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NoJoke 15th Mar 2009 19:12

EGGW
 
Thanks for that! Were you wafted here on the wings of a bird of paradise? No Mate I come from Luton airport!!

h3dxb 16th Mar 2009 08:56

I've worked with U guys maintenance wise in the states, and the only comment is: yr company has some strange rules and attitudes, at least I appreciated the cooperation between flightcrew and engineers.
But I also saw a couple of CPT's who were so afraid of making something wrong, nevertheless this was nothing against the cabin crew, never saw more frightend galley mices than there, this is my personal oppinion.
Time to change something I guess .

loc22550 16th Mar 2009 10:32

H3dxb:
Some of them (CPT) are even scared of their own shadow, scared to take extra fuel, scared to be reported,scared when the F/O decides to fly manually, scared to go to toilet without their hat...;)

NewCrewMember 16th Mar 2009 12:45

Hi guys i need help or just reassurance please.

I have a job offer with QR but am getting worried about all these 'rules and regualtions' i keep hearing about. I'm not bothered by being home at 10pm and having to ask permission to leave Doha on days off etc, but i am bothered by suggestions that even when you make the smallest of mistakes (which all new crew do at some point) you get disciplined with written warnings for it. Is this true or an exageration? I would really like to talk to anyone that currently works for QR and you can assure me you are having a fantastic time over there????:rolleyes:

NewCrewMember 16th Mar 2009 15:16

I just know that all cabin crew have to be in our aprtments by 10pm when we are in Qatar but on layovers we can do what we want within reason. Can anyone else advise?

Emma Gemma 16th Mar 2009 18:43

NewCrewMember,

I worked with QR many years ago (2000 to 2003) and many things have changed since. However I'm in touch with some people still working there and they seem to be getting new rules all the time.

People make mistakes. Some managers at QR seem to live in a world where you shouldn't and will punish you for doing so. Punishment would anything between dismissal and demotion. Certain crew have been working in Y (Economy Class) for years because of ridicilous mistakes they made in the past. I remember a certain flight when a girl from South East Asia was offloaded and later dismissed because a certain man came onboard the aircraft, gathered the crew in the galley, did a quiz and this particular girl didn't know the registration of the aircraft.

Their regulations are not only about being home at 10 PM. This is only one of their many written and unwritten regulations you would have to put up with in Qatar.

I don't think you will find any present cabin crew for QR writing here because of fear of being "traced down".

NewCrewMember 16th Mar 2009 18:48

I was beginning to think that you never saw anything on the net from qatar crew because they are probably worried about being hunted down. If you don't mind can i ask why you left, was it because of the rules? I can live with rules but i don't want to be in fear everyday that i may get sacked when i am trying my hardest to be 'perfect crew'

Emma Gemma 16th Mar 2009 18:52

These regulations, being home at ten o'clock at night, didn't really exist when I worked there. I left for many reasons: wanting to return to university, my boyfriend at the time returned home and so did also many of my friends. I had enough and wanted to go home (I did work there for three and a half years!).

NewCrewMember 16th Mar 2009 18:58

God i'm in a pickle i just don't know what to do i'm so scared of waiting till september for EY and them saying they don't want me anymore because of the credit crunch. I think it may be better to go with Qatar at the end of april and at least i will be working as cabin crew. Although i have only heard possitives about EY they are likely to have their down sides as well so maybe i should grin and bear it with QR:ugh:

Emma Gemma 16th Mar 2009 19:13

It's a really tough decision but I would risk waiting for EY as opposed to going to QR. Every airline has its positive and negative sides but I'm certain you'll have a nicer time with EY!

PUPY 199 18th Mar 2009 15:54

Flygulfair
 
Where is Mr Flygulfair ? He promised us somthing better and less censored for freedom of speach but still pending i guess .
Seams to me QA guys are afraid to writte over here .
STBY or TBN

sergino909 21st Mar 2009 15:22

Qatar flight time limitation
 
Dear Cpt,
I just like to know how may hours you can log as pilot if during the flight you rest in a bunk for 50% of whole flight?
Plus, are the hours that you rest in a bunk taken into accout to comply with the 28 days flight duty time limit?
Could happen that you fly up to 140 hours a month but the QAtar CAA just counts those when you are actually at the controlls?
Thanks

Flygulfair 12th Apr 2009 02:16

Hi everyone,

I am so sorry about not getting back to you with the forum.

It has been made now!

It isn't the best looking one yet :ugh: I need to work on it a bit.

you can go to it at:

Qa Black List • Index page

Happy flying!

violet08 12th Apr 2009 10:05

Kudos
 
Nice work FlyGulfAir and contributors. Since no one else (i.e. management) is looking out for us, this info is crucial to our own self preservation and job security. It is unfortunate that we must be concerned with these issues when all any of us want to do, is fly and make money; but sadly, this is an aspect of the company we've joined.

Knowledge is powerful and with a quick scan of a blacklist, we can adjust our interaction with suspect cabin crew to ensure that we do not become the subject of an unwanted report. This is a very good thing. Isolated incidents will always be prevalent, but with time, I believe we will be well served through this forum and future contributions to it.

Mahalo!

Ronaldo 330 14th Apr 2009 10:25

Situation in QA
 
Last 6 months situation is critical :
Resignations /jumpshifts :
3 Jordanian Capt left to Royal Joirdanian
2 Croatian Capt 1 resign 1 (missing in action )both now in Korean Air
1 Costa Rican Capt missing in action lost somwehere in Vietnam jungle
1 Swiss Capt resign and work in Swiss
1 Kuwaiti Capt resign and work in some airline at home
-----------------------------------------------------
F/O :
1 Mexican resign and now with Etihad
1 Brazilian resign now with Etihad
1 Salavadorian missing in action and never say bye
1 Salvadorian resign and now with Watanaya
2 Salvadorians with Air Asia (one resign ,one has fatique)
1 German resign now with Air Aisa
1 Brazilian resigna now with Air Asia
1 Greek missing in action lost in Kuala LCC terminal
2 Indonesians both missing in action somwhere in Kuala L.

A big list for a small airline 67 airplanes is not that big right ?
I use to see 5 star in sky over Doha is that one missing ?

wall-e 14th Apr 2009 11:08

job opportunities
 
... well more job oppotunities for pilots that currently do not have a job!

Ronaldo where did you get these infos? If it is possible to know!thanks

Ronaldo 330 14th Apr 2009 19:11

QR
 
Smart people make a note while stupid try to remember .

shneidertrophy 15th Apr 2009 19:42

All Correct Ronaldo, especially your last comment!

But lets face it man, thanks GOD those Jordanians left!:E


I guess you must be laughing, sitting behind your new desk, while your friend P.M> tries to kick-start his bidding system! They even re-designated a briefing room to "Cafeteria" and the people supposed to brainwash us into using the system are called " ambassadors".

What a load of C&*$

I know bidding systems very very well from previous experience, so I am sure the tricks on how to manipulate systems like this are the same. Lets see if the ambassadors are realy there to guide us through the darkness or if they are there just to feed us BS.

Ill be seeing you all in the cafeteria one of these days...:ugh:

JungleJett 16th Apr 2009 10:48

Good riddance
 
Yep, thank God at least one of those Jordanians left....Border line schyzophrenic....

loc22550 16th Apr 2009 11:13

I'm a little worried about bidding system expecially on ..320!!
320 indeed has only a "couple" of "good" destination and layover..so i guess a lot of people are going to request those flight to escape the tradionnal indian layover or turnaround flight....
So if you don't bid anything, i'm afraid your roster is gone be be worse than before!IMHO that's not the purpose of a bidding system..well wait and see...


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