here is a review for the Saudia Assessment in Cairo.

Written test is a 50 Question paper mix of FAA an the Ace of interview book.One of the pages is repeated .Average difficulty ,some of them very easy some others a bit old and useless (aerodynamics etc). Multiple choice of 3.one of them totally wrong.Then is another 10 Q leaflet with a mix of basic mathematics and psychometrics .Even for me with a terrible relationship with Maths was quite achievable ( i answer 9/10). From what we have been heard they are looking for an average of 60-70% in both papers.You will wait for an hour or so until they have the results.13 out of 14 from my group passed to the interview.
2 boards of five ,you will be picked by one .If you are rated in one of Saudia's type expect lots of Questions on the type .they are extremely calm and polite.if you dont know the answer just say it.they will help you get to the answer.If you are TR interview will last around 45-50 minutes, otherwise 25-30.Non TR pliots expect questions about meteorology atc general knowledge etc etc. They will have a 5 minute break.if u are successful they will congratulate you and welcome you to Saudia. Immediately they will assign you to the 330 (if you are F/O with Airbus experience) or to the B777 (if you are a Boeing guy).If you are a captain without wide body experience then expect ONLY the A320.They are very strict with wide body experience .If you have wide body TR on Boeing you will get the B777,otherwise all the A330/340 are assigned to the A330.

Next day early in the morning they will pick you up for medical check in Egypt Air Med Center . DO FASTEN even if they dont tell you to do so.We were 5 and we spent 4 hours. Usual medical check plus 2 interviews with two different psychologists (very friendly ,nothing to worry about):ok:
Results from urine and blood test will be send to Saudia within the next 10 days ,so they have nothing to do with the Sim check which is the next day

Sim is a formality .Even TR in the 320 you will have the assessment in the 777.basic things. take off from 34L in JED (Wx is 270/10 Cavok) auto pilot and auto thrust ON,some vectors and a FD ILS (they ask you for manual flight before interception but auto thrust still ON with a go around (TR guys had a WS alert at 100 ft) .coming back for the same drill with full stop landing..Take off engine failure .Auto pilot and auto thrust remain on .coming in for landing they will give you some kind of fire that requires an evacuation after landing.They dont want you to fly the sim.they are looking for CRM and situational awareness .Very friendly and relaxed atmosphere in the sim. we were 3 plus the instructor and we were laughing to death.So the hard part is the interview and the exams.

The instructor immediately told us that we have the green light.Then you will have to wait for the Med results.(10-12 days) and they will send you the initial job offer (NOT THE CONTRACT ) along with a visa number . Then its up to the Saudi embassy of your country and the requested documents for issuing the work permit.

Thats it.All in all a pleasant experience with very friendly people in the HR department and the interview board as well.They need pilots desperately but they maintain some standards .From my group 10/13 got a job offer but the very next week it was 3/9 and as i heard the ratio of successful candidates is between 30-45%.

Thanks for all...

Have you seen B777 roster ?

Why do you want a roster? You won't come online for at least 6 months, so the roster will have no relation to what you can expect in the autumn or even next summer.

Dear alloha,

Thanks a lot for the feedback.:ok:

Salary for DEC A-320?
 

Hi!
Whats the average salary for a DEC on the 320 everything included?
Is there any additional perks, ie housing, pension etc...?

Thanks!

Salary for DEC A330
 

Whats the take home salary for DEC A330? :)

Does anyone know the take home salary for a first officer on the 777?

Its kinda unsaid rule, but no one discusses salary on the blog,

Hi guys,
Just want to add up alloha info.
Im one of fo who got interviewed in cairo on 10.03.
No info regarding salary or benefits,but we can find it online,They probably will send it with the results together.
And if you have one free day,please see the pyramids if you havent. Once in a live time experience,but once is more than enough ;)

I don't know if any direct hire FO's have actually qualified on the 777 yet, so it might be hard to get salary information from any source.
As for the 320/330, its and agreement between posters on here that it won't be discussed in a public forum.

10th mar results
 

any news about the results of the assessment in Cairo on the 10 march ?
I mean are they going to call to give results soon ?

Yes, direct hire F/O's have just qualified, those with type ratings though.
As for the money, this must be the least of your concerns if you plan to fly here. Fitting in and clearing your training programme is tops.

Flyboy..... delete it please. If you really feel the need to disclose this information, how about just sending him a PM?

:ugh:
Looks like he's a typical Singaporean...
:ugh:

It's getting better Flyboy, Now just delete the third paragraph.....Thanks.


It looks like Emirates are about to pay out nearly 6 months salary in Profit sharing, I would suggest that the pay there as a result will be significantly more than Saudia pay.

hey thats a really cruel April Fools joke......

Saudia
 

Hi Mutt,

Not fair. Was about to give my Crack at it.
You killed it:ok:

Well, as of yesterday the Emirates guys know what they're getting and there have been no denials from them.


There management are now in fear of hemorrhaging Pilots, with 20 deliveries this year. Despite what some posters think they are not ignorant and nor are they suicidal.

