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What's with the rumour about ek suspending recruiment for the foreseeable future. I've heard that it's something to do with the engine problems on the B777 and the delayed (yet again!!) delivery of the A340's.
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A friend of mine went thru the selection last week and it was all systems go. Emirates are recruiting more than ever, rumour is they may even increase the intake due to new aircraft orders.
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Fully agree Obi Wan Kirk and Flat Spot...Absolutely thru!!!
Next year crews for the equivalent of 19 new aircraft, will be hired. This includes about 15 330 & 777 and a few 340 which will be double crewed. This logically means more than 1 new aircraft per month.
Recruitement is turning on a never seen rate, for the ones in the hold pool defenitively good news!
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Next year crews for the equivalent of 19 new aircraft, will be hired. This includes about 15 330 & 777 and a few 340 which will be double crewed. This logically means more than 1 new aircraft per month.
Recruitement is turning on a never seen rate, for the ones in the hold pool defenitively good news!
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Trust me, we are getting the planes, we need the Pilots, A340 arrival has slipped a little (month or two) until June, but only for the first one or two, after that as planned.
Recruiting to step up again in the next few months.
With the hold file bulging, priority given to 330 / 777 endorsed candidates.
There have been many non-rated pilots accepted recently so this priority is new for recruitment.
With a high interview failure rate at times, it may not be long before the pool of already endorsed candidates dries up.
Good luck all, keep plodding away, EK expansion a way to go yet!
With the hold file bulging, priority given to 330 / 777 endorsed candidates.
There have been many non-rated pilots accepted recently so this priority is new for recruitment.
With a high interview failure rate at times, it may not be long before the pool of already endorsed candidates dries up.
Good luck all, keep plodding away, EK expansion a way to go yet!
I'm starting to worry a bit. I have sent in the internet application form over 3 weeks ago and have not received a reply. I am 44 yo 8400 hrs total, 3900 multi-engined RPT jet (930 jet command), am I what they are looking for? Is there another way to send a CV in? Replies please
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Just wait. I know guys who have been in the hold pool for over a year. "Don't call us, we'll call you" is applicable. Keep updating.
BTW, the "I am what they need" attitude is something they may not like all that much. Good luck anyway.
BTW, the "I am what they need" attitude is something they may not like all that much. Good luck anyway.
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Hi!
It seems that you are EK staff or someone well informed on what's going on over there.
May I ask you something: I am a wide body (Efis, non Airbus, non 777) Captain, with more than 12,000 hr, almost 9,000 as PIC on jet transport aircraft and relatively young at the high 40s.
I filled the online application form and after a week got a response stating that they are not requiring DECs for a while.(I've clicked the corresponding "captain" field when asked for position sought, instead of F/O).
Do you think there are chances into the foresseable future EK would consider hiring high experienced wide body DECs?
If, what would be the probatory F/O time for Captains with such experience level? Is there a seniority list for new hire F/Os, regarding upgrading to captain?
Best regards!
It seems that you are EK staff or someone well informed on what's going on over there.
May I ask you something: I am a wide body (Efis, non Airbus, non 777) Captain, with more than 12,000 hr, almost 9,000 as PIC on jet transport aircraft and relatively young at the high 40s.
I filled the online application form and after a week got a response stating that they are not requiring DECs for a while.(I've clicked the corresponding "captain" field when asked for position sought, instead of F/O).
Do you think there are chances into the foresseable future EK would consider hiring high experienced wide body DECs?
If, what would be the probatory F/O time for Captains with such experience level? Is there a seniority list for new hire F/Os, regarding upgrading to captain?
Best regards!
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With the planned expansion you would have thought there would be a future need for DEC but the Sept 11 has dumped a lot of quite experienced ex-Capts in the EK camp and all are expected to achieve commands right on the 3 year limit.
If it got tight then EK will probably use their "accelerated command" rule, but they don't envisage requiring DECs at any stage. So we're told.
Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear.
If it got tight then EK will probably use their "accelerated command" rule, but they don't envisage requiring DECs at any stage. So we're told.
Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear.
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Full Forward.
EK has hired almost exclusively former captains, because of the fast lead-in time to command, and because the market is in their favour.
There is very very little chance that we will ever see DEC in EK. There is an accelerated command path, which might upgrade you 6 months faster. If you really want the job, do as us: Turn in your four stripes and enjoy living in Dubai. Command will come soon enough.
EK has hired almost exclusively former captains, because of the fast lead-in time to command, and because the market is in their favour.
There is very very little chance that we will ever see DEC in EK. There is an accelerated command path, which might upgrade you 6 months faster. If you really want the job, do as us: Turn in your four stripes and enjoy living in Dubai. Command will come soon enough.
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Thanks for the nicefully straightforward replies.
I don't know your present professional status, but, frankly speaking, do you think it would worth, after all these years as being called Mr.Captain, bearing the hard earned 4 stripes for almost two decades, on a stable job (though a misery salary...)
downgrade to copilot?
And expect to be checked and treated as a rookie by somebody sometimes half your experience? Is there a seniority list for F/Os? Based on what?
If the salary really meant you could really change your lifestlyle, maybe. But is this the case?
Thanks for the nicefully straightforward replies.
I don't know your present professional status, but, frankly speaking, do you think it would worth, after all these years as being called Mr.Captain, bearing the hard earned 4 stripes for almost two decades, on a stable job (though a misery salary...)
downgrade to copilot?
And expect to be checked and treated as a rookie by somebody sometimes half your experience? Is there a seniority list for F/Os? Based on what?
If the salary really meant you could really change your lifestlyle, maybe. But is this the case?
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Why the necessity to advertise for two exective pilot positions in Flight when EK prides itself on being able to select only the best? Surely with their exceptional talent of picking only exceptional pilots they would have dozens of exceptional candidates within!!!
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Fullforward,
If you want a job with EK, don't let your pride get in the way. If you really WANT the job, you should have no problem considering hopping into the right seat for a wee while. The bloke on your left won't treat you like a rookie. You would be treated like a person the captain is flying with. If you have so much experience and have been a captain elsewhere for so many years, that is by no means going to make the guy on your left think any less of you.
Are you from North America? The description of a first officer and a captain is very different over there than in Europe/Mid East/Australia. I read an interesting article in Airliners or Airways magasine on the road to being a captain. The article is based on flying in the US, and kept emphasising if you are a new first officer, your main job was to set the flaps, raise the gear and do a good job filling out the paperwork. If you were LUCKY, the captain may allow you to land, but only in the finest of weather. This is not the same over in Europe and the Mid east. The two guys up front take on an equal amount of work. Unless the weather is FAR too hazerdous for a ROOKIE F/O, the flying works on the captain flying one leg, F/O the next and it carries on alternating like that. No waiting to see if the captain will allow you to take off or land. Its standard procedure to allow both pilots to alternate with each sector. Yes, the captain is in charge and has the last say, of course, but it is more of an equal team effort in the flight deck.
I am not an EK pilot, but hope to get the chance some day in the future. I know a good few EK pilots, mostly captains and they are a good bunch of folks. Not the type of guys who will say "shut up, Im the captain, Ive got four stripes. Do what I say!" With your type of seniority, you couldn't be treated with any less respect than an equal other on the flight deck. Dubai is an awsome place, with great people, great lifestyle and an airline with the finest fleet of planes in the world. If you have the oppertunity to join, sod the pride aspect. There is nothing wrong with sitting in the right seat for a while and with (what sounds like) a big salary and package increase, you would be daft not to make a go at it.
Good Luck
BYB
If you want a job with EK, don't let your pride get in the way. If you really WANT the job, you should have no problem considering hopping into the right seat for a wee while. The bloke on your left won't treat you like a rookie. You would be treated like a person the captain is flying with. If you have so much experience and have been a captain elsewhere for so many years, that is by no means going to make the guy on your left think any less of you.
