFO a JAA CPL + JAA frozen are enough!

Ok.Here is the email from wasinc found on my dad's inbox.:}

Pilots Needed for Turkish Airlines:
A320/B737NG:

• Captains – 200 crewmembers
• First Officers – 600 crewmembers

Minimum Requirements:
B737NG Captain -

• 2000+ hours PIC on type
• 6000+ hours total time
• 4000+ hours in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 27 tonnes or greater
• Current on type
• Valid/current ATPL
• Valid passport
• Valid/current Class A (First Class) Medical
• ATPL issued from an ICAO Contracted State
• ICAO Level 5 English proficiency (Level 4 may be considered in the future)
• Age limitation between 37 – 59 years old
• No history of incidents or accidents
• No criminal history

B737 First Officer -

• Frozen ATP
• Bachelors Degree (four year university degree)
• 500+ hours on type
• 1500+ hours total time
• 1000+ hours in multi-crew, multi engine jet MTOW of 27 tonnes or greater
• Current on type (Last flight must be within last 6 months)
• Valid/current ATPL
• Valid passport
• Valid/current Class A (First Class) Medical
• ATPL issued from an ICAO country
• ICAO Level 5 English proficiency (Level 4 may be considered in the future). Other English endorsements also accepted.
• Age limitation between 25-45 years old.
• No history of incidents or accidents
• No criminal history

Domicile: Istanbul, Turkey
Contract Term:
Benefits:
B737NG Captain:

• Salary
  • B737/A320 Captain: $10,121USD/month (gross) ($8,660 base + $1,431 quarterly bonus)
  • TRI/TRE: $1,359USD/month (gross)
  • Ground Training Instructor: $951USD/month (gross)
  • Bonus: Quarterly bonus of $4,293USD ($1,431/month)
  • Schedule will be 5 days ON / 2 days OFF or 6 days ON / 1 day OFF

B777 First Officer:

• Salary (Salary, Bonus, and Overtime rate is determined by your level of previous flight experience)
  • B737 First Officer: TL8,000 to TL10,000/month (gross) (about $5,395USD to $6,744USD)
  • Quarterly bonus of TL3,500 to TL4,200 (about $2360USD to $2832USD)

Additional Benefits:

• Standard health plan provided
• Accommodation & Transportation at base will be provided
• Overtime is time flown over 70 hours/month. Time flown on religious/national holidays and Sunday paid at same overtime rate.
  • Captain: $102/hr
  • First Officer: TL95 to TL114 (about $64USD to $76USD)
• Annual Leave
  • One year of Duty – 18 work days
  • 5 years to 15 years – 24 work days
  • More the 15 years – 30 work days
• Other Leave
  • Paid casual leave up to 7 days
  • Paid marital leave for 8 days
  • Paid birth leave for 6 days
  • Paid death in family leave for 7 days
  • Pilot may be granted a non-paid leave up to 90 days in a year with written application
• Employee Travel (for use by spouse or children):
  • After 1st year – One (1) ID00 and Two (2) ID90 domestic tickets
  • After 2nd year – One (1) additional ID00 international ticket (Middle East and Europe Only)
  • After 3rd year – One (1) additional ID00 domestic ticket
  • After 5th year – One (1) additional ID90 international ticket
  • After 10th year – Four (4) additional ID90 international tickets

Additional Information:

• To calculate Net pay: Approximately 95% of Gross salary is paid to the employee and 5% will go for local taxes.
• Expat status may dramatically reduce your home country national tax liability. Consult your CPA for tax advice.
• Interviews will be 15 days in length held in the USA. All travel and accommodation costs will be paid by Turkish Airlines.
• You will need to be able to start your contract within 1 month of your interview.

Will they be able to find 600 FO's with the above minimums?:eek:

Guys, they have been looking for about 14-15 mths or more now.
Vacancy has been on their own website, and for the last 8mths or so has been advertised by EVERY agency in Europe & some even further afield (and that is no exaggeration). They recently changed from JAA to "any" licence.
Why ?
Search function is your friend, what is on offer is not all you would wish to expect from a "flag carrier".

Anyone have any experience flying for them and/or living in Turkey?

It seems to me that they have been looking and interviewing people for a long time now but I have not heard of anyone who have actually started working there yet. Does anyone know?

Will they really find 600 FOs with 4 years of university background?

