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Scottish_Flyer 19th Oct 2009 14:59


It takes an average of 6 weeks to get an invitation.
I think it could be right place right time....sent mine second time round via dhl, so tracked it all the way to somebody in HR who signed for it and recieved a good email 8 days later! This was for a december invite. Could be they make the decisions at a certain time in the month. Did send a app via Royal Mail but I think it is still stuck in Manchester! 8 weeks later....gotta love the UK's mail system!

Onward to the interview and cheers for all the info!

northern boy 19th Oct 2009 16:14

I'm not having much in the way of luck these days. Oh well Too late now.

Thank you to the post office. Forgive me if I don't send an Xmas card.

Maybe I could get a temporary job in the sorting office. I hear there will be vacancies there soon:rolleyes:

mauuuus 20th Oct 2009 15:20

Best time to call
 
Greetings all,
I understand that in Doha the business hours are different for government entities, Banks, and Post Office, even restaurants. I would like to know what are the business hours of Qatar Airways and what is the best time to call them. Thank you beforehand for the info.
PS Any of you lads invited for the first week on Nov.-Post me

jmc08 21st Oct 2009 11:48

Interview
 
Could you please tell me, How was your job interview???

Regards,:rolleyes:

FABIO84 22nd Oct 2009 18:54

Hi jmc08 I'll be there the 7th of december. I'm looking around to try to understand how the selection will be! I hope to hear you with any news about that!bye

3dimsims 23rd Oct 2009 02:14

Hi Guys,

Have an interview invite aswell for the end of Nov. Good luck to all those who are waiting.

Any information regarding the interview process would be appreciated.

Regards

Spirit1 23rd Oct 2009 08:28

Ok guys
Just a friendly advise:)

Don’t any of your read the thread: Human Rights At Qatar Airways.
Read it.
Let your wife read it.
Let all your relatives read it.
And then ask them if they think it’s a good idea to enter this mad house.:eek:

Don’t only think about yourself and your career.
Don’t do the same mistake as many of us down here did.
95% of all the bull **** you read about QA is facts.
Read the thread: Human Rights At Qatar Airways.
Fly safe and don’t forget you lovely family.:ok:

NEDude 24th Oct 2009 18:24

Thank you for the advise Spirit1.

With all due respect however, why do I run across people who have a vastly different experience than you? And why is it when you read the internet message boards, EVERY airline in the world is a terrible place to work?

Again I do not want to come across as ungrateful for the input you provide here. But there are about four or five of you here who are very vocal about how bad it is there. I know four guys I call and email on a regular basis who work there, and their experience is very different than what you guys communicate on here.

As a divorced and unemployed pilot, and Qatar being the only place that I have an interview right now, it seems a lot better than my alternatives, even if you guys are correct.

broompusher 25th Oct 2009 20:19

I have a question I'm hoping someone here can help me with. I applied at QR in August 2008 and received a pdf letter from the HR dept. saying that I had been shortlisted into the interview pool and would be contacted for an interview in the future. It has now been over a year (yes I have sent in c.v. updates). There was mention a while back that they had problems with there resume pool? Do I need to re apply? I have emailed a query to QR's HR dept, however, no reply.

I am a CRJ pilot in the 3100hr TT range, I would imagine that I would be around the bottom of the c.v. pool but I would like to know where I stand and what the status of my application is/ (was?).

Recommended actions?

Thanks in advance.

Blacksteel7 26th Oct 2009 05:48

NEDude
 
May be Spirit1 is right. There are a lot of nasty things here. But for now it is a good choice. Join the club and good luck.
All the best! ;)

PUPY 199 26th Oct 2009 10:58

devorced unmployed
 
You think if you are devorced that you will have fun in QR ? Try it out and you will have CEO on your neck ( it is his airline they are his crew)

Unmployed it is a bad sitiuation i can understand it . Well join and see for your self . It is all fine till you get reported as they say it does not matter how you do your job it just matter who go in 9 floor and talk about others . What do you think why QR has so many threads on PPRUNE ?
No job sure get one but we told you so mate dont say you didnt know .
And plz ask dfro 160 ACN ( air crew noticess) which will tell you where you are alowed to step and where you are not otherwise buy a vaselin .

