Married a UAE national
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Married a UAE national
Hello blokes,
I have a weird situation. I am an australian that just married a local national girl that i met in college back home. I am going through the hassle of dealing with the culture and all its idiosyncresies here at DXB. She mentioned to me if i want to be a national cause she has family higher up in the government. I dont want to give up my aussie citizenship, but will being a national make it easier for me to get hired by Gulf or Emirates? I really dont want to give up something for nothing. I would rather have her become an aussie citizen than the other way around.
thanks
Chris
I have a weird situation. I am an australian that just married a local national girl that i met in college back home. I am going through the hassle of dealing with the culture and all its idiosyncresies here at DXB. She mentioned to me if i want to be a national cause she has family higher up in the government. I dont want to give up my aussie citizenship, but will being a national make it easier for me to get hired by Gulf or Emirates? I really dont want to give up something for nothing. I would rather have her become an aussie citizen than the other way around.
thanks
Chris
Stay Ozzzzy if you ask me ( am local by the way but not from DXB) 
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if you can convince them that you are in effect a GCC national then you can be employed as a second officer. they will pay for your type rating etc. an ex pat needs to have a type rating and 500 hours on type. if you give up- your oz passport you can always get it back later anyway. can't take away where you were born pal. i suspect that even if you convinced them you were GCC you would still fail as you are not an arab. interesting one this.
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They seldom marry outside, but i guess i got lucky since she was so far away from home and i was able to corrupt her (Just kidding). Even though the local girls will be looking at you underneath all that makeup there still seems a way of meeting a national without parents finding out. You know they are always looking.
Does it seem odd to you guys living here that there is such a racial prejudice toward the asians and east indians. When i first got here, i was shocked by the treatment of these people. I never knew the arabs were so arrogant and that the pakis and east-indians run the country. I was talking to an asian the other day and he told me that he does not mix with the nationals. The nationals have this arrogance about them that i wont put up with. I was standing in line at KFC and this arab walked in front of the line and ordered ahead of all the asians that were standing there. I told him that just cuz you are arab, doesnt mean that you have the right to be up there and i started raising my voice. This phillipino turns around and tells me that its okay. Screw that, i would have kicked his ass. Does anyone else see the racial injustice here or is it just me.
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Does it seem odd to you guys living here that there is such a racial prejudice toward the asians and east indians. When i first got here, i was shocked by the treatment of these people. I never knew the arabs were so arrogant and that the pakis and east-indians run the country. I was talking to an asian the other day and he told me that he does not mix with the nationals. The nationals have this arrogance about them that i wont put up with. I was standing in line at KFC and this arab walked in front of the line and ordered ahead of all the asians that were standing there. I told him that just cuz you are arab, doesnt mean that you have the right to be up there and i started raising my voice. This phillipino turns around and tells me that its okay. Screw that, i would have kicked his ass. Does anyone else see the racial injustice here or is it just me.
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Forum Newbie,
What you said of the Arab guy cutting queue is
very common in the middle east countries. Arabs
have a very hot temper too and sad to say, they don't seem to be civilised people.
Be very careful dealing with Arabs. They may verbally agree something with you but can turn around and say something else. Whatever deals you do, make sure you get a black and white from them.
Don'give up on your OZ citizenship ever!!!!!!
All the best!!
What you said of the Arab guy cutting queue is
very common in the middle east countries. Arabs
have a very hot temper too and sad to say, they don't seem to be civilised people.
Be very careful dealing with Arabs. They may verbally agree something with you but can turn around and say something else. Whatever deals you do, make sure you get a black and white from them.
Don'give up on your OZ citizenship ever!!!!!!
All the best!!
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What you said of the Arab guy cutting queue is
very common in the middle east countries. Arabs
have a very hot temper too and sad to say, they don't seem to be civilised people.
Be very careful dealing with Arabs. They may verbally agree something with you but can turn around and say something else. Whatever deals you do, make sure you get a black and white from them.
Taking about racial prejudicest and NOT CIVILISED DO U BLAME US, with CREATURES like your self around. You know what F*** civilization if it resembles F***ers LIKE YOU
What you said of the Arab guy cutting queue is
very common in the middle east countries. Arabs
have a very hot temper too and sad to say, they don't seem to be civilised people.
Be very careful dealing with Arabs. They may verbally agree something with you but can turn around and say something else. Whatever deals you do, make sure you get a black and white from them.
Taking about racial prejudicest and NOT CIVILISED DO U BLAME US, with CREATURES like your self around. You know what F*** civilization if it resembles F***ers LIKE YOU
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Thank you, druckmefunk.
I am only speaking from experiences I had with them and
forum newbie, to my opinion, is probably getting to
know this culture.