Are you from North America? The description of a first officer and a captain is very different over there than in Europe/Mid East/Australia. I read an interesting article in Airliners or Airways magasine on the road to being a captain. The article is based on flying in the US, and kept emphasising if you are a new first officer, your main job was to set the flaps, raise the gear and do a good job filling out the paperwork. If you were LUCKY, the captain may allow you to land, but only in the finest of weather. This is not the same over in Europe and the Mid east. The two guys up front take on an equal amount of work. Unless the weather is FAR too hazerdous for a ROOKIE F/O, the flying works on the captain flying one leg, F/O the next and it carries on alternating like that. No waiting to see if the captain will allow you to take off or land. Its standard procedure to allow both pilots to alternate with each sector. Yes, the captain is in charge and has the last say, of course, but it is more of an equal team effort in the flight deck.
I am not an EK pilot, but hope to get the chance some day in the future. I know a good few EK pilots, mostly captains and they are a good bunch of folks. Not the type of guys who will say "shut up, Im the captain, Ive got four stripes. Do what I say!" With your type of seniority, you couldn't be treated with any less respect than an equal other on the flight deck. Dubai is an awsome place, with great people, great lifestyle and an airline with the finest fleet of planes in the world. If you have the oppertunity to join, sod the pride aspect. There is nothing wrong with sitting in the right seat for a while and with (what sounds like) a big salary and package increase, you would be daft not to make a go at it.
Good Luck
BYB
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BYB is pretty well on the mark, EK does not recruit pilots direct to the Left seat, 3 years to command is pretty well the norm nowadays, most people pass their command upgrades because they are recruited correctly to start with.
Cockpit gradient is pretty shallow MOST of the time, you will be treated largely as an equal MOST of the time.
Emirates is a great airline to work in for all kinds of reasons, wether you can give up a left seat for a few years and occasionally bite your tounge is up to you.
Finally to all those who are applying, don't give up, the recruitment system takes time, no matter how much experience you have.
Cockpit gradient is pretty shallow MOST of the time, you will be treated largely as an equal MOST of the time.
Emirates is a great airline to work in for all kinds of reasons, wether you can give up a left seat for a few years and occasionally bite your tounge is up to you.
Finally to all those who are applying, don't give up, the recruitment system takes time, no matter how much experience you have.
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Thanks again, BYB, Alphaprot
My main concern is, once admitted as FO, will be a seniority list regarding promotion to captain or at least clear rules and criteria to do so when the needing arise?
And as for lifestyle at Dubai, with FO salary, what one would expect?
My main concern is, once admitted as FO, will be a seniority list regarding promotion to captain or at least clear rules and criteria to do so when the needing arise?
And as for lifestyle at Dubai, with FO salary, what one would expect?
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Full forward,
Yes there will be a seniority list and you will be promoted in order of seniority. Sorry if I have mis-read you but.... Your previous posts give the uncomfortable feeling that you think because of your previous background you deserve to jump in at the top of the tree. Guess what, once you have the requisite experience, you actually don't get more experienced with more hours just older.
If you are totally command orientated and money focused Dubai will not be the place for you. You have to want to live here and have the humility to suck up 3 years as an F/O before taking a command. Everyone EK recruits are selected on the basis of joining to be captains in short order.
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Yes there will be a seniority list and you will be promoted in order of seniority. Sorry if I have mis-read you but.... Your previous posts give the uncomfortable feeling that you think because of your previous background you deserve to jump in at the top of the tree. Guess what, once you have the requisite experience, you actually don't get more experienced with more hours just older.
If you are totally command orientated and money focused Dubai will not be the place for you. You have to want to live here and have the humility to suck up 3 years as an F/O before taking a command. Everyone EK recruits are selected on the basis of joining to be captains in short order.
Ghost