NEDude 26th Oct 2009 16:53

Who ever said anything about "fun". I certainly did not. I am a Mormon, there are quite a few limits on the "fun" I can have - can't even do the alcohol thing.

But I am divorced so I do not need to worry about my family having to adapt to life in Qatar. That is the point I was getting at.

Just got an email from a friend over there and his biggest complaint was it is hard to get back to the USA much other than vacations. He occupies his time by working as much as possible. That would be my plan as well - work hard, make money and pay off debts. Perhaps learn a new language or two, or some other skill, during my down times. I have no interest in going out and partying or running around with cabin crew.

Elifant 27th Oct 2009 01:34

DEC position
 
Hallo

I have applied in August 2009. I have been told by QA that they are not interviewing any DEC untill Jan or Feb next year. Now is this true or is it just a way of telling me that I wont be invited ?

Any up date on DEC position is welcome

Sky Dancer 27th Oct 2009 03:11

Now the all important question..IS IT WORTH WORKING FOR QR FOR THE LONG TERM ?:ok:

loc22550 27th Oct 2009 05:02

IMHO there is no advantage! A captain with 20 years experience in QR will have the same salary as a captain with 5 years experience in QR...! (No increase after 4 years seniority in the respective grade..Is this normal for a so called 5 stars airline....??Have a look at EK,AA,EY.....!
NO PENSION plan(promised by our CEO ..6..years AGO!!!!!), so again no benefit for a long term carrier.No Bonus.
The only benefit i can see is on the End of service benefit, based on the seniority in the company! thats it!
Cheers.

Captain Ned Kelly 27th Oct 2009 11:29

loc22550
 
The Goat doesn’t care if you have 20 years experience or 1 year in QR. Actually in this airline they don't care if you have 20 years or 1 year of previous experience ( all fleet has insurance). The Goat just care about today. Tomorrow will be another day. And the Goat is just waiting for your resignation or he will discharge you if he doesn’t need you anymore. This is normal for a so called 5 stars airline. It is simple and true. :E

P.S. QTR is a 5 starts airline for passengers not for Flight Deck crew. Actually as all private company. :}




ALL THE BEST!

Monur 27th Oct 2009 12:09


I have applied in August 2009. I have been told by QA that they are not interviewing any DEC untill Jan or Feb next year.
I applied for a DEC position in August and I have had no reply at all!

menikos 27th Oct 2009 17:39

Those who are complaining, FEEL FREE TO LEAVE

RJ900NG 27th Oct 2009 22:30

Hello
 
Hi congrads on the interview and you are right hi whats was your back ground cos i also wont to apply but not sure if i can get an interview... any info will help thanks

NEDude 27th Oct 2009 23:34

Anyone willing to comment on the current timetable following the interview?

How long after interviewto find out?
How long after finding out to start?

Did get an answer to the pay question from one of my friends over there. For those interested - the company will advance you one half of your monthly guarentee on day one. If you start near the beginning of a month, you will get a paycheck at the end of that month.

QR UNITED 2009 28th Oct 2009 09:34

menikos
 
FEEL FREE TO LEAVE MENIKOS ones you get it !

Nice post "feel free to leave " the same words CEO say on every meeting . Menikos are you deep inside as well ?

Captain Oryx 28th Oct 2009 11:11

NE Dude-2-4 weeks after interview/sim eval is the normal length of time for notification. You will be asked for additional info and at some point given for class date. If you are proactive and call, you may even get a choice.

Monur/Eifant- Pilot recruitment is not screening DEC's until next year. (Note: when recruitment refers to "screening" they are refering to the time when they first look at applications. The actual interview "screening" comes later.) I was told that next summer was a realistic time frame for the next DEC hires.

