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Fubaliera 16th Apr 2009 14:10

Genteleman
This bidding system is for our entertainment only. the only way on earth that a bidding system will really work if its based on seniority. But that will never happen. This is simply a gloried monthly wish list. If bidding is based on seniority. rostering will lose thier power but if they had any brains they know it would make thier life simplier. On the 300,320.340.777 its not gonna be very helpful eithier at least for Flight deck crew. cabin crew diffrent story.

shneidertrophy 16th Apr 2009 14:50

LOC,


do not give away all our tricks please!

Thanks:ok:

Anyway, from previous experience with the same system I can tell you that the only ways these systems work properly are:

1) There actually is a surplus of crew

2) With a rotating seniority system

None of these conditions are fullfilled in QR so expect to see the system crash, certainly for flightdeck, on the first run!

I guess the great P.M. is not that all-knowing after all. Or maybe he is, and he did this on purpose!:mad:

loc22550 17th Apr 2009 07:54

Don't worry Shneider...:)I personnaly already bid for a CLC flight every month, i'm sure nobody else will take it...:\
(still wondering what is the most dangerous part there: the airport or the 45' drive to the hotel...:uhoh:).

shneidertrophy 17th Apr 2009 09:11

If the ride to the hotel still is what it used to be, I would say for sure the ride in the TATA bus via the mountains!

NERVE WRECKING!

That is if the Capt of the flight is not one of our idiots sticking blindly to the SOPS and landing with AB LO / IDLE reverse!

In the last case...I would say the flight is much more dangerous, and that says something!

loc22550 18th Apr 2009 08:39

No change in the bus ride..., the small TAta bus,so small you might have to use the front seat that doesn't have seat belt...on those small ZIG-ZAG road (sometime foggy), with a driver that overtake while turning,crossing the continious line,and keep using high light,just to make sure he blinds the opposite incoming traffic...incredible india!:ouch:

JungleJett 19th Apr 2009 06:43

CLC
 
I can't wait for that f:mad: flight to become a turn around. I'd rather look like a zombie and dead tired after 8+ hours of flight dealing with f:mad: Mumbai Mumbai Mumbai on HF than riding the f:mad: bus to the f:mad: hotel with those brainless f...s behind the wheels.

flyhigh7078 19th Apr 2009 08:06

QR operating to CLC ?

loc22550 19th Apr 2009 09:05

yes....and daily!:uhoh:

Junglejett:You forgot to mention this F:mad: horn noise every 15 seconds!!

cabinsecured 19th Apr 2009 10:27

news from my malaysian friends...another capt jump shiped....from malaysia .i think to air asia.

Spirit1 19th Apr 2009 11:01

And the latest news is that only a few pilot will join from Singapore… :D

flyhigh7078 19th Apr 2009 11:22

could have sworn CLC is Clear Lake City, TX.... fm your posts it sounded like an Indian destination..

loc22550 19th Apr 2009 11:43

CLC=Calicut or Kozhikode (south west of india).

Fubaliera 19th Apr 2009 13:56

I heard all the Jetairways guys got shafted and sent to the 320.

Ronaldo 330 19th Apr 2009 17:00

A320
 
Yea all Jetairways pilots will get A320 and senior A320 pilot will make deserved move to A330 and B777 ha ha ( last A320 Capt who got tranfered to w/b was 3 y 4 months on A320 )
Its use to be max 2 y before but with excelent management on A320 it become 3,4

Fubaliera 19th Apr 2009 20:12

We like it or not, positive things are happening. 9 Capt from A330 to 777, Jetairways guys to 320, looks like new management doing the correct thing regardless of budget. Will see what happens next . Lets hope for the best

shneidertrophy 20th Apr 2009 10:42

Not too fast Sherlock!

Maybe things are getting better for the people on the A330, who have always been the lucky bastards anyway.

But if you are an A320 pilot nothing will move in the nearby future. Yes, the Jetairways people will be shafted on the Babybus but lets see how many will actually come over when they find out about this news.

And how many will stay longterm?

Senior Captains A320 who where about to move to the 777 have been put back on A320 last week due to shortage! And A320 will expand by another 10 (20 new= 10 replacement+10 expansion) airplanes, making it the biggest fleet in QR for a while!

Chief has said specifically all A320 have to stay in the air, as the A320 is the money maker for the airline nowadays!

Strange to see that while corporate managers puts all this importance on the A320, still in technical everybody looks down on the A320 operation. even flight ops management is prone on doing this. Thats probably due to the fact that the A320 is the only fleet without a real management installed. To put it simply: CP is never there! (Praying, sleeping, flying A330)

Strange policy!:mad:

capt.magoo 20th Apr 2009 11:36

Fleet Transfers
 
GENTELMEN,
CONSIDER OURSELVES VERY LUCKY,SOME AIRLINES FREEZE THEIR PILOTS FOR 5 YEARS ON TYPE AND OTHERS FREEZZZZZZZZ YOU PERMENANTLY:ugh:

Fubaliera 20th Apr 2009 12:05

Qr is short of 320 crews because they have no idea how to schedule crews or aircraft.
1. Solution , Make multiple day trips within the gulf or ME region. Instead of ultilizing a crew for a single BAH, DUB, MUSCAT etc, they could do 3+2+3 Day 0ne Doh-bah-doh-Ath Day 2 Ath -doh-Abu-Day 3Abu-doh-amm-doh.
2. Solution 2. very unpopular but possible. CCQ A330/320

shneidertrophy 20th Apr 2009 14:02

Magoo, did not know you where aspiring a job in management? You just sound like them! You should compare apples with apples mate.

Fubalera, can I have your email address please so my wife can contact you and you can explain her what the F&%$ you would want us to do?

On the other hand, if they would make this a bidding option in CARMEN it could be an option. Surely some people would not mind being outside Doha the whole time in a 3-2-3 system while others might like to be home more often.

Ooops, I forgot. This solution is too logical and would make too many crew happy! Sorry, nocando...

capt.magoo 20th Apr 2009 14:43

shneidertrophy ,
NOT REALY INTRESTED IN A MANAGERIAL POST,BUT THE TRUTH HURTS,EXCUSE MY SPELLING,
RATHER THAN BEING NEGATIVE ABOUT THINGS WE SHOULD CONFRONT MGNT AND IF NOTHING IS DONE IM SURE THERE ARE MORE JOBS AROUND THE GLOBE FOR ALMOST ALL OF US
BASICALLY GET ON WITH IT...................... M8


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