A320
 

Hi all
Any new hiring for A320 Captains at Amiri planned?

Qatar Amiri Flight Recruitment
 

I believe all recruitment is on hold until the transition is sorted out. Others may have different information but I believe that to be correct.

Qatar Amiri Flight Recruitment
 

Hi guys, is there any news on the recruitment front? What are the possible effects
For the pilots contract under the new mgmt.
thanks

Qatar Amiri Flight Recruitment
 

I thought recruitment was on hold, do u know if these guys joined recently and left thereafter or were they guys in the company that left after the new mgmt changeover.

Confirming what Oceanic815 wrote recently, I believe that recruiting is still on hold while the management transition is in place.

It is true that there have been some departures from the Amiri Flight over the course of the last six months. These have been amongst what I would term "recent joiners". Reasons have been varied but the 24/7 on-call lifestyle and lifestyle in Doha have been issues for some.

As far as I know, the departures are not attributable to the management changeover at all.

Qatar Amiri Flight Recruitment
 

Hi 3030N, what do u mean by saying when a new guy gets to Doha,something is wrong ?
Change of terms than promised ?or training delays or issues? Or housing or admin related ?
Amiri01 how's things now with the transition to new mgmt? When do u reckon they will open doors again ?

Hi 3030,

There has always been a certain lack of guidance/support for new joiners and I would agree that this area could be improved. I know a lot of guys turn up to do their observation sectors without ever having been shown over the airport office, Amiri Terminal etc.. The induction process could certainly be more comprehensive, structured and perhaps be more personal.

If there are any other issues that really should be addressed, could you pm me and I will communicate the suggestions to management. Hopefully your feedback can help to improve the process for subsequent new joiners, if anyone will act on the suggestions that is!

Pilot Talk, wrt the management transition, I have seen no discernible change in management. All executive and middle level management are still in place. There might be a new boss at the top, but there have been no obvious changes in the Flight Ops department that I have seen. However, others who are more closely associated with office work may have noticed changes.

That's not to say that there havent been any changes, it's just that I haven't observed them...

It would be good to hear the perspective of guys that have been here only a short time. It could be that having been here so long, I might have a bit of ambivalence about things that might grate someone who hasn't been here long.

As for when the doors will open again, it's anyone's guess. With the intro of the B748s pending, something will have to happen soon to meet the crewing obligations for the new aircraft.

Qatar Amiri Flight Recruitment
 

Thanks Amiri for sharing info,it seems that the transition to Qr mgmt is taking longer than anticipated. There may be some insider opposition to the same which is normal,thus preventing the complete changeover.
With the summer months approaching and historically the utilisation of the fleet generally heads north,so going by that they should complete the mgmt transition process and start recruiting again to complete the "all captain fleet " if they have not and lower night outs/reduce hours/increase choice of annual leave etc for the guys already in the system. They started this process early last year in 2012 and it still seems they are looking for suitable candidates,as it appears in the various recruitment websites.

Tailwinds and blue skies

Just my two cents but if you are unhappy about something you should speak up. I've always operated under the belief that you have no right to complain if you don't make your voice heard.

Personally I'm quite happy here and for me it's the best job I've ever had in three countries. Having said that what works for me doesn't necessarily work for the next person. Everyone has to try to find a company that is best suited for them. Just because someone dislikes a company or leaves doesn't make it a bad company or a bad fit for you.

Cheers...

Great post. Thanks Oceanic.

You're right, 3030, you never used the word "unhappy". My apologies. I was addressing your statement with a broad stroke that "something was wrong."

As far as me being "totally wrong" my wife tells me that at least once a day so no worries there... :)

Qatar Amiri Flight Recruitment
 

Hi Friends ....what's news ,it's very quiet. I guess it's going well with the new mgmt in place and figure no changes in conditions yet .

Any news on hiring?
 

Any news for hiring on A330 fleet?

help- info
 

hi- I'm Athena from Greece..

I'm looking for info about Amiri flight, I wanna apply..

Do you know company's policy- or any rules??

Waiting for your reply!!

Anyone able to direct me. TRI/E on the 747-8, couple of years as training captain on type. Looking for work as of the end of April. Anyone know if the royal flight going to be after -8 trainers?

firoz
 

is there any vacancy for aeronautical engineers.

Last i heard not all good in AF,some pilot were sacked and most European manager have left. Also staff not being paid bonus for last 2 years.:suspect:

No comment

Qatar Amiri Flight Recruitment
 

Job board on career-aero website now advertising for B747-800 Captains

Stagnate or deterioration of T&C's, change of guard and 24/7 on call roosters, make this outfit most undesirable.

24/7 standby and recently introduced random alcohol testing at sign on makes this job not for every man. :{

Great Zeus's beard ! That sounds appalling. What exactly is the purpose of these Roosters, and why are they on call 24/7 ?

Do they attack, or are they simply used as a deterrent ? Stay safe out there. All of you.

During my interview in Frankfurt, this was one of my questions.

"With a fleet of this size and type of on demand operations and staffing levels, why the need" and "what is the call out time"

Never really received an answer, other than call out time is 2hrs! and if you cannot handle it do not come.

I would venture that not unlike Qatar and many operations throughout the M.E.
it comes down to plan and simple " servitude" and your willingness to accept such horrid terms.