In fear of "haemorrhaging"...
The past tense term "haemorrhaged" would be more apt I believe. They are 400 pilots down from last year already, before considering further employment for growth. Hence their T's & C's have changed in stealth yet again, to overcome crewing shortfalls. The only answer for there is for heads to roll in a major clean out of the management, who actually created their mess. The other ME operators I hope are watching and learning what NOT to do... It's a perfect study case of how to ruin an airline.

Hello Metro301,

Six years ago you mentioned ...
If you don't mind me asking, does your "quote" still aplies in current times?

Regarding the licence, what does it happen? One ends getting a GACA Licence, or a Validation of the licence he currently has?

Thanks :ok:

5 blocked days and a GACA license

Hi Polax52

Many Thanks!!! :ok:

I'm confused, Is this referring to Saudia or Emirates?

EK mutt, not SV. :ok:

Anyone going to Cairo this 14 April?

I am having my screening session this 14th.
Praying harder to join this beautiful airlines.
Amin.

Down to 5 days now on average.

I had it on 14th. Couldn't make it. So rescheduled it to June.
All the best to you guys. Let us know how it went.


Cheers

Thank you Metro301 :ok:

It used to be slightly better some years ago ...

What do you mean with "5 on average"? There are months in which it can be less than 5 days?

Cheers

Thanks to those nice people from Lufthansa Consulting and Sabre Aviation Solutions :(

"Industry Best Practices" my a5se!

If you have a line that goes over into a new month and your days off were 1-5 of that next month, then you will lose some of them.

Check

Thanks for your explanation Mutt :ok:

atpl for first officer
 

Hi Mutt,
Is it required for fo 777 to have atpl ?
Or cpl with time on 320 is enough?
I received the offering contract stated that i need to show atp faa or icao atpl. Its not even stated on their website recruitment.

Thanks
Adwa0001

Strange as i thought that the local authorities would only give you a CPL based on your hired position rather than your actual license.

First thing that you will be doing is ground school for the GACA written exam.

Anyway, cant your unfreeze a EASA ATP with an OPC? (I'm assuming your location means you have a EASA license)

Hi,

Does somebody know about Written Gaca content ? How many questions ? Which score to pass ? I heard that it is the same as FAA (80 questions, 70 percents).
I have a JAA licence and the rules and laws are quite different from FAA.
I wonder if we could find US rules questions during the test, and if Gaca uses the same rules as Faa or has its own.

Flyingbusy, answer to you question will be different today compared to tomorrow, dont worry about it as they give you a week supervised study.

@flyingbusy
 

CPL or ATPL exams should be the least of your concerns (FYI info are copy paste 100% from the GLEIM books ,so is the computer study you will have,GACA test is exactly the same with FAA with 100 Qs,pass rate is 70% but SV will not accept if its not above 80%, you will have a second shot if your score is below 70 ,so far all of the guys score easily more than 90%).You have to worry about the SV pre oral exam on your TR :uhoh: .Then is the the GACA oral exam on your TR :uhoh:.Then is the SV check ride in the sim before the GACA check ride in the sim:uhoh:.Naturally the same goes for line training as well (34 sectors for CPT 22 for FO):ugh::ugh::ugh:.You are still worrying about the CPL or ATPL exam ?:eek:

PS1. First Direct entry FOs on the WB fleet started last July. Since then the numbers are steadily increasing . Since Jan 2015 more than 20 FOs have joined the company.Most of them are coming from Egypt Air as they can keep their seniority for 4-5 years. Keep in mind that SV plans for 80-90 local cadets this year (same with 2014 )

PS2 Last week's assessment in Cairo was very successful as of the 14 who took the written test 13 of them got a job offer after the interview.

FO from Airbus to Boeing
 

In terms of days off and commuting: What is the best fleet for an FO?
After a lot of time in Airbus , is changing to Boeing a good idea or a high risk chance in Saudia?

You need to understand that Saudia does not offer a commuting contract. Some people do try to commute but its not easy, you're only going to get 2-3 days at home for each commute. The A320 is very difficult. The 777 is probably the best option because there is less shorthaul on that fleet than the A330 but on the 330 you fly fewer hours. In any case when they hire you there is no choice offered, you take or leave what you're given.

fleet selction and commuting
 

All FO's are assigned to the WB fleet (except the 747).Even some FOs from the 320 now go to the T7 as the company is not expecting any new 330. All CPTs without WB experience are assigned to the 320 (and it makes sense as there are Saudi CPTs with 8-9 years experience on the 320 without transition to the WB). Commuting is the same regardless of fleet. a string of 5 days OFF/month and that's all.30 days of leave (can not be allocated to blocks of less than 15 plus another 10 days off in the 320 and 15 in the T7)

You will receive accommodation appropriate for your family in Saudia city. Your kids education in Jeddah is subsidised and for all effective purposes Jeddah is where you'll live. You may be able to get back to your own country for a few days each month but please don't consider this to be commuting. Korean offer a real commuting contract.