Second officers QR 6000.

Black Pudding, I would say your statement is uneducated in saying you cannot find anywhere anywhere fit to live for QR 6000. A place on the "prestigious" pearl will set you back 8000. Places near the airport and Najma, Bin Mahmud area can be had for much less. I'm assuming in your case you will not be joining if you are to receive QR 6000 accomodation allowance?

If I remember rightly, Second Officers term time can last upto about 8 months from start of training. After which you will be elegible for QR10000.

An update on hiring at Qatar Airways. I just spoke to the recruiter in person and he is stating that Qatar needs to hire 720 pilot for 2012. He expects that number to remain the same in future years. I hope to have a detail report on hiring soon.

Will they hire normal SO's too? So not for the fast track?

TwoTone-7

I have been working for Qatar for 2 years now. I lived in The Holiday Villa for a while and now at Ain Khalid Gate. My wife loves it there.

What I am trying to say is that if this company treated everyone as First Officers from day one, they would get more people coming. Paying half until someone is line checked is doing nothing but saving a very very ammount of cash at the risk of not getting people to come.


I know the Pearl very well and its not for everyone. Some of my friends have moved there and they love it.


By the way, Strong Car hire are very good, I've been renting from them since I got here

You sure you haven't tagged on an extra 0 ? Looking at the prices you wrote they want 26000 dollars for a studio flat.

I've gone online and found a two bedroom fully furnished flat at the Pearl for about 13000 QAR per month.

So it's exactly what Two-T is saying....those price are by year so for 12x8000= 96000 QR it fit perectly the picture;-)

Devinewind,

Just relax and take a deep breath ;)
Quoted prices are based on a one-year rental contract and prices are advertised as total yearly amounts not as monthly amounts! Westerners like me are not used to that and I too was kind of surprised at first glance. You'll see that the housing allowance offered by QR still lets you with a lot of options to choose from.

All the best

So if I have to use the 10k allowance when I join, can eventually get into company accommodation? FWIW I was planning on getting into Ain Khalid Gate or a similar location with a spacious furnished pad and plenty of expats....

Housing
 

Just received a notice verifying the housing situation. Now "as per contract" will receive one month in hotel THEN 12,000/mo housing allowance for DEC. Anticipate the best course of action is to stay in hotel or apartment hotel type accommodation on a month to month basis until training is complete. This might also present an opportunity for the spouse to have a look around and find a mutually acceptable domicile.

The Pearl is making some news recently about them going "dry" in the commercial areas and cancelling the weekly social gathering. What is up with that?

Anyone have any comments on the Zig-Zag?

This week i got the bad news from my company they will probably sack people in my company. In the mean time i'm already waiting for 1 month and 1 week after submitting my application. No reaction so far. Restless nights for me. How long are you already waiting after submitting your application??

Ihave been waiting 9 weeks since finishing my app.

Flytdeck,

I flew with a guy who used to live at Zig-Zag and he said it was a huge mistake, he said the walls are cracking as the ground is still settling underneath plus the 'locals' just leave all their trash laying outside in the lobby areas and that the place stunk to high heaven.

Avoid.

As for the Pearl it's only 'dry' in the restraunts you can still enjoy a beer or six on your balcony. :ok:

There are bears in Qatar, and you keep them on your balcony? :}

Sorry, couldn't resist. Back to original programming..

Housing
 

Hi Flytdeck:

Do you Know about 12000Dh is a temporary solution or it is going to be the way from now?

the utility allowance, 400Dh, are included int he amount of 12000Dh or not?

Thank for your update

90 days
 

OK, I suppose there is still hope then if the 90 days rule no longer apply.

I was wondering about the Iran issue,- what is the take down there regarding this? I mean it can't be good for the local economy when they start rattling their sabres like that.

Hi all !
Me again without any news from them !! desesperate.. passed the 3rd November and still waiting for the news.

We use to say that guys who failed their interview= 2 week quick notification. Those who succeed= around 3 to 6 week notification.

I suspect that there is a third category (which is for me the worst one ever) of people who are totally out of this range without any information of success or failure after their interview.