To Joe Monsoon – I am NOT AN EXPAT
I am only speaking from experiences I had with them and
forum newbie, to my opinion, is probably getting to
know this culture.
To Joe Monsoon – I am NOT AN EXPAT
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Gents, before some of you go stereotyping people of any race – (this thread's victim of choice appears to be those ‘uncivilized’ Gulf AY-rabs) – take a closer look at “forum newbie’s” two posts and I think I’d have to agree with “Andu” that this guy’s a windup merchant, and not a very good one at that.
A couple of points about his posts just don’t gel. For instance, he says he’s an Australian, but he met his wife at “college”. College? College’s are posh high schools in Australia, and this “bloke” doesn’t seem to have gone to one of those.
And “hello blokes”? Give me a break. Why not go all the way and get out the corks on a string hat and say “hello cobbers”…
I have never heard the term “East Indian” (when referring to people from the Subcontinent), used in Australia, only in North America, particularly Canada.
Australians tend to kick people in the aRse, not the ‘ass’, “bloke”.
You say that your wife is a “local national”. Most people even remotely familiar with the UAE would assume from that description that the lady is an Emarati, and if she <<“has family higher up in the government”>>, that she would almost certainly (most would say definitely) be Muslim. If that’s the case, we can only assume that you converted to Islam to marry the lady. (If you did, after reading your rather intemperate remarks about your wife’s people, you don’t seem to have taken the lessons prior to your conversion very much to heart.)
If you haven’t converted, your wife’s family must be almost unique. There might be a few non religious Muslim families in Dubai that might accept a daughter marrying a non Muslim if she lived in the West, but I’d be very surprised if even the most secular Arab families could accept their daughter returning to the UAE “married” to a non Muslim. I use the quotation marks because the marriage simply wouldn’t be recognised by the local authorities. The young lady would be living in sin – an adulteress – and the courts have rather painful and permanently scarring physical punishments for young Muslim women you do such things in this part of the world, apart from brothers and cousins who tend to take it upon themselves to defend the family honour, (which they value very highly), sometimes in ways that can prove terminal for the person deemed to be doing so.
If your tale is in fact true, with the attitudes you express, I can only assume that your in-laws, like you, find themselves in a “<<weird situation>>” with you in their house. As for whether <<”(will) being a national make it easier for me to get hired by Gulf or Emirates?”>>, I couldn’t comment either way. But please, if you really are in the “weird situation” you say you’re in and you really do have Australian citizenship, do yourself and your native country an enormous favour and keep your eyes open and your mouth shut for a few months until you get to understand the culture you’ve married in to. You never know, you might even learn something.
A couple of points about his posts just don’t gel. For instance, he says he’s an Australian, but he met his wife at “college”. College? College’s are posh high schools in Australia, and this “bloke” doesn’t seem to have gone to one of those.
And “hello blokes”? Give me a break. Why not go all the way and get out the corks on a string hat and say “hello cobbers”…
I have never heard the term “East Indian” (when referring to people from the Subcontinent), used in Australia, only in North America, particularly Canada.
Australians tend to kick people in the aRse, not the ‘ass’, “bloke”.
You say that your wife is a “local national”. Most people even remotely familiar with the UAE would assume from that description that the lady is an Emarati, and if she <<“has family higher up in the government”>>, that she would almost certainly (most would say definitely) be Muslim. If that’s the case, we can only assume that you converted to Islam to marry the lady. (If you did, after reading your rather intemperate remarks about your wife’s people, you don’t seem to have taken the lessons prior to your conversion very much to heart.)
If you haven’t converted, your wife’s family must be almost unique. There might be a few non religious Muslim families in Dubai that might accept a daughter marrying a non Muslim if she lived in the West, but I’d be very surprised if even the most secular Arab families could accept their daughter returning to the UAE “married” to a non Muslim. I use the quotation marks because the marriage simply wouldn’t be recognised by the local authorities. The young lady would be living in sin – an adulteress – and the courts have rather painful and permanently scarring physical punishments for young Muslim women you do such things in this part of the world, apart from brothers and cousins who tend to take it upon themselves to defend the family honour, (which they value very highly), sometimes in ways that can prove terminal for the person deemed to be doing so.
If your tale is in fact true, with the attitudes you express, I can only assume that your in-laws, like you, find themselves in a “<<weird situation>>” with you in their house. As for whether <<”(will) being a national make it easier for me to get hired by Gulf or Emirates?”>>, I couldn’t comment either way. But please, if you really are in the “weird situation” you say you’re in and you really do have Australian citizenship, do yourself and your native country an enormous favour and keep your eyes open and your mouth shut for a few months until you get to understand the culture you’ve married in to. You never know, you might even learn something.
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Yes 7X7 I am inclined to agree with you. There is a lot that is very American about 'forum newbie', certainly not Australian.