Qatar Amiri Flight Recruitment
 

"Change of guard, change of management"? We've been hearing about that since 2012. Why so long? What's the problem/issue?

I can tell you from my contact there that all is not well at AF. The crazy man from QR is now in charge and it look like he is determined to get rid of most of the staff there, the ones that left QR when Amiri separated anyway. No pay rise or bonus for 3 years! Join AF at your peril...you've been warned. :suspect:

So…after a sufficient amount of quiet here, does anyone have anything to add to the bits already reported? Salary? Allowances? Roster? Thanks...

The roster is as follows: you have 6 weeks annual leave. At all other times, you are on 24/7 call.

Typically, a pilot will receive an sms the day before a flight (very rarely earlier) notifying him of the flight. Occasionally, there is a scramble where you have to get to the airport within 2 hours, but this is generally only once or twice a year.

The schedule is not fixed, it is dictated by the passenger. You might receive a flight notification to take pax to point A, wait for them for 2 hours then return to origin. You will sit on the aircraft at point A waiting for your pax and after 2 hours, they haven't turned up. After 6 hours, they still haven't turned up, and then after 8 hours, they turn up and you take them home.

Alternatively, you fly pax 6 hours to their destination, and make your way to your hotel. Just as you rip your kit off to relax, you get a call to return to the aircraft and do another 2 hour sector...

If you cannot adapt to this type of operation, don't waste your time applying. You would only be unhappy. If you want a roster, don't apply. If you want to commute, don't apply. If you want to be able to pop down to Dubai for a weekend, don't apply. If you will get upset when you cannot be available for a dinner party that you have organised, don't apply.

You (and your family) need to be flexible to maintain your sanity in this type of operation.

As for salary, allowances and conditions, I can't say what they are but I can say that they have not changed since the Lufthansa management left a few years ago (either up nor down).

You also need a significant amount of tolerance to survive living in Doha. The traffic is still crazy and if you have school aged kids where you will be spending lots of time on the road doing school runs, that will grind you and the missus down.

Recruiting onto the Airbus is not happening at the moment as far as I know. Recruiting is underway (still) for the B748s with the first intake having just been accepted.

So, is Amiri a bad place to be? There are certainly some pilots who don't enjoy it, but there are many who are either ambivalent or even happy with it. They put up with the uncertainty associated with the operation but generally enjoy the varied destinations and ad-hoc nature of the operation. I know that my immediate colleagues are quite happy to be here. I know some on the Airbus fleet who really enjoy the job but I know of a few who don't. It's like anywhere really. There will be some that enjoy it and some that don't. There are upsides, there are downsides. There are better jobs, there are certainly worse jobs. It's up to the individual whether this job is for them or not.

Just as a reminder, copilots are not recruited and Captains will need at least 8000 hours total including at least 5000 in command so if you don't have these hours, please don't pm me to ask if you would be accepted. My answer will be "highly unlikely".

Cheers,

Amiri01

Dear Amiri1 thanks for all that info, may I ask a couple more questions:
Base in your experience, can you split vacation and come back home two times a year?
They are looking for 744-8, I have plenty of time but not on the 74, are the flexible? Should I apply anyway?
Is true that salaries are 50% over main Qatar airways?

Edited...........

Inside sorce says contracts all changed now, lots of engineers looking elsewhere, cabin crew will probably all leave, pilots too. Overnight they took away all previously agreed travel benefits. Everyone being put on Qatar Airways contracts in the near future. Equals about a 40% pay cut for everyone. Not a happy camp at all

Current T&Cs @Qatar Executive
 

Can any of you kind souls in the know indicate what the current T&Cs are at Qatar executive.
I have been invited to interview but to be honest I would like to have a general idea of what the 'roster' would be like & what I could expect as a net package (salary, housing, Insurance)
I want to make an educated decision since I do not want to waste their time or resources if it is not acceptable to me.
Please PM if you prefer.
Thanks
:ok:

Just to clarify ..
 

To stop any confusion, can someone please verify, that Amiri Flight and Qatar Executive, are not the same company?

And this thread is about Amiri Flight, and any reference to Qatar Exec is specific to Qatar Exec ??

I confirm. Qatar Amiri Flight and Qatar Executive are two totally separate entities.

Qatar Amiri Flight Recruitment
 

Amiri01
Are you able to comment on the other posts regarding deterioration of contracts, pay and benefits and employee retention?

Latest news is they sacked chief pilot after a very lengthy service, apparently he had to be out of the country the same week, thank for everything. He was replaced by a local of course. Per Diem's are next on the hit list. Word has it they've stopped OT payments to Ops staff yet they are massively understaffed, so now they work extra hours for free, some of them 30-40 hours a month!! On a more positive note, QR has been so generous and offer all staff 10 ID tickets, but that's yet to be confirmed.

Amiri Flight
 

still working for amiri flight?I am about to apply for a Global Express Capt position.Do you know update package?Thanks

Any updates?

The company intends to split sometime this year, only 5 planes remain with Amiri and the rest go to Qatar Executive. Apparently some staff going to QE also, probably more stability some are saying. From what i heard no bonuses are being paid or increments and many staff still doing many hours overtime.:sad:

Which aircrafts are remaining with Amiri?

I believe the one 747, two 330's, one 320 and one 340. Not confirmed though.:ok: