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Birdy1062 20th May 2012 11:10

I have a friend flying in DOH and he has APPM temporary & definitive LOL, so it shouldn't be a problem.:ok:

buzzbuzzz 21st May 2012 19:06

What do u think ?
 
Hi hope your all ok. i just got a call from a recruitment agency for Amiri but i don't have the 8000Hrs nor the 3000Hrs PIC . But i have 7000Hrs on A319/320/321/332/343/345 as an F/O with 1500 PIC on the A320/321. last flight as a PIC 20/05/2012 last medical 18/05/2012 last PPC 29/03/2012.
I'm flying now for a privet owned airline we fly around 60Hrs per month with a very good pay (around 17000$ pre month) . but I'm thinking of relocating out of cairo. What i want to know ,
1.Is living in Doha with kids safe ?
2.Will Amiri process my application with out meeting the min requirement ?
3.Are the pilots working in Amiri HAPPY ?
I have no problem working on a stand-by roster or with the idea of relocating the question is where too ?
Many thanks in advance and looking foreword for ur replay :)

Amiri01 22nd May 2012 01:03

Buzzbuzz:

1. Very safe for family and kids. Way better than Cairo.
2. In the past, when some have applied through Interpersonal (the main recruitment agency for Amiri), candidates have been rejected outright if they did not meet the minimum requirements. Right now, I couldn't say what the policy is, you would do well to phone Interpersonal who do the screening for us and ask them directly (then post here so everyone knows).
3. I think this has been answered in previous posts in this thread. I personally am happy to be part of this operation and I believe that in general, my colleagues are also. For the last 6 years, I believe that there have only been retirements, with maybe one resignation from someone who was approaching retirement. This is probably a reflection of how the pilots feel about the job.

Cheers,

Amiri01

condorbaaz 22nd May 2012 11:31

amiri01,

VERY informative and encouraging posts.

I have just begun the process with an agent for a VVIP Op which I hope will be amiri. for the A330..I meet all the QRs..Though Interpersonal did not like me the first time in 2010..

Hope to make it..

jimmyg 22nd May 2012 14:48

Is Interpersonal still doing the interview assessment?

If so what is the format?

Has anyone been called for an assessment date?

igig 22nd May 2012 15:11

Amiri01

You mention that the A320 guys fly approx 30-40 hours per months. Typically what would that look like with respect to days away from base. I understand that it a difficult question given how varied the possible trip itineraries.

tknapp 22nd May 2012 17:43

I had one scheduled for the end of May but I'm unable to attend to to my work schedule. They moved mine to the end of June now. Seems like the company is very willing to work with you.

Amiri01 22nd May 2012 19:56

Interpersonal are still doing the screening in Frankfurt.

Screening consists of (as far as I know) a tech test, psychometric testing and if successful with those, a sim check with Amiri pilots and finally, if you get through those then an interview with Amiri management.

The flying rate on the A320 consists of (and here I am estimating) perhaps on average 4 or 5 overnights and a few day trips per month. Of course, one month you may do a 2 week tour of the US or Asia then next month you may get two Riyadh trips but on average, what I said. Some individuals get to fly more and some less. It's the luck of the draw.

Cheers,

Amiri01

jaloja 23rd May 2012 15:00

Dear Amiri01

Thanks in advance.
In advance I do not mind being on standby for 24 days but I would like keep my family at home and donīt taking them to Doha.
Do you think that with 24/7, 7 days together, and if at this time, I can travel home, keeping the family in my country?.

Jal.

crazy_max 23rd May 2012 16:35

My dear Joloja...........I think you misunderstood what 24/7 means. It means you are on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. No, you won't be able to commute, you can leave your family back home of you chose to do so, and you will only see them when you are on leave. Amiri, please correct me if I am wrong.

jaloja 23rd May 2012 18:17

Dear Crazy Max.

Thanks for your clarification.

Best regards

Enecosse 23rd May 2012 21:23

The assessment consists of 8, or thereabouts, computer tests, english (if required), maths, co-ordination, comprehension, did you enjoy tying fire crackers to cats tails etc.
Sim ride, basically a raw data, hand flown LPC. Group exercise, head shrink exercise, stand-up presentation to a panel, interview to about 10 people.
This takes 2 days, you can be binned on the first day.
HR do a presentation on the company and answer any questions, lunch with FOD and CP, drinking beer not recommended. I think thats all.

Amiri01 24th May 2012 02:15

Max, spot on and Enecosse, thank for the heads up about the screening process. Now I know (I'm glad I didn't have to go through that)!

Cheers,

Amiri01

igig 26th May 2012 01:36

Enecosse, I'm not familiar with the abbr. LPC? (Wrong side of the Atlantic, I guess.)

jimmyg 26th May 2012 01:44

LPC/LST (Licence Proficiency Check/Skills Test)

Enecosse 26th May 2012 10:59

The sim ride, was in a B744, the first officer was played by a Lufty TRE as a competent but lacking in initiative FO. The check TRE ran the sim.
Take off, SID, steep turns, track to a beacon and take up the hold, track away from beacon and let down for non precision approach, go around, engine failure (fire) on go around, (as thrust levers advanced), fly go around, carry out drills, radar vectors to an ILS and land. If I remember airfield used was Stuttgart. I think that was all.

No FD, ASEL, AP, FMS or AT.

The first approach was procedural.

Comanche 26th May 2012 23:14

Last time I did a raw data holding was about 14 years ago for my CPL, better have a look at my ATPL notes then. I thought the emphasis would be more on management skills, making use of automatics or the very least FD's to free up brain capacity, or leave the flying to the FO. That's my company's philosophy anyway for skippers (apart from the occasional raw data ILS), not complaining but I'd better practice some manual flying on my next sectors this week to brush up. Good luck to all those attending the selection.

granmabaker 27th May 2012 02:42

Amiri Interview
 
Dear Enecosse,
I am going for the screening this month end.Could you clarify the interview process.What do they ask? Whats a stand up presentation? Does it pertain to an aircraft system?How long is it expected to be?
Thanking you,
regards,
Granmabaker

Enecosse 27th May 2012 08:31

The sim check is I believe not so much a test of flying ability, although that is obviously a factor. It is designed I think to provide a level of stress and see how an individual deals with it. I just talked alot.

The interview is straight forward no trick questions or scenario's, in fact probably the easiest part of the process.

Stand up presentation involved standing in front of a panel (about 8 people), talk for 15 maybe 20 minutes about a) yourself, b) your experience and c) why you want to join

jimmyg 27th May 2012 09:08

About how many 320 folks are they looking to add?

igig 27th May 2012 12:40

Good luck Enecosse

condorbaaz 12th Jun 2012 22:07

Any screening in Jun?
 
Hi
Anybody going for screening in Jun or Jul?

tknapp 13th Jun 2012 00:03

I'm going June 26th. Does anyone have any gouge on the ATP test?
Thanks

igig 13th Jun 2012 00:57

Knew about the Jun dates. When are the July dates?

jimmyg 13th Jun 2012 01:32

Will also be there on the 26th. Any interview info would be kindly appreciated.

condorbaaz 13th Jun 2012 09:11

July dates prob be decided by end next week

tknapp 13th Jun 2012 17:18

Has anyone been hired from the May assessment?

Amiri01 14th Jun 2012 06:03

The May screening was very successful with quite a number being given the nod.

I believe that pilot numbers are now getting close to what is required so recruiting could possibly slow down after the end of June screening.

However, things can change suddenly over here so the requirement for pilots is always in a state of flux.

Cheers,

Amiri01

Comanche 14th Jun 2012 07:29

Amiri01, does that mean it will be more difficult to be successful during the June session as numbers are getting close to what's required. From what I understood, the May session had 25 pilots while the June session will have 36 applicants. If they only need a few more, they can cherry pick from the remaining applicants. Makes me wish I had applied a few weeks before I did as chances would have been higher.

Amiri01 14th Jun 2012 12:50

Hi Commanche,

I honestly don't know exactly how many more we need. I just know that we need more but we are probably not too far off the required numbers (for now).

It wouldn't surprise me that if there are many candidates that are assessed as suitable from the June screening that the required number get firm offers and the remaining suitable candidates are retained on file to be offered jobs as vacancies arise.

