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Old 25th Apr 2003, 03:01
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I wonder if anyone currently in QR can help with my query. I've looked through the history and wonder how things are now in Qatar Airways.

How much do Capts take home, how much for housing and what can you get for it, how much for schooling and what are the schools like. Staff travel? All the usual stuff - very grateful if anyone can help with an informed and balanced view.
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here we go again
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Gypsy I have told you before to get yourself an original nom de plume.

As for Qatar Airways . This subject has been flogged to death already. My analysis of QR which may be incorrect is if you are unemployed then you have nothing to lose by joining,but don,t leave a job to join such an outfit until such times as they get their act together
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Exactly as thegypsy says. Do not for heavens sake leave an existing job to go to QR. If you have nothing else then by all means give it a go.
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Qatar and Qatar air ways ?????....please!

Say it "tata Qatar"!
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Hasn't anyone got anything positive to say?

(PS for thegypsy - its just a name - get a life)
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gypsy It may only be a name but it causes confusion.I have already received two abusive meesages intended for you!!!

As for QR. Positive remarks.

Do you like cloudless skies and temperatures in the forties?? Do I hear Yes?? Well in that case go for it,you will really like it there.

As I said before QR has been flogged to death already. What more can anyone tell you I wonder?
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Anything positive?.....Answer is "NO" !!
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Thumbs down Its no worth it!

For more info. visit this page!
http://www.theinformationminister.co...p?ID=612112264


I won't recommend it! is a tedious job and the atmosphere here l in QR is devastating nothing like I was accustom in the real world! and living among the locals they are not very friendly you fell like you are in the fifth dimension and the standard of living is not like one would expect it! Rent $$$$$ School $$$$ a very mediocre system Food $$....$$$$ it depends on your life style back at home but here there isn't any! Any ways if you decide don't plan to stay too long and if you are wise stay at home.

Best of luck!

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abus, funny, very funny, infact I think I just wet myself laughing. BTW I have forwarded it on to a number of ex QR people I know who, I hope, will do the same and get it into the charts. All I ask is that those in the know do likewise.
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abus....

If you think this place is as expensive as you say.. then i have to wonder what rock you were living under before you came to QR,, as the prices here are not that far off any other place that I have lived in the past...
Nor are the people that rude or as ignorant as some places I have visited before either..
it's true that this is place has a higher cost of living compared to other places with a bit more ammenities.. but nothing as outragious as you would like to make it seem.. and as for the folks who own this country,, they are very helpfully and accomidating as long as you are polite and show them some respect,, as you would anyone for that matter.. no room for attitudes here....after all we are all guests in their country.. we don't own it .. they do...

By the sounds of things,, i'll have to venture a guess that your not so accomidating to immigrants to your country,,

For the one who wants to know... as long as you approach this place with an open mind and respect the local cultures and way of doing things,, (which can be a bit difficult sometimes).. you will get along just fine... it's ignorant people with no patients or respenct for other peoples differences,,, and persons that try to drag their cultures into this one ,, are the poeple that have a hard time with things out here..
as for me... I'M LUVING IT BABY...

Good job.. good local food... good local folks... good tan = goodtime

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what to do???

If u like playing golf and nothing else then go ,go like the wind,if u don't like playing golf don't waste your time M.xx
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I have to agree with captain crunch on this one....

As told before I tend to say only the truth here, regardless if that is positive or negative but these cry babies here are pushing it a bit too far....

C'mon guys, you all came here out of free will....try to be a bit honest as well...

Fair enough, you dont like it here.....sorry to hear that but at least give others a chance....

The things you say here about the locals are very very generalised .....sure, there are ignorant bastards but dont we find those every where around the world....

Besides that, they litererally own this country and we are guests....so treat them with some respect!

Jeezes, thats like the stupid ones being angry that QR is being ran by locals.....so what? I mean, just try to imagine AF or BA being run by non nationals!!! Thats exactly the same isnt it?