Are they maybe out for a contract type of employment system such as Ryan? 600 FOs probably means that the current ones will have to leave...

THY is DREAMING
 

There is no way they are going to fill all those positions. Not with the current requirements they have. Type rating/time on time! I don't think so. they'll be competing against Korean, Vietnam, Air Arabia, FlyDubai, just to name a few. All of them with better terms and conditions.

The only chance they have is to pick up some of the more experienced furloughed guys from US and EU by dumping the more restrictive requirements and provide the training.

I'm also interest in hearing from anyone who has been through the screening and testing process at Turkish Airlines in the last month or so.
I noted that there is a written exam, plus two days of sim checks. Just want to know what to study and what anyone's experiences have been.

I would apprecciate some information about A320 roster pattern like kind of flights, how many days at home etc...
Tks in advance!

Whats with the MINIMUM age requirement of 37 for the NG?? Never heard of that before.

Line Captain
Turkish Airlines will pay directly to the Captain each month a basic salary of (Turkish
Lira) TL17, 551.88 (approx €8,570 / USD 11,552) gross of Turkish taxes.
Instructors & Examiners
An additional allowance of TL2, 290.00 (approx € 1,118 / USD 1,507) gross of
Turkish taxes
Ground Training Instructors
An additional allowance of TL1, 603.00 (€783 / USD1,054) gross of Turkish taxes

A bonus amount of TL7, 140.00 (€3,485 / USD4,695) shall be payable in the months
of March / June / September / December each year on assignment.
A travel allowance of TL33.00 (€16 / USD21) per day will be applicable within
Turkey and TL50 (€24 / USD32) for Turkish Northern Republic and Cyprus. Travel
allowances for other destinations may vary and will be advised by Turkish Airlines.
If the Pilot flies in excess of 70 block hours in a given month they shall be entitled to
receive an additional overtime payment of TL154.03 (€75 / USD100) per hour.
An additional special hourly rate shall be applicable if the Pilot flies on Turkish
religious and national holidays or on Sundays.
To calculate Net Pay (i.e. after taxes), approximately 95% of gross salary is paid to
the Pilot.
Pilots will be entitled to 18 days annual leave for the first year of service, increasing
to 24 days annual leave for 5 years of service.
Turkish Airlines will provide accommodation and transport for the duration of the
assignment.
Alternatively an accommodation allowance of TL 2,000.00 (€976 / USD 1,316) will
be provided for rental of a property in Istanbul.
Turkish Airlines will schedule Pilots on a roster pattern 3 weeks on and one week off.
Loss of License Insurance will also be provided by Turkish Airlines in accordance
with the local company policy and procedures.
Minimum Requirements – B777 Line Captains:
Current B777 type rating endorsement
English Speaker. ICAO Standard 5 is required however 4 will be considered
JAA /ICAO/ FAA ATPL (A)
Must be a current Commander/Captain
Captains – 11, 000 hours total time. 1,000 hours Captain on type plus another 500 on
other Boeing wide body . 6,000 hours multi engine jet MTOW of 50 tonnes or greater
Age limit max. 60

Is there any expat flying for THY that can really enlighten this smoky THY hiring requirement?

A320 Selection Process.
SIM ride :
- normal T/O , steep turns without FD bothin climb and descend.
radar vectors and raw data approach landing
_ 2° T/O eng out at V1 eng Out SID, meteo below minima, decision, radar vector ILS .
Single engine Go Around at minima and Visual circuit turning on base remaining engine fire land and emergency evacuation.

TECH EXAM:
ATPL questions mainly taken from ACE

INTERVIEW:
be ready to relocate in Istanbul and show you are enthusiastic and sure about it otherwise they won't select you, don't ask for commuting options.

Hi everybody, I was looking for applying in their website but vacancy are not over there.

Where are you applying for.?

:ok:

Try on Contractair, Parc Aviation, Sigma Aviation, Wynnwith and many other recruiting agencies.

A320 Roster Pattern
 

Hi, is anybody flying A320?
I would appreciate some information about A320 roster pattern like destinations, overnights, average days off etc...
Is there any house allowance for this fleet???
Tks a lot!:ok:

Ahad Adump thanks for these details, you do not even want to read the 737 offer.... which is not even close to what you mention here.

moondriver check your PM

Would greatly appreciate it if someone can PM me the contract details for F/O on the 737.

