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Emirates Application 2022

Old 4th Aug 2022, 10:50
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Originally Posted by McToryMug View Post
The hours are factored so they don't count towards your annual limit and you aren't paid for them neither. I have averaged close to 1100 hours a year (not including the pandemic). When you are coming close to the 900 hour limit prediction, they will roster you for ULRs to maximise your productivity.
Why do the EU and the US even allow EK to operate into their airspace. 1100 hours annually is insane.
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Old 4th Aug 2022, 11:58
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Originally Posted by McToryMug View Post
The hours are factored so they don't count towards your annual limit and you aren't paid for them neither. I have averaged close to 1100 hours a year (not including the pandemic). When you are coming close to the 900 hour limit prediction, they will roster you for ULRs to maximise your productivity.
Thats interesting - I get paid for all my hours including deadhead and factored
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Old 4th Aug 2022, 12:25
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Originally Posted by Kennytheking View Post
Thats interesting - I get paid for all my hours including deadhead and factored
I don’t think pay was the question. It was how many hours you actually spend in the aircraft.
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Old 4th Aug 2022, 12:43
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
I don’t think pay was the question. It was how many hours you actually spend in the aircraft.
Yes indeed. The pay crept into one of the answers and I was correcting the misinformation.

I have also never come close to 1100 hours but I can’t comment on what other people are doing.
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Old 4th Aug 2022, 14:13
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Oh, so that is the same slavery scam rostering like 230 NM WEST, that will likely kill you before retirement age. Roger that SIR,

Maybe someone should mention that under their new job ads where they talk about 850 - 900 hours per year. They are just a bunch of cheating liars.
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Old 4th Aug 2022, 14:31
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Just to share that the camel skin drums are resounding to the tune of DECs. Nothing official but this is a rumour forum afterall and given the apparent increase in numbers that are leaving, it would not surprise me in the slightest.
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Old 4th Aug 2022, 20:09
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Originally Posted by level_change View Post
Oh, so that is the same slavery scam rostering like 230 NM WEST, that will likely kill you before retirement age. Roger that SIR,

Maybe someone should mention that under their new job ads where they talk about 850 - 900 hours per year. They are just a bunch of cheating liars.
Yes not to mention time spent in the back of a sim. 1000 plus hours a year over the pole is not going to do your health any good in the medium long term. Scary.

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Old 4th Aug 2022, 20:12
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Originally Posted by flyek View Post
can someone confirm this, please? I have lad whos currently with flydubai who said Emirates won't hire anyone from flydubai directly. is this true
Even if it is a rule there is no requirement for any transparency so you need not be told or know.

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Old 5th Aug 2022, 03:03
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Anyone know if they’re willing to accept applications from someone approx. 100hrs short of the stated requirements?
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 06:24
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Lots of guys leaving EK now for better jobs
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 06:45
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Originally Posted by Mike Koal View Post
Lots of guys leaving EK now for better jobs
I wouldn’t say better. I have recently flown with an FO rejoiner who is already leaving EK for a 5 year contract job in Vietnam. I tried to suggest that this wouldn’t necessarily be a great option but it was a waste of time. The BOE recently making a statement that a year long recession is on its way.

He had spent most of the pandemic fitting boilers in to houses in