I do perfectly understand that due to the huge backlog at QR, people may have to wait much more longer to have their fleet allocation and date of joining or some FO and DEC do receive everything quickly due to the high priority.

But I do not understand at all why there is a bunch of guys who don’t even receive a feedback regarding their interview results when the rate of interviews are perfectly maintain and well organize. I would be also surprise if the backlog have an impact on giving a simple answer to people who already attempt their interview…
It’s just a matter for people to know clearly if they’re in or out of the game, and I believe it save time and energy for everyone.
Personaly I will never call the HR department every week to get a feedback being sure that in such airline company, people perfectly know what they are doing.

So the question is, is there anyone who knows or can explain why/if this third category does exist? (I’m sure somebody here knows and perhaps may deliver few guys from this terrible situation)

For information, official time to receive an answer was clearly state during the interview=>3 to 4 weeks. (Me entering in week 6 and suppose to consider this as a fail :ouch:)

Hey RK303,

It's been 6 weeks for me since my SO interview too.:*

I know a few other people from my interview who have also been waiting, I'm assuming the delay is because of the holidays. I emailed them and they said they will get back with a response as soon as practical.

Hamid_27:cool:

Still no news..passed the 27th November

Good News versus No News
 

Anybody have any good news like a contract offer and start date lately, lots of people posting about not receiving any news lately, it appears to me the hiring process might have grounded to a halt, perhaps aircraft deliveries aren`t scheduled until the second half of this year and there is no need for hiring right now, 787`s don`t come until second half of the year, anybody know delivery schdedule for 777`s this year? Now many, when? Any other ideas?

Trackalpha, i was at the open days of qr. They told us simply to have a lot of patience. They confirmed they need a lot of pilots.

If you made it through the sim, you haven't "passed" anything. They have a new system where they take most pilots (unless you absolutely bombed one of the three portions) all the way through the sim, and then aggregate the scores. Then they take the total score and produce a cutoff line vis-a-vis the other candidates. From that, we were told there's about a 10%-30% acceptance rate.

10 to 30% acceptance rate after having passed all the process??? and after 2months and 2 weeks of waiting!! really??

Doesn't sounds great at all!

success rates
 

Gredenko

You talk about success rates but do you not think that a company seeking a large number of pilots has an interest in hire all those who meet their criteria even if it generates 100 percent successful on a session.

Nothing guarantees them that the day after the candidates will be better.

Just to make it clear for some of you, guys...
We were 11(mixed FO and FSO with 1 DEC) doing the assesment. All of us passed the exam, 7 of us passed the interview(the DEC failed as well a FO with A320 time), after the sim 5 got the job. It takes from 1 week to 7(my case) to get an answer.
After that you have to wait one month more, or even more, to get the contract. As soon as you send it back, they will tell you when you go join them.
I guess is quite significant that a DEC and a FO with A320 hours were failed; QR needs pilots but not at any price,you should get to a minimun level...
This is only my experience and for sure it is different from others, so take it like it is, an example

victor75 and others, do not get caught up in the percentages. Did you know, statistics show that 75% of all statistics are made up! :ooh: Geddit?

Just go and do the best you can do. Prepare and give a good presentation of yourself. Plenty of accurate information on here regarding what to expect in the assessment. They are not looking for anything special, just a well-rounded NORMAL individual, who in the case of a FO/SFO has the ability to self-critique and develop, and the patience to stand the work environment at QR, and life in Doha!

Good luck to you all.

Thanks gutter airways but I jave already passed everything. Now I am just waiting for an answer! it will be 3 months in 2 weeks and I don't even have a yes or no pass!! Kind of weird though if you think that many got there answers 2 or 3weeks later!

Gredenko, where do you get that from? We were told nothing of the sort on assessment day. They told us you progress per stage. I was literally told during interview that if my sim was ok, all would be well. Might just be me, but it sounds like a load of BS for an airline that is trying to get 750 bums on seats this year whilst not having achieved recruitment targets last year. They even told our group they were actively trying to reel people in as opposed to push them out.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong! I'm hoping for it anyway.

At the point that you do the sim check. The only thing stopping you from getting the job is failing the simulator ride.