And no, I am not a glue sniffer, a kiss ass or a qatari.....
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Yeah,I have to agree on that point.
food,lifestyle,attitude of peiple are not that bad as mentioned here by another member.however when it comes to house rent ,this could be a bit high.

BUT,regarding Qatar airways:Yes,the air line is run by animals,led by a brainless oryx,surrounded by a$$ licking idots!

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Thumbs down Yeah! right.... these two guys are worst than the Prime Minister of Irak

Capt. Crunch & Qatari 515

Not again! You two should run the evening Al Jazera's show and be more honest in your posts and besides I am not being disrespectful to any one nor to any nationality I am just saying that this place is below my expectations and way below my western standard of level of living. So for your information
I wasn't living under a rock!

Yes, they are a few nice people.....! but very few!
Food: I only eat at the Ritz! So I won't know any other but gimme a break! Qmart, Carrefour, all products out of date stuff! and expensive Saudia's brand what is this.......!

Rent never in my life was asked to sing blank checks and a one year contract written in Arabic. I also find out a few days a go that a local land lord offered an Arabic person a way much lower monthly $8500 Qr rate in the same bachelors penthouse that I try to acquire! So and so etc, etc, I am bailing out of here ASAP

They try to emulate the western style of living but they hate our guts! Starbucks Coffe and Chilies OK! but no Booze nor Petruse

Although, some of the Lebanese girls are fine! especially the one I'm dating
but the rest in Qatar Airways suck's Bunch of morons! except few of my buddies!

My left seat is priceless but willing to give it up to come home!
So, New Recruit you make your own decision but, If was you I stay at home. unless you are desperate! for a few $

As per the other two guys if you are Chappy or Happy good for ya....!



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Abuspilot,


I do not know where you come from or where you are living right now but one thing is sure.....the things you
are saying are not true at all!

"I am not being disrespectful to any one nor to any nationality I am just saying that this place is below my expectations and way below my western standard of level of living"

You are disrespectfull my friend! You are living in a foreign country so you should adapt to the local customs and habits! What is more, this is a muslim middle eastern country which makes it even more difficult.
What is true that they know very well what our standards of living are and they will ask money for that....a lot of money! But you should have done your research before you came here! I knew prices of housing where high ( between 6000QR and 10000QR/Month), shooling fees are high as well .....etc But you can find that all on the internet!
Do you think its any different in the surrounding places. Rental prices in Bahrain just doubled ( 2000€/month is no excemtion any more). Dubai the same thing unless you will find work at EK, which obviously you dont otherwise you would not be here!!!!But thy are as arrogant in BAH and DXB as they are here.....so maybe its just you having troubles adapting!


"Food: I only eat at the Ritz! So I won't know any other but gimme a break! Qmart, Carrefour, all products out of date stuff! and expensive Saudia's brand what is this.......!"

You sound like a spoiled child man! You only eat at the Ritz????Rubish! Carrefour, Qmart, Landmark.....They are all of the same standards as in my homeland and they rae as expensive as well! Exactly the same with exactly the same products!!!!!Sop what are you talking about? Only difference is that they have a wide range of arabic, indian, ....foodstuff as well!

"Rent never in my life was asked to sing blank checks and a one year contract written in Arabic. I also find out a few days a go that a local land lord offered an Arabic person a way much lower monthly $8500 Qr rate in the same bachelors penthouse that I try to acquire! So and so etc, etc, I am bailing out of here ASAP"

Neither was I so I never did it as well! I am living in a very nice compound, I have an English written contract, I pay per check every month and no arabs are allowed in here! Before you rent a place next time look around a little bit....maybe you will not get screwed then!


