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Do you or have you worked for QR?
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in some ways but I have been it, seen it and I only post FACTS about incidents I KNOW about. No hearsay.
...and, I , like many others hate to see the good folks suffer!
Do you or have you worked for QR?
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in some ways but I have been it, seen it and I only post FACTS about incidents I KNOW about. No hearsay.
...and, I , like many others hate to see the good folks suffer!
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On Wednesday at about half past midnight our friend AAB was in the bar/nightclub called Oxygen at the Al Bustan Rotana Hotel in Dubai with a drink of something in his hand ... by all accounts a little merry ... but that is third hand info unlike the sighting! Dressed smart casual ... shirt outside his trousers trying to emulate the look of a much younger man.
What does this prove? That he's normal? Impossible. That he likes an alcoholic drink? Maybe. Nothing at all? Probably!
What does this prove? That he's normal? Impossible. That he likes an alcoholic drink? Maybe. Nothing at all? Probably!
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Actually, in his previous existence he used to have a taste for the old "walking johnny"...according to someone who used to travel with him!
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Who gives a sh#t what the man likes to eat or drink or whatever. What we should all be worried about is the fact that while he is quite happy to be continually terrorising all of his staff (systemwide), the company is actually in a financial mess.
The latest evidence of this is when we see repeated copycat schedules of EK (Shanghai, Moscow, soon New York, Australia.....). The hub and spoke theory cannot continue for ever with a fleet of shabby second hand A300's, being bought or leased from second rate Chinese and Asian carriers who could see the sense in getting rid of them!
We should not be fooled by the company's crazy rate of expansion - this is a rate at which the industry cannot stand at present - wait and see.
I heard a rumour that Manchester and Rome will be shelved very soon. (under instruction from shareholders).
I am really sorry to hear this.
Who gives a sh#t what the man likes to eat or drink or whatever. What we should all be worried about is the fact that while he is quite happy to be continually terrorising all of his staff (systemwide), the company is actually in a financial mess.
The latest evidence of this is when we see repeated copycat schedules of EK (Shanghai, Moscow, soon New York, Australia.....). The hub and spoke theory cannot continue for ever with a fleet of shabby second hand A300's, being bought or leased from second rate Chinese and Asian carriers who could see the sense in getting rid of them!
We should not be fooled by the company's crazy rate of expansion - this is a rate at which the industry cannot stand at present - wait and see.
I heard a rumour that Manchester and Rome will be shelved very soon. (under instruction from shareholders).
I am really sorry to hear this.
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continually terrorising all of his staff (systemwide) :
This terrorisim is working ..... we have a better disiplined staff .
We have diciplined cabin and flight deck crew...
If it wasn't for AAB's actions , we would have a country full of cabin crew conflicting with the traditions of Qatar ....
you know what I mean?
So i totaly agree with the style of AAB with his staff .
Besides , what's wrong with a boss that is strict ?
At the end of the day the boss wants the company to succeed .
continually terrorising all of his staff (systemwide) :
This terrorisim is working ..... we have a better disiplined staff .
We have diciplined cabin and flight deck crew...
If it wasn't for AAB's actions , we would have a country full of cabin crew conflicting with the traditions of Qatar ....
you know what I mean?
So i totaly agree with the style of AAB with his staff .
Besides , what's wrong with a boss that is strict ?
At the end of the day the boss wants the company to succeed .
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No, you are wrong!
AAB does not discipline, he terrifies crew!
The discipline you are talking about comes from the hard working CSD/ CS who conducts the briefing, instills confidence in the crew and let's them know how good and valued they are. They then feel motivated and go on the aircraft to perform marvellously, diligently and thoroughly despite the constant threat of losing their job!
There are the odd CSD/ CS that follow the AAB method, but I am sure that many would agree, the discipline starts in the briefing room!
I care about what happens to QR because of the good people there and their families...remember...YOU could be next...
Just look at the recent sackings....and the reasons....
Good that enjoy it, many do...make the most of it because it will not last!
No, you are wrong!
AAB does not discipline, he terrifies crew!
The discipline you are talking about comes from the hard working CSD/ CS who conducts the briefing, instills confidence in the crew and let's them know how good and valued they are. They then feel motivated and go on the aircraft to perform marvellously, diligently and thoroughly despite the constant threat of losing their job!
There are the odd CSD/ CS that follow the AAB method, but I am sure that many would agree, the discipline starts in the briefing room!
I care about what happens to QR because of the good people there and their families...remember...YOU could be next...
Just look at the recent sackings....and the reasons....
Good that enjoy it, many do...make the most of it because it will not last!
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O.k. Homesick , I see your point .... but beleive me if AAB does not use his dictatorship method , hell would break lose..
QR can not afford any mistakes , remember 1 accident and the airline is gone.
Not every employee in the airline is mature , you get different kinds of people....
Imagine being in a school with an easy soft principle , what would all the kids do?
I think AAB has orders to act like this , in the old place where he used to work his attitude was completly different.
I beleive that the fear element should be there.
thanks
QR can not afford any mistakes , remember 1 accident and the airline is gone.
Not every employee in the airline is mature , you get different kinds of people....
Imagine being in a school with an easy soft principle , what would all the kids do?
I think AAB has orders to act like this , in the old place where he used to work his attitude was completly different.
I beleive that the fear element should be there.
thanks
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Sheikh Mohamed, Maurice Flanagan and even James Hogan don't use this style of dictatorial management, and there is no real sign of anarchy at either EK or GF.
So, how do these guys get away with it, but in Doha, AAB has to have his six thousand fingers in six thousand pies! (pardon the parody).