Possibly someone from the sub-continent who had the benefit of an education in the US of A? Some Indians(Muslims) or Pakistanis that went to Dubai many years ago may have achieved UAE Nationality by now, but I would doubt it. Any genuine UAE National female getting an education in Australia would be chaperoned to the extent that 'getting married' would be out of the question!
OK 'forum newbie' , your chance to show how wrong we doubters are, off you go!
Possibly someone from the sub-continent who had the benefit of an education in the US of A? Some Indians(Muslims) or Pakistanis that went to Dubai many years ago may have achieved UAE Nationality by now, but I would doubt it. Any genuine UAE National female getting an education in Australia would be chaperoned to the extent that 'getting married' would be out of the question!
OK 'forum newbie' , your chance to show how wrong we doubters are, off you go!
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7x7 and the rest of you, i think you missed the whole point that i had the concern that there is racial prejudice in the country. You can not say that everyone is treated equally in this part of the land.
And yes, i did convert to islam. One of the requirements of marriage. Second, her family was not too happy about the whole situation and tried intensely to stop us. Lastly, according to her and her friends...they dont like the way arab men treat the women. My wife is very open and liberal (her life abroad) and she would never put up with the cheating and bias towards women.
Furthermore, i did attend college in Canada. University of BC to be exact and yes they do call it college. To further my point, i think canadians call all indians east indians and thats where i get the habit from.
I have seen how they have this treatment of other races. I have made many freinds that are either east indian or asians and they have told me about the treatment. I guess you have to be oppressed to even feel that you are oppressed. Any arab will admit that they are treating them fairly but ask any of those minority groups and they will give you a different answer. If you ask an ozzie if we were ever treating the abos fairly and they would say yes.
chrisDONT HATE ME BECAUSE I TOOK ONE OF YOUR WOMEN ...just my charm. I do understand the culture, thats why i am here on the forum.
G Khan,
Prove me wrong....i think you are a paki. Lets see if you can get the rights that a national can get. If a paki is in australia, he is considered australian and is priviliged to the same rights as a third generation. I doubt you can be considered and emirati. I cant believe that you as a paki or indian dont see the prejudicial social hierarchy system.
chris....
prove me wrong.
G Khan,
Prove me wrong....i think you are a paki. Lets see if you can get the rights that a national can get. If a paki is in australia, he is considered australian and is priviliged to the same rights as a third generation. I doubt you can be considered and emirati. I cant believe that you as a paki or indian dont see the prejudicial social hierarchy system.
chris....
prove me wrong.
And yes, i did convert to islam. One of the requirements of marriage. Second, her family was not too happy about the whole situation and tried intensely to stop us. Lastly, according to her and her friends...they dont like the way arab men treat the women. My wife is very open and liberal (her life abroad) and she would never put up with the cheating and bias towards women.
Furthermore, i did attend college in Canada. University of BC to be exact and yes they do call it college. To further my point, i think canadians call all indians east indians and thats where i get the habit from.
I have seen how they have this treatment of other races. I have made many freinds that are either east indian or asians and they have told me about the treatment. I guess you have to be oppressed to even feel that you are oppressed. Any arab will admit that they are treating them fairly but ask any of those minority groups and they will give you a different answer. If you ask an ozzie if we were ever treating the abos fairly and they would say yes.
chrisDONT HATE ME BECAUSE I TOOK ONE OF YOUR WOMEN ...just my charm. I do understand the culture, thats why i am here on the forum.
G Khan,
Prove me wrong....i think you are a paki. Lets see if you can get the rights that a national can get. If a paki is in australia, he is considered australian and is priviliged to the same rights as a third generation. I doubt you can be considered and emirati. I cant believe that you as a paki or indian dont see the prejudicial social hierarchy system.
chris....
prove me wrong.
G Khan,
Prove me wrong....i think you are a paki. Lets see if you can get the rights that a national can get. If a paki is in australia, he is considered australian and is priviliged to the same rights as a third generation. I doubt you can be considered and emirati. I cant believe that you as a paki or indian dont see the prejudicial social hierarchy system.
chris....
prove me wrong.
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Me, a Paki!!!
Hardly forum newbie, born in Surrey, UK, of Scottish descent etc. etc. but I have worked in the Middle East quite a bit and I do agree with you that they are very discriminatory but that is how they have always been and I don't see them changing for you!
I am in Australia on a sub-class 410 visa and have absolutely NO rights, except to pay income tax! But that is another subject.
Cheers, GK. (Which stands for Ghengis Kahn, a rather well known 'right winger' from years gone by!).
I am in Australia on a sub-class 410 visa and have absolutely NO rights, except to pay income tax! But that is another subject.
Cheers, GK. (Which stands for Ghengis Kahn, a rather well known 'right winger' from years gone by!).
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