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mutt 18th Jun 2015 05:13

But so far they haven't placed enough orders to make this happen.

Sky Hooker 18th Jun 2015 05:39

119 Aircraft under Their fleet.
50 Airbus ( 30 A320 neo and 20 A330 regional)
18 777 arriving Next 3 years
8 787 arriving next 3-4 years
And also 3 777 Freighter arriving this year

That's pretty close to 200 aircraft.......I think age is getting to you MUTT:ok:

Captain Partzee 18th Jun 2015 06:27

Could anyone PM me information about Saudi. Like pay scale, family life with kids, school, accommodation ... Thanks!

Sky Hooker 18th Jun 2015 06:50

Mr Partzee
 
It's all been covered before on this forum. Just read through the various posts about Saudia ,and it should give you a good idea what to expect.
Good luck:ok:

mutt 18th Jun 2015 12:47


I think age is getting to you MUTT
Or the heat :):)
But as they are supposed to replace the E170, the leased A320s and some of the older 777's, there is still a big gap :)

polax52 18th Jun 2015 13:43

......not to mention the 744's

mutt 18th Jun 2015 13:45

and the -8's...... :):)

polax52 18th Jun 2015 13:47

The horses mouth said at the May meeting 2025- 195 Aircraft.

I have the copyright on the horses mouth....other rumours will not be tolerated.
We all know that everything in Saudia is entirely transparent and nothing changes on a daily basis.

Sky Hooker 18th Jun 2015 14:07

Once the new Airport is ready a much clearer picture can be expected.
Until then just sit back ,and enjoy the ride:ok:

onitl 20th Jun 2015 06:16

Any chance
 
Total time 10k. Command dash 8 3000k crj command 1400 f28 command 300 hour .. icao atpl possibility to apply

polax52 20th Jun 2015 08:19

Onitl:

I am sorry but I don't think so. The minimum requirements are in the manual which is approved by GACA and therefore law in Saudi Arabia, these minimums apply to foreign applicants and not to locals; clearly this is to address both the issues of requiring experienced Pilots and the other major factor which is Saudiisation.

There are some variations but basically you need:
Minimum total which you have plus:
3000 hours PIC on the Category of aircraft you're applying for.
500 hours glass jet including FMC (PIC if applying for PIC)
Type rated on company aircraft then PIC minimum are 2500 or 2000 dependent on hours on type.

If you don't have that then you will not get any reply from HR. If you do have it then there is a possibility of a reply from HR.

metro301 20th Jun 2015 11:33

Just to expand on Polax's answer. The 3000 pic, must be on AC 35,000-160,000kg for narrow body. They used to have some ability to substitute other command time but that appears to be gone.

Put the application in anyway, it can't hurt and worst case they will just ignore you.

burkster 1st Jul 2015 20:39

Saudia City
 
I grew up in Saudia City and lived there till I was 18, before moving abroad for university. My dad (just retired) used to be a pilot for SV.

Saudi City is a good enough compound with a supermarket, a couple of resturants, pharmacies, coffee shops, sheesha bars. The best part of living there was the recreation facilities, which cannot be found in any other compounds in the city. AFAIR, there were about 10 swimming pools spread across the compound. 2-3 fitness gyms, many tennis/basketball/volleyball courts, and a big baseball field that was always used by the American school's baseball team.

The compound also has 2 taxi companies operating within. You just call them when you need one, they will come to your door and drop you off anywhere you want to go, outside the compound. Even as far as Makkah and Madinah, for those that want to visit the holy sites.

Anything not inside the compound, is always a short taxi ride away. The compound is in a relatively new part of the city that is quite posh. A gazillion restaurants and cafes within a 10km radius of saudia city. The closest beach is about 5km away.

There are all types of houses in saudia city. From studio apartments to 4-bed villas. The female cabin crew is also housed within saudia city.

If you want any more info on living there or Jeddah, in general, let me know. I can help in whatever way I can.

Chocks Away 3rd Jul 2015 09:15

Word around the water bubbler, is that the 787 order has fattened up and the A330 one might also. 787 options confirmed (+8) with 4 more available frames added = 20. Last week after the Paris Airshow I heard that was now 31 but haven't read any announcement/news release, though they do like to keep things quiet :)
Better make some more space around the airport :}

Flyboy_SG 4th Jul 2015 04:25

Hi Fireball

Im waiting too. Didnt get any info yet. Probably due to ramadan.

fireball_23 4th Jul 2015 11:28

Yes most probably. When did you go to Cairo ?

@Burkster : Thanks for the infos !

Flyboy_SG 5th Jul 2015 12:32

saudi Rules
 
I just read on a website that a guardian has to accompany women when they go out in Saudi. They cant go out alone. Is it true? What if my wife wants to work there in an university?

Flying738ng 5th Jul 2015 14:14

She can go with the driver, though this is not written anywhere,

mutt 5th Jul 2015 15:52


What if my wife wants to work there in an university?
She can go anyplace that she likes without you, the website that you read is garbage.