The pay raise increment has been discussed ad nauseum, you can use the search function to see the "comments".

Disclaimer- The above information is only accurate on the day I heard it. Things change daily. most for the good, IMO. Others on this board, obviously, have a different opinion.

Good luck!:ok:

davide84 28th Oct 2009 11:48

interview
 
HI guys, does anybody knows how is going to be the intervew in Qatar?
do they pay you the positioning as well for the interview-sim?
thanks a lot
davide

squissh 29th Oct 2009 14:00

Interview 9th November
 
anyone coming?


squissh

JABAL 29th Oct 2009 18:27

LOC22550 you seem unhappy with QR judgeing from all your post, I am just wondering, :confused: if this outfit is so bad why not look elsewhere brother :ok: life is too short dude:sad:

loc22550 30th Oct 2009 06:55

Jabal ..there was a question asked by Sky dancer :...and IMHO i just answered the question quoting&relating TRUE FACT.Anything wrong in what i said..just tell me ....?
Yes Q.R. give me a job,yes Q.R. give me a salary every month...Does it mean Q.R. is the best airline to work for,Does it mean in Q.R. everythink is good&greatand that we are not allowed to discuss any issue...: NO.

menikos 30th Oct 2009 14:08

Once again if you are not happy with your current situation you can leave the company, no one forced you to come.

I can understand that it's not the best airline, many problems to solve but at least you have a cockpit and for the time being it's not so bad.

My advice be patient and when the grass will be greener elsewhere give it a try.

All the best.

Beavis and Butthead 31st Oct 2009 12:48

Could anyone on the A320/A330 fleet comment on lifestyle, routes,roster, Doha living etc?

Capt Krunch 31st Oct 2009 14:27

Butthead

do a search, it has already been covered thousands of times
.

Poisoned by Compromise
Krunch

JungleJett 3rd Nov 2009 06:10

Beavis
 
If you are married with a maximum of 2 children under the age of 10: Join.
If you are: -Single,
-Married with 3+ children,
-Married with 1+ teenager(s) STAY AWAY!!

It's that simple

mauuuus 4th Nov 2009 02:03

had to make a decision
 
Greetings all,
For some time the main subject is and has been “Do not come to Qatar” and some cases members have emotionally expressed their frustrations, but please understand this thread is to help pilots in the interview process and not to dissuade pilots who “had” to make the decision to fly and live in Doha.
We all come from different paths, to name a few: Some pilots had their patrimony slashed in half due to a sour divorce, others were forced to early retirement, and others need to put their kids through college or find themselves in mid life financial crisis and the few, the proud who do not have another place to go but Qatar.
As those fellow pilots who fly for Qatar Airways, we also “had” to make the decision to fly for Qatar Airways, and I am sure we will see unhappy faces and confront attitudes that are not according to our profession, but it is part of a new reality of aviation. (I started flying when we pilots were offered options of different meals from first class and were served in porcelain trays with silverware)
So please if you fellow collogues want to help us, share the frustrations but also provide a means to overcome those disappointments because we also have made our decision to fly for a living and to try to enjoy our profession.
And please share the tips, advice, suggestions and comments to help us for the interview and evaluation.
And also, for those lads who have been invited for the interview, do not barge in and holler for the gouge or tips. Do some research in this thread.
Happy trails,

Blacksteel7 4th Nov 2009 04:20

mauuuus
 
Very nice! Indeed. :D

littlejet 4th Nov 2009 09:59

I once ignored the pprune threads when I was joining an Asian carrier.
Ignoring it was the worst mistake I ever made.
It all proved true. The disrespect, frequent contract breaching , salary reduction just to name a few.
And the number of complaints were not as half as with this place.
It completely stalled my career as I was stuck with the bond and when it was over I had nowhere to go.
In the meantime all my friends and former colleagues moved to a higher management positions but could not help me as their outfits closed the recruitment doors. Finally I found something just as an escape slide and now I am hovering on the bottom of the seniority list waiting for my industry upturn.
Even if I loose my flying job I would rather do something else, waiting for a better option then jump into similar outfit and continue my misery.