Are they really hiring or:

like i read here
"candidates are being used as pawns in a political game between the airline, unions, and possibly the government"??

I am looking for an A320 FO job, if anyone has gone through the interview process I would really appreciate any info that might help. Did you get hired? How's the schedule on the A320 fleet? Read that the Ace is good for the tech test, is it true?

Thanks

Considering they started interviewing back in Jan/Feb 2009 ! ! and seem to have done so constantly since then, & in addition advertised through every agency possible, isn't it just a little strange that NOBODY comes on here and tells us what it is like after you join.
Either you have to sign a secrecy clause with the contract. . or ? nobody got a contract.

THY did not start the courses before end of 2009. Presently about 35 expats on course, some released. It is a very big system, which do not work from day to day.
Though it is improving. A lot are failing the tests.

I'd like to add my name to the list of people wondering as to the hiring process and evaluation for the expatriate contracts. If anybody could shed some light on the rumored political goings-on involved, that would also be greatly appreciated. If anybody in the know would reply or PM, I would be greatly appreciative.

Wasinc are not cleared by THY to hire pilots.
Accomodation and transport info are also wrong.

Which agency is cleared to hire pilots by THY?

thanks

Glad to see this thread in Middle East forum rather than Europe.

THY
 

No agencies can hire for THY. They can only screen and refer candidates who qualify. The agencies get a finders fee. You can use PARC, Sigma, WASINC or who ever else there is, it does not matter. Choose the one who gets you the interview. If you succeed you will sign a contract directly with THY. The agencies have nothing to do with you after you sign, so if they lied or misinformed you to get your business you have NO recourse. The agencies wash their hands of you. For each aircraft the contract is the same. It appears that Sigma and WASINC add the quarterly bonus twice in the info package and are incorrect. Many terms in their info package are not in the THY contract. Many of the items mentioned are part of THY company policy like vacation days and non paid leave etc that every THY employee receives. Parc appears to be more correct in the info package. All these recruiters have the same pool of pilots. To me the qualifications are a dream list. I don't believe THY will find that many qualifying pilots who will leave their current jobs and they will alter their minimum qualifications as the pool dries up.

Any news yet?

If you join THY you will be out of a job once your one year "agreement" is finished. THY is unionised and the only way an expat can get hired there is by agreement from the union. Once the training backlog for THYs expansion is complete you will be on the street lookin for work.
Only go to THY if you are unemployed.

THY F/U
 

You clearly dont know what is the reality! They are so short of Pilots that they cannot possibly get rid of anyboy at present.
The system is totally F.....d U. but they are very nice people.
Dont expect to see the contract adhered toooooo
Rgds
Alt

Contract is directly with THY, not through agencies.

Any ideas of the assessment of Turkish?
 

Any ideas of how is the assessment? what are they asking? sim, interview, technical?
Thank you

I worked as a B-727 Capt for Istanbul Airlines (now defunct) in 1993 and 94...

The Turks are great people, the aviation system is first rate, and life in Turkey is very nice...

I don't know about now, but if offered an opportunity I would return there in a heartbeat, even if only for a year...

Baki, Zeki, Orhan, Mete, Alev and the rest of the gang....hello from SW Fla...

Roster on 737; 5 on 2 off, 6 on 1 off.

Anybody Knows The Screening Process F/o Airbus 320 Turkish Airlines? In Which Consists Of?

THY q&a's
 

Hey guys,

I am a THY captain, currently resigning for flydubai. Let me try to answer your questions about rosters, accomodation, and so on...

You are going to have 7 days off a month. Most probably, 2 double off-days consequtive, remaining 3 single. The duty-time is 14 hours and the company chooses to plan 4 legs of flight with almost 14 hours of duty-time. That is you fly a domestic route, come back to Ist, hang around a couple of hours, do another domestic route, or a short international route. After that 14 hours, you are going to have rest for 12 hours and go for anouther round next day. In another case, 5-days of stay-over in domestic destinations, ( I mean not riviera destionations like Antalya, or Izmir, or Bodrum, but eastern inland destionations, like Ankara, Diyarbakir, almost nothing to do) with 4 leg of flights a day. It is very tiring...

Istanbul is a brilliant city, but very crowded, traffic is a jam 24 hours a day.

I have no idea about the selection process. But I can assure the sim selection is done in a subjective manner...

Details on request.

Have fun...