However for working in either a school or university, she might have to be employed on her own working visa.

Flyboy_SG 5th Jul 2015 22:00

Thanks Mutt :D
See you soon.:ok:

polax52 6th Jul 2015 06:59

Realistically though, if your wife expects to have all of the freedoms she'd have in a western country then this is not the place for you. They have their own culture and rules and you need to behave appropriately. It's not difficult but you're not going to change Saudi Arabia.

Flyboy_SG 6th Jul 2015 08:08

Thanks Polax. She is ok with the rules. But where can I get the complete set of latest rules?

Chocks Away 6th Jul 2015 10:17

Where can you get "the complete set of the latest rules?"
Try the Burgis Centre Mall level 4, shop 18e, he's got it on floppy disk, hard drives or can print out for you. Failing that try Mustafa Centre - Syed Alwi Road /Little India. He's sure to have something. :hmm:

Geez mate what are you expecting? The rules haven't changed here for hundreds of years. Read this thread from start to finish. THAT will tell you.

polax52 6th Jul 2015 15:01

What I mean to say is that it's not bad, you just need to be prepared to adapt a little.

and 6th Jul 2015 22:16

A LITTLE....

rdr 7th Jul 2015 09:13

The place is a rule bound one, and most Asians coming here will be able to blend in with the system. The woman here is much more protected, than in many other capitals of Asia.
The place has to be experienced to draw ones own conclusion, rather than speculated on the testimonies of others.

Flyboy_SG 7th Jul 2015 13:36

I have read this thread back to back 'chocks on'. Happened to read a crude article about by a UK journalist dated June. so was concerned a bit, as I have decided to move in.

adel 11th Jul 2015 09:46

Saudia
 
Gentleman,
Im 777 skipper, interested in knowing more about SV. Have tried to find the SV package in pprune but havent been successful to date.
Can any kind soul please direct me toward a relevant link explaining the widebody package.
Many thanks in advance and apologies in advance if its been answered to death.
Happy flying

mothergoose1 13th Jul 2015 00:04

i am on atr and abt to go on the 320s this month,my technical course starts soon inshaaALLAH,i have 1200 on atrs,there is alot of flying on the a320,i will easily make that 750 requirement in a year for the non saudi req.i am a cpl holder.Any chance of me getting a reply from saudia on the 320s after getting those hours.Please reply :)

alloha 13th Jul 2015 10:40

Honestly very few chances. ATR is out of Saudia requirements ?Further more Saudia had a huge assessment in Kuala Lumpur 10 days ago ,due to the future situation in MAS. More than 130 pilots attended it and SV will have a second assessment later in the Summer in Malaysia.

mothergoose1 13th Jul 2015 17:43

even after being a320 rated with 1000 hrs, they also have ordered 50 a330 and a320 ,so maybe i do have a chance;)

alloha 13th Jul 2015 19:09

I wiSh u all the best .FYI so far I haven't seen an expat FO with less than 3000 h jet time. Furthermore some of the new 320's are going to replace the older ones.

mutt 14th Jul 2015 03:41

Mohamed Haider Shah..... your account doesn't accept messages.... All cadets must be Saudi Nationals.

mothergoose1 15th Jul 2015 12:43

@aalloha their requirement is of 750 hours on type 320.and what's the job security like . How do they treat expats on a320 as its the junior most equipment .how are the captains and sim instructors like.basically what arE the things an a320 expat f/o be concerned. Is working for saudia as an expat f/o like having a sword on your head that you can be fired anytime you make a mistake .how is their department like , do they show leniency in case of an error made.

fly9898 15th Jul 2015 16:38

fo 777
 
Want to know about the days off and the salary for fo 777

FO Cokebottle 16th Jul 2015 09:17

mothergoose1 and fly9898,

Just one word......

Really?!? :hmm::ugh:

alloha 16th Jul 2015 10:03

Fly9898. I want a double pepperoni special a ceasar salad and a soda :ugh::ugh:

Mothergoose1 you forgot to ask our appreciation for having You here in the thread. I feel so great full my beloved master :mad::mad:

Chocks Away 16th Jul 2015 18:35

I'll third that motion boys:ok:
Motion passed!
By the way (yuh) 'Goose, your lack of research has shown up as the A320/21 is not the most junior equipment.

omis 16th Jul 2015 20:16

How is the training process now? also during training is the pay just your basic? when do they start to take the money for the bond or have they stopped with the bond scheme?

alloha 16th Jul 2015 20:28

@omis. Training in the A320 a bit faster than the B777 but still lots of oral checks multiple Gaca checks etc. bond is in effect (100.000 SAR) and a 25% is deducted from the first basic salary (only for non type rated pilots) .The 100.000 are refunded on the 24th month of service with a 10% interest.Type rated pilots receive full salary.


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