"They try to emulate the western style of living but they hate our guts! Starbucks Coffe and Chilies OK! but no Booze nor Petruse"

They do not hate our guts as long as you adapt a little bit to them as well! Its true, they wont like it when you are kissing in froont of them etc .....so what! Cut them some slack and they will do the same! It might come to a surprise to you but some good friends of mine are Qatari and I can assure you that a m
lot of this bull is based on misunderstandings...try to read a bit about their way of living man!

The booze thing......you should have known that before. Besides that, why would you need alcohol in a starbucks????As far as I know thats the same in the states


"Although, some of the Lebanese girls are fine! especially the one I'm dating
but the rest in Qatar Airways suck's Bunch of morons! except few of my buddies! "

I suggest you to leave then.....You are ruining it all for the rest of us here who actually enjoy being here. So Lebanese girls are good enough to screw around with then but for the rest you hate the guts of all arabs!!!!Nice attitude man!
Just go away! Theres plenty of jobs around. I am sick and tired of cry babies always complaining how bad it is here, how they hate the place that much but still they do not have the balls to do anything about it....Nobody is forcing you to stay.....

For your info, a lot of people do actually enjoy it here, not just me or capt crunch.......

Open your eyes my friend....you are waisting your own precious time on this globe!
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Capt Krunch and Q515 are spot on - Qatar is different from London or Sydney, and it is up to us expats to adapt to local conditions and customs - not the other way round. This is a conservative Islamic society, and considering that the Qataris are impressively and increasingly tolerant of our foibles and weaknesses - why should they be required to do more simply to have the continued pleasure of employing us? The first rule of expat life is "adapt" - if you can't do that, then leave.......

There are too many professional whingers on this site, whose only response is to seek out the negative and ridicule those who see things differently. I sometimes wonder who has the attitude problem.......

Bottom line; many people love being in Qatar. Qatar Airways may not be perfect, but it is improving, and as a member of the sadly under-represented SLF community, my own experiences have been increasingly positive. Good crews, good planes, good service ideas, good punctuality, ok food. Has this all happened by accident? There will now doubtless be a torrent of abuse to let me know I'm AAB's lickspittle or worse, but he does happen to be the man in charge of an increasingly effective outfit.

Gain some perspective people; if you really hate it that much, then don't torture yourselves (or us) any longer - just go.
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" If you don't like it leave"- twit. People are after perceptions of Qatar and Qatar airwys. Because they have a different opinion to you doesn't mean they should leave the country.

Qatar, in my opinion , not a pleasant place and the locals often trying. They are anti-Western but totally Western relaint. My opinion again.

You mention Sydney and London. I can guarrantee the same opportunities offered by these 21st century nations to visiting, residing or Qatari immigrants a hell of a lot different to what is reciprocated in Doha.

Al Jazeera should use it's world renowned "investigative journalism" and have a look within- Qatar Airways especially.

Much easier to promote the fallacy of Arab nationalism.
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Qatar515:

Thank you.. you took the words right out of my mouth... I also like it here,, yes i agree that at times it can be a bit difficult to do somewhat simple tasks,, but thats just the way it is... it's a different country,, different way of doing things.. just takes some getting used too.

as for ABUSPILOT.......... GET LOST !!!!!!!! the sooner we get rid of guys like you the better this place will be..

I have to ask.... who is forcing you to stay here if you hate it so much... you dont like it, so leave,, your not held here against your will you know..

you only eat at the Ritz.... hahahahahahahaha.. sounds to me like this is the first time you have been this far away from your mamma....
must have been the first time you went to a Supermarket also,,as you seem to think they all only have western style foods....

Jeez,, talk about tunnel vision....

I really like the fact that i can buy stuff from home and also able to find good Thai ,, Arab ,, Indian ,, and other enthnic foods...

But i think i got ABUSPILOTS number.. as his logo light is shining in the distance and can just about make it out... (know what I mean abus)
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I feel he is on a "show off" tour here instead of addressing the topic.....all he writes about is his meals at "Ritz" and the Lebanese girls he dates....hahahahaha from me too!!!!
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