Qatari Airbus A380 Aircraft
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Qatari Airbus A380 Aircraft
Can anyone confirm - despite what recently appeared in the media - if Qatar Airways have now confirmed and finalised their options of the Airbus A380?
In a recent Middle East Business publication, the CEO suggested that the order had still NOT been finalised, however reports from Farnborough suggested differently.
In a recent Middle East Business publication, the CEO suggested that the order had still NOT been finalised, however reports from Farnborough suggested differently.
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URTF,
Sorry for the spelling. According to quotes from many interviews and press conferences with Al-Baker they are definitely getting them. I was only able to find one interview on me now.
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"FLUG REVUE: But that means you have not yet signed the final purchase contracts for the A380.
Al Baker: Yes, that is correct, we have paid a very high deposit and signed a Memorandum of Understanding, but the actual contracts have not yet been signed. The aircraft has not yet been finally defined, and one cannot sign a contract until the precise design has been fixed. Other launch customers have not yet signed either. But there is absolutely no doubt that we shall be ordering these planes in the near future."
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I guess this is good enough proof that QR will get the A388.
Sorry for the spelling. According to quotes from many interviews and press conferences with Al-Baker they are definitely getting them. I was only able to find one interview on me now.
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"FLUG REVUE: But that means you have not yet signed the final purchase contracts for the A380.
Al Baker: Yes, that is correct, we have paid a very high deposit and signed a Memorandum of Understanding, but the actual contracts have not yet been signed. The aircraft has not yet been finally defined, and one cannot sign a contract until the precise design has been fixed. Other launch customers have not yet signed either. But there is absolutely no doubt that we shall be ordering these planes in the near future."
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I guess this is good enough proof that QR will get the A388.
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UTRF,
So is Al-Baker lying in all the interviews and press conferences he has done in the past 18 months??? Tony Seville lying too??? how about all the QR and Airbus staff I have been talking to?. All the business/aviation journals, newpapers, magazines, websites and televised programs I have read/saw?
Your profile says that you are in Qatar and so you probably are working for QR. Do you know anything about the A380 that we don't know?
So is Al-Baker lying in all the interviews and press conferences he has done in the past 18 months??? Tony Seville lying too??? how about all the QR and Airbus staff I have been talking to?. All the business/aviation journals, newpapers, magazines, websites and televised programs I have read/saw?
Your profile says that you are in Qatar and so you probably are working for QR. Do you know anything about the A380 that we don't know?
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MTQatar are you AAB,if not you really have not a single clue about what goes on in QR.AAB has NOT signed any firm "contracts"AAB does not understand contracts or recognise them with regard to his own employees.SEEING IS BELIEVING my boy.Open yer eyes.
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Kenoco,
First of all don't EVER call me "boy"
and second of all YOU should open your eyes and look at my previous post.
The quote from Al-Baker, that I used in my previous post says:
"FLUG REVUE: But that means you have not yet signed the final purchase contracts for the A380.
Al Baker: Yes, that is correct, we have paid a very high deposit and signed a Memorandum of Understanding, but the actual contracts have not yet been signed."
and again take your advice and open your eyes to see my signature and you'll know that I'm not AAB.
First of all don't EVER call me "boy"
and second of all YOU should open your eyes and look at my previous post. The quote from Al-Baker, that I used in my previous post says:
"FLUG REVUE: But that means you have not yet signed the final purchase contracts for the A380.
Al Baker: Yes, that is correct, we have paid a very high deposit and signed a Memorandum of Understanding, but the actual contracts have not yet been signed."
and again take your advice and open your eyes to see my signature and you'll know that I'm not AAB.
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As usual a lot of slagging off about Qatar, this time the acquisition of the A380 aircraft. To make matters worse, naming individuals & questing if they are lying or not. This on top of spelling their names incorrectly.
Maybe you all need a lesson in aircraft acquisition & the process. You start with a agreement for the aircraft & then a long process take place during which you agree specifications with the manufacturer and / or lease company about what equipment is to be installed on you aircraft: - Avionics fit, engines, APU, wheels / brakes, cabin config / safety equipment, galleys and the list goes on.
There are also a lot of issues on what routes you want to operate the aircraft, performance, cargo capability, fuel burn guarantees etc. You also have to see if your destination airports will be able to handle an aircraft of the A380’s size in this case.
While all this is going on hopefully the airline engineering department is trying to get the best deal on support from the various vendors to help decide what to fit & confirm they will be able to supply the equipment to meet the delivery schedule. Not until all the homework has been done do you go firm & sign up.
Just because the manufacturer has a nice shiny new toy does not mean you commit until you do the full research, which is what is happening here.
Just the same as buying a house. You put an offer "subject to contract", so you can get a survey & all searches carried out.
I only look at the ME forum as I was thinking of moving out that direction. All that seems to be on is a continual bashing of anything remotely linked to Qatar.
If you have had a bad time or problems with an employer you can always move on. No one is forcing you to stay. Once you have moved on stay moved on & don't keep bitching or having digs about something no one wants to hear about.
Maybe you all need a lesson in aircraft acquisition & the process. You start with a agreement for the aircraft & then a long process take place during which you agree specifications with the manufacturer and / or lease company about what equipment is to be installed on you aircraft: - Avionics fit, engines, APU, wheels / brakes, cabin config / safety equipment, galleys and the list goes on.
There are also a lot of issues on what routes you want to operate the aircraft, performance, cargo capability, fuel burn guarantees etc. You also have to see if your destination airports will be able to handle an aircraft of the A380’s size in this case.
While all this is going on hopefully the airline engineering department is trying to get the best deal on support from the various vendors to help decide what to fit & confirm they will be able to supply the equipment to meet the delivery schedule. Not until all the homework has been done do you go firm & sign up.
Just because the manufacturer has a nice shiny new toy does not mean you commit until you do the full research, which is what is happening here.
Just the same as buying a house. You put an offer "subject to contract", so you can get a survey & all searches carried out.
I only look at the ME forum as I was thinking of moving out that direction. All that seems to be on is a continual bashing of anything remotely linked to Qatar.
If you have had a bad time or problems with an employer you can always move on. No one is forcing you to stay. Once you have moved on stay moved on & don't keep bitching or having digs about something no one wants to hear about.
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hello
well its a free world make up your own mind but do you not find it a bit strange that so many people have a problem with QR.Lets put it this way,if you were going to buy a car and dozens of your friends had big problems with this car would you go and still buy it????There are many people who have had problems with QR not just moi,dosn't the very high staff turnover at QR tell its own story.Once again its a free world well except for Doha.haha.
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Kenoco and Facts Please,
Both of you are correct. we are all entitled to our opinions and also there is (as Facts Please stated) a number of considerations that a company needs to make before he buys his new car or aircraft.
There are some problems at QR regarding staff turnover and morale, etc, and I ASSURE anyone who has never experienced QR dircetly, that this is a real difficulty out here. Unless you have been employed by QR or are close to the Company, then you could NEVER appreciate the comments being made by some of the crew and staff. In today's economic climate, sadly no-one can just get out if they don't like it.............as with many companies, and not just airlines, many staff remain in a job they dont like because there is no immediate commercial alternative. They need to work to earn and support their families back home, etc.....
However, things are changing at QR - slowly, but changing.
As for the A380 - and I know that I posted the original question on this thread, please let me assure you (and trust me) that Qatar WILL be ordering the aircraft officially. Indeed, I have since found out that the current situation in Doha w.r.t. this aircraft is excatly as described by Mr. Facts Please above.
Take care.
Both of you are correct. we are all entitled to our opinions and also there is (as Facts Please stated) a number of considerations that a company needs to make before he buys his new car or aircraft.
There are some problems at QR regarding staff turnover and morale, etc, and I ASSURE anyone who has never experienced QR dircetly, that this is a real difficulty out here. Unless you have been employed by QR or are close to the Company, then you could NEVER appreciate the comments being made by some of the crew and staff. In today's economic climate, sadly no-one can just get out if they don't like it.............as with many companies, and not just airlines, many staff remain in a job they dont like because there is no immediate commercial alternative. They need to work to earn and support their families back home, etc.....
However, things are changing at QR - slowly, but changing.
As for the A380 - and I know that I posted the original question on this thread, please let me assure you (and trust me) that Qatar WILL be ordering the aircraft officially. Indeed, I have since found out that the current situation in Doha w.r.t. this aircraft is excatly as described by Mr. Facts Please above.
Take care.