I admire the guy's tenacity and his sheer love and passion for the company and his desire for success.
But, this style just cannot go on! He MUST let go of some of the reins at some stage and entrust and empower his management team to fully do the jobs for which they were hired!
Come on........we all agree with this. Why have a dog and bark yourself, as the saying goes?
Sheikh Mohamed, Maurice Flanagan and even James Hogan don't use this style of dictatorial management, and there is no real sign of anarchy at either EK or GF.
So, how do these guys get away with it, but in Doha, AAB has to have his six thousand fingers in six thousand pies! (pardon the parody).
I admire the guy's tenacity and his sheer love and passion for the company and his desire for success.
But, this style just cannot go on! He MUST let go of some of the reins at some stage and entrust and empower his management team to fully do the jobs for which they were hired!
Come on........we all agree with this. Why have a dog and bark yourself, as the saying goes?
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With PPRUNE Police around , expect any Identity mate...
Someone attended a QR meeting once and heard AAB saying that they will trace people that post negitives about QR ,
what are the odds that QR police can actually trace you?
Anyone?
Someone attended a QR meeting once and heard AAB saying that they will trace people that post negitives about QR ,
what are the odds that QR police can actually trace you?
Anyone?
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What surprises me is that the amount of people leaving monthly is near to be equal to those joining every month. How can they still expand? If only there would be unions in Qatar.... . Has anyone thought about a strike? what would be the consequences? Would everyone be terminated? That would be the end of QR. Hope there will never be an end to QR but the top of the company will have to change for that in order to be succesful.
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Bang,
Referring to your comments above, I must add that I have exactly the same feeling about YOUR posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have anything to say to me of a sensitive nature, either PM me or call me. You have my numbers and you know who I am!
Don't change the subject of this thread - if you want to start another one about multiple identities, then it will be the longest thread in history!! As Junkyard said, people at QR are terrified to post negative comments because they are being tracked down by someone......
In any case, all of the threads on this ME Forum are in the English language.
Back to the real issue - I guess that strikes are forbidden under Qatari labour laws and the Contract of Employment issued by QR. And in any case, that wouldn't really solve anything.
All the Company needs is for its management team to be empowered.
Referring to your comments above, I must add that I have exactly the same feeling about YOUR posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have anything to say to me of a sensitive nature, either PM me or call me. You have my numbers and you know who I am!
Don't change the subject of this thread - if you want to start another one about multiple identities, then it will be the longest thread in history!! As Junkyard said, people at QR are terrified to post negative comments because they are being tracked down by someone......
In any case, all of the threads on this ME Forum are in the English language.
Back to the real issue - I guess that strikes are forbidden under Qatari labour laws and the Contract of Employment issued by QR. And in any case, that wouldn't really solve anything.
All the Company needs is for its management team to be empowered.
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Hello, every body
Does any one Knows what happen to Derrick, DMartin and Roberts? woderful guys! but ........
I Just haven't seen these guys in a long time!!!!!!!!
just curious
any news?
Have a nice day you all!!!!!
I Just haven't seen these guys in a long time!!!!!!!!
just curious
any news?Have a nice day you all!!!!!
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Been reading through this forum, interesting, but somehow sad to read. Seems there is a couple of inmature people around/in the company (and they are flight crew !!).
Cheers,
Anyone in any company as far as i know is free to leave if they are unhappy with the company/conditions and if they do !
A good advice "never slam the door after you when you leave", the aviation world is very small. It seems that some people ignore that.
"The people you meet on the way up, you will meet again on the way down"
Good luck to your company in the future.
I am not working in Qatar Airways just for your info, but as Airbus driver in another part of the world.
Cheers
Cheers,
Anyone in any company as far as i know is free to leave if they are unhappy with the company/conditions and if they do !
A good advice "never slam the door after you when you leave", the aviation world is very small. It seems that some people ignore that.
"The people you meet on the way up, you will meet again on the way down"
Good luck to your company in the future.
I am not working in Qatar Airways just for your info, but as Airbus driver in another part of the world.
Cheers
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It makes me laugh some of the people asking do you know this person and that person right in the middle of serious discussion!!! They must be on something!!!
If A300 Man is serious about what he's saying about QR's figs and profitability over on the "Qatar Critical" thread then we may well be "out of a prune job" as AAB will surely on his bike...literally and then we'll have nothing to moan about.
As far as Junkyard Dog goes...there's been some good threads from A300man, Goldstone, Homesic k etc but surely this joker is stirring everybody up, just trying to make stupid comments suposedly in support of AAB's style etc. I think we should just ignore further threads from him/her and treat them with the contempt they deserve.
Some of the purposes of my threads is to get the Board to listen, get them to take action and turn QR into the company they should be rather than the one they are...if what A300Man is right then maybe, just maybe they have listened. The bouncer and his "prune police" can't touch you as far as I know. Frankly I'm past caring now.
If A300 Man is serious about what he's saying about QR's figs and profitability over on the "Qatar Critical" thread then we may well be "out of a prune job" as AAB will surely on his bike...literally and then we'll have nothing to moan about.
As far as Junkyard Dog goes...there's been some good threads from A300man, Goldstone, Homesic k etc but surely this joker is stirring everybody up, just trying to make stupid comments suposedly in support of AAB's style etc. I think we should just ignore further threads from him/her and treat them with the contempt they deserve.
Some of the purposes of my threads is to get the Board to listen, get them to take action and turn QR into the company they should be rather than the one they are...if what A300Man is right then maybe, just maybe they have listened. The bouncer and his "prune police" can't touch you as far as I know. Frankly I'm past caring now.