Qatar housing
 

Loren 2005:

Received an eMail telling me that I would be given one month at a hotel, then would be expected to provide my own accommodation as they would start paying me my allowance (12,000 for DEC).

The utility allowance (400) is not included in the 12,000.

That is all the information that I was given. It does say in the contract that company housing is provided at their discretion.

Hopefully us newcomers can put something together for those following. We all know how difficult it can be to find accommodation in a foreign country especially while gearing up for exams.:(

FlyforFood1:

Thanks for the comments. Will avoid the ZigZag. We are looking at the Pearl. Would you give me an idea of the commute time to the airport (max, min, and normal)? It looks looks impressive on the 'net. Are the construction and facilities OK...

Besides the balcony beer call, is there any social activity in the area. Hate to leave my wife alone with my beer and with nothing else to do..:ooh:

The store does stock brands other than American beer I hope...?

Flytdeck,

Yes the pearl is probably one of the nicest locations in Doha, you won't get as much for your money in terms of space though compared with some of the other locations around Doha, tbh it feels like living on a marina in the Mediterranean somewhere, some really nice boats/yachts moored up there.

For you wife, there is obviously a large pool sunbathing area, plenty of top designer shops so she can spend all you winnings, nice big gym....other than that I'm sure she'll meet other people who are in the same position there that seems to be what happens with most. There is a new supermarket there too now so you won't have to trek out in traffic every time you need groceries.

The commute can be anything from 20/25mins to 45/50mins and that is purely down to traffic, depending which fleet you go on will determine who many times you'll be making that commute.

Once you get your liquor licence QDC sell all types of beer/lager from Corona to Miller to Bud etc I'm sure you'll find something to satisfy:ok:

Flytdeck


I know a few guys who live at the pearl. Its a nice place, but very quiet. My wife says that she would be unhappy there as its not really busy enough for her. I would strongly suggest you hire a car when you get here and have a good look around as there are 100's of compounds all over Doha.

I would say best thing to do is not panic and take your time renting somewhere and let your wife decide where she wants to live. Happy wife, happy life. I lived in Holiday Villa for a long time which was great. It was 10 mins from work. When my wife moved here, she wanted to move as it was too much like a hotel. I am now at Ain Khalid Gate which is better for my wife as the facilities are great. Its a pain for me to travel to work in rush hours as it can take 45 minutes to an hour max.


As for travelling from the Perl to work, it can take anything from 20 mins to an hour in rush hour.


TwoTone-7 is correct, if you get to the sim, you have passed the interview I guess, but they do not tell you if you have passed the sim or not. You have to wait for contact from them.

Good information
 

FlyforFood1 and Black Pudding:

Thanks for your time and assistance. Excellent information. Being one of the older breed they are hiring at the moment, quiet doesn't sound too bad :).

Interesting that Qatar is hiring quite a few in the 55+ age group (some age 61+). It will make it a lot easier for the F/Os to upgrade once they have some flying time under their belts as the seniors retire.

Snowing outside :mad:. Got to go shovel the driveway or I'll never get out of here later! Thanks again posters....

interview
 

Hello
i got an invite for the interview for F/O and email them back a few days ago replying with airport to which i will be flying out off and passport info/file I haven't received anything else from them when should i get info on what to bring etc....

One week before the interview... prepare logbook, medical, licence, passport, MCC, ATPL certificate, reference letters, and any other paper/document/certificate that you think will be helpful. If you need a flight connection just send them an email in order to get the exact timetable.
By the way, how long ago did you applied?

Maddog
I applied in Nov
Invite Feb
Yhe wifey is gonna come with can we get a visa at the airport for het
I sent them my passport info and also confirming that I will be there for interview
Gonna jumpseat to jfk to get the flight from there are u based here in the states

@Speedhold ,

Will you be at Feb 13th for the interview ?

Hi all,

Has anybody who attend selection on the 3rd Jan heard anything about them yet?

Thanks

Hi all!
Now on 5th week since interview!
I know it can take longer but willing to hear from them shortly.
Applied for FO, rated on A320.

Cheers

Just submitted an online application this past Sunday. Does anyone know the timeline to follow and how long it will take for a response? Thank you.

Cheers