Please be aware that I am not "in the know" with respect to manning issues and I am only going on what I have overheard while in the office. I could be incorrect in my interpretation of the situation but knowing the (current) fleet size and approximating the needs, I understand we are close to the required numbers.

Perhaps the recruiting company can enlighten anyone further regarding numbers.

Sorry I can't be more specific...

Cheers,

Amiri01

Enecosse 14th Jun 2012 15:48

The job advert provides alot of the info of what is required. Team player blah blah, once you take that on board and present yourself that way I would say you are 50% there.

The final interview is very straight forward, no difficult questions relatively short. I was over prepared, on Qatar history, Shamal winds, expected technical questions on previous type, a tell me about a time...... question etc, there was none. By the way if the above are asked, well tough.

The PC base questions are all available online, just need to Google for gouges with Emirates, Cathay etc. If not to good with math(s) then a bit of practice would be good. There are various books on speed math(s).

Important:- The tests are quick, DO NOT get bogged down trying to decide the right answer. Take a guess and move on. SOME tests allow you to go back and review, make sure you know how to do that and if in that particular test you can. There is no penalty for wrong answers.

To be honest it is quite a tough test, reread my first para, get your head sorted on how you can show that, the rest you either have or don't, you can only try and do your best.

condorbaaz 19th Jun 2012 21:20

heard next screening is early aug..any headw up on that?

pampa1 22nd Jun 2012 16:12

Hi Enecosse,

Did you get technical quiz regarding your present type?:)thanks

Enecosse 24th Jun 2012 06:25

No I did not

Gforce777 29th Jun 2012 11:25

Lufthansa management
 
Amiri01

We've been told that the Lufthansa management team have been dismissed by the Royal Family and that management will revert to Qatar Airways. Is this correct? I was just about to sign on the dotted line and this would be a big stopper as Qatar Airways Ts and Cs are woeful.

No one has responded to my emails in the Amiri office.

For anyone else interested in Amiri, you may want to look into this as well.

GF

Enecosse 1st Jul 2012 12:57

We are still waiting the official announcement. What you have said would appear to be correct, just substitute QA with QE. I wouldn't worry about signing and being committed as until probation period up only a weeks notice required by either party.

Iver 1st Jul 2012 15:27

Any "public" information on new aircraft types beyond the new 747-800? Any VIP 787s or A350s on order? I presume they would hire pilots with time on type.

mutt 1st Jul 2012 15:34


I presume they would hire pilots with time on type.
Why?? Much easier to train someone to fly a new aircraft than to hire the right person.... :)

Mutt

Comanche 1st Jul 2012 22:26

I also heard that the German management team have been dismissed, which is a great concern to me. It shows the environment there is dynamic (unstable). Package on offer is decent, but not sure what the management change will mean to the pilots as far as company culture and t&c's. Would like some more certainty about this. I was under the impression the Germans were doing a good job. Watch this space.

Amiri01 2nd Jul 2012 15:56

At this point in time, I cannot add to what anyone here has said or hypothesised. While this is a rumour network, I prefer to stick as closely to facts as possible, alternatively, I express my personal opinion about things.

As far as I know, there have been no official communications at work about any changes to the organisation. That said, as is witnessed by posts on this thread and another about Qatar Executive, rumours are rife.

WRT to statements made about our current management, I personally feel that they have done a creditable job. The operation as a whole has a much better structure, organisation, processes and procedures than when we first separated from QR. On a personal level, generally, there has been an improvement in our T&C's.

Should there be any truth to the rumours, time will tell what the repercussions will be for us employees. These could range from no changes at all, other than new bosses in some of the seats, to significant changes that could cause employees to question their desire to be a part of a new organisation.

I am not going to hypothesise about what is going on at the moment. As soon as I hear anything concrete that might benefit those who have been successful at interview and are waiting a start date and are concerned about the move, as well as potential future applicants, I will post what I can at the earliest opportunity.

As for any other types, there are no "public" announcements about any additional aircraft or types. (Personally, I'd like to see 10 Aerion SSBJs materialise!!:)). However, the purchase of new aircraft can happen here with very little notice so who knows what is in the pipeline...

Anyway, if there are to be any changes then hopefully some clarification of those changes will be forthcoming so everyone can plan accordingly.

Cheers,

Amiri01


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