My two cents

L.

Schickfuss 4th Nov 2009 12:10

Interview
 
I did the interview last week ,50 questions ,my test was number 11 ,TODA?ASDA?actions at V1 with an engine failure,virga ,where is hail most encounter?temperature at the troposphere? what does the blood transports? if you loose the rwy while circling what do you do?CAT I MINS mda and rvr,altocumulus castellatus are indication of? with ISA what is the temp at 10000? what happens if you move cg from fwd to aft?what happens to a clogged pitot tube while you descend ? TAS and mach what happens in a descend ? after a short rest the interview ,about qatar? why qatar ? demandig captain ? have someone misinterpret you ? means of effective communications on the cockpit .then the sim was in A330 6 survivors ,TO rwy 27L heathrow ,2 ILS no AP/AT/FD ,after all they tell us to wait 2 weeks ,but I just received the mail that I have failed so good luck to everybody ongoing

Captain Oryx 4th Nov 2009 16:26

And you know this, how?

broompusher 4th Nov 2009 18:09

To pose this question once more. Looking for an answer from anybody in the know.

"I have a question I'm hoping someone here can help me with. I applied at QR in August 2008 and received a pdf letter from the HR dept. saying that I had been shortlisted into the interview pool and would be contacted for an interview in the future. It has now been over a year (yes I have sent in c.v. updates). There was mention a while back that they had problems with there resume pool? Do I need to re apply? I have emailed a query to QR's HR dept, however, no reply.

I am a CRJ pilot in the 3100hr TT range, I would imagine that I would be around the bottom of the c.v. pool but I would like to know where I stand and what the status of my application is/ (was?).

Recommended actions?

Thanks in advance."

ICARO34x 4th Nov 2009 19:12

Thanx
 
Thank U Schickfuss for the HELP and the good mood,I´m close to an interview and helps a lot .:ok:
To the rest which put a lot of :mad: on the company,if you don´t like just...leave,is that easy.
But after that,please pretty please ,tell us to which paradise are you going ,just to apply directly there and save us all the hell waiting us at Doha.

mauuuus 5th Nov 2009 13:40

Qatar Living
 
For those who are interested in information of living in Doha and its culture. Attached is a hyperlink of general information of practical guide of living in Doha. ( All contact numbers have been deleted at the institutions request)
http://www.cmu.edu/hr/international/...ticalguide.pdf

Black Stain 5th Nov 2009 13:45

No matter how mad you get, dont ever give the bird to anyone in Qatar, especially in the simulator. Is illegal by emiri decree, will start a riot and straight to jail for you :)

mauuuus 5th Nov 2009 14:09

Tips and advice
 
FMCOVERHEAT,
Congratulations in your achievement.
If I may I would like to ask some additional information about your experience and how you prepared yourself for the interview.
Please let me shoot some questions:
How long did you get prepared for the interview?
What books or sources of study did you rely on to get prepared?
Were there more JAR or FAA questions?
Were there any questions about SOPS, Aircraft systems?
Any questions about PANOPS, TERPS, ICAO Doc. 8168, 4444?
Were there any trick questions? Multiple answers? Straight Forward?
During the interview,
Where there any personal questions about your experiences, background, or just direct to tec. Questions.
Did the lady of HR ask any questions?
During the sim session,
Did they expect you to do all CRM, Crew, gate briefings Preflights checklists etc?
Was the sim profile the same as they handed out?
General questions,
What was the success rate of your class?
How was the environment in general?
And finally,
Any tips, advice, comments, suggestions?
Thank you beforehand for the information. Greatly appreciated.


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