RIA Saudi Airlines?

[Truetoga]

Heres the link

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/video...der-soon-video

[WrldWide]

Originally Posted by Truetoga

Apparently latest interview says they have 45000 pilots registered with all their details…sounds like a lot of experienced current and type rated crew.

The first part of this statement means that is how many people have applied. It is by no means any indication of qualification and or experience. Of course the interviewee would like us all to believe that pilots are beating down the door to get in, but how could this be if no one knows what the actual package includes?

[Truetoga]

Originally Posted by WrldWide

The first part of this statement means that is how many people have applied. It is by no means any indication of qualification and or experience. Of course the interviewee would like us all to believe that pilots are beating down the door to get in, but how could this be if no one knows what the actual package includes?

My thoughts exactly. Maybe they included cabin crew with that 🙃 I don’t even think the application form lets you apply without ticking if you have met the 2000hr req on type.

[Qbix]

Originally Posted by Truetoga

Apparently latest interview says they have 45000 pilots registered with all their details…sounds like a lot of experienced current and type rated crew.

also they’re offering market rates to move to saudi…so i think they’re banking on getting quality guys to move to saudi based on being part of “riyadh story”, not to mention confidently relying on boeing to deliver on time..

This guy is a lunatic if he thinks that he has 45.000 pilots to choose from. If their requirements are 787 TR then I can bet you that he doesn't have more than 2000 applications which most of are just guys checking what's on the table. If you include 777 rated guys that number is much higher but again not all are willing to live in Riyhad especially those that built nice seniority with their carriers (pension salary etc). If you make 20k plus pension have family well settled why on earth would you like to go there? For the sake of 5k extra?

[Camel herder]

45000 pilots, I don't think so.... lol

[allaru]

• We all know that there are not that many type rated and experienced pilots around willing to give up their seniority, jump ship and move to Saudi.
• "Many Nationalities" good luck with your multi cultural aspirations and sorting out the wheat from the chaff, certifying qualifications from dodgy places, fake licenses, parker pen hours and the biggest issue which will be interviewing 30 candidates to find that only one is suitable. Established carriers can do this as their ongoing recruitment numbers are fairly low and they typically only need non type rated FOs. When you need to recruit large numbers of experienced Captains and FOs you won't have the time or the resources to low ball and fluff about. You need to target reliable demographics with experience and time on type, and for that you will need to pay.
• Market rates, good one. Even with the + 30% loading which is the standard expat starting offer for relocating from the Gulf to Saudi it won't go close to attracting experienced pilots.
• To quote STC "Good luck to them is what I say".

[Hitchiker]

If you make 20k plus pension have family well settled why on earth would you like to go there? For the sake of 5k extra?

Maybe if they will offer 15on/15off and 20k to line pilots somebody will go.Consider all type rated local pilots from neighboring countries who have already applied hired but Moving from westernized places to Saudi will be a tough call also for the above mentioned guys.

​​​​​​​This guy is a lunatic if he thinks that he has 45.000 pilots to choose from.

Man RIA are paying this gentleman a fortune to push this outfit and Saudi up,what do you think he should say”where the hell am I going to find experienced pilots willing to join this place?”He would probably lose his job and something else in a heartbeat.Remember what somebody wrote here about a bone saw…
He gets paid to nod and smile…That’s all he needs and wants to do.
buyers beware.

[Hitchiker]

Not to mention the added risk of being part of a “startup” in a country with few or no “legal protections”

that’s maybe the most important point….all the ME3 fired pilots,sure it was not pleasant to be laid off,got paid until last cent with additional money given too in some cases .In that part of the desert contract validity and labor laws are not legally binding,if the boss has decided that is over for some reason all the polished pages of your contract,hands shaken ,kisses ,my friend etc will disappear,unless you are a big shot .
Do your researches and tell me if I am wrong .
better less with dignity that more without self respect
safe skies

[mutt]

You are forgetting that pilots are a profession that needs to be nationalized, so they will draw from the local market. Its the other local airlines that will suffer.

[Truetoga]

Originally Posted by mutt

You are forgetting that pilots are a profession that needs to be nationalized, so they will draw from the local market. Its the other local airlines that will suffer.

true. But I doubt Saudia would be happy if they deplete half their pilots…and probably there must be some agreement to avoid that also between the two, especially when they also are expanding. I doubt Saudi has many available jobless and current type rated pilots available, they might have cadets being trained but the last thing a startup needs is inexperienced guys flying widebodys from day 1

[mutt]

Once they have 25 years of service, saudia can’t stop them leaving and taking a nice pension.

[Twiglet1]

15 on 15 off isn't that part time....

[GearDown320]

Lots of hot air blowing, too much hype with no substance. Don't you guys think?..

Imho, RIA will get a rude awakening when they ACTUALLY start their recruitment for line guys and find that their delayed recruitment, AND late release on information of their package got most people (who actually qualify their requirements) tired of their hot air and are unwilling to make the jump OR simply just moved on

[WrldWide]

Originally Posted by Twiglet1

15 on 15 off isn't that part time....

Not if you put in 85 hrs in that 15 on.

[weimaraners]

Anybody know if they have started hiring Line Pilots already? Has the hiring process started or it's still on the making?

[Qbix]

Originally Posted by weimaraners

Anybody know if they have started hiring Line Pilots already? Has the hiring process started or it's still on the making?

Latest I heard is that next year they will start interviewing LPs. Around May.

[twtiger]

I think it will be a while. Plus still no announcement about the narrowbody fleet. I won't be surprised if they go with Airbus considering they are advertising for Airbus and Boeing TR guys and most large middle eastern carriers have both Airbus and Boeing fleets.

[tinfish]

Doubt it.

Airbus experience is only for FO. Capts only 777 and 787.

Originally Posted by twtiger

I think it will be a while. Plus still no announcement about the narrowbody fleet. I won't be surprised if they go with Airbus considering they are advertising for Airbus and Boeing TR guys and most large middle eastern carriers have both Airbus and Boeing fleets.

[tinfish]

Still Hiring CAPT/FO.

If they really had applications from 45000 pilots then why is the job still advertised on the website.

[tinfish]

Seems reasonable. Where did you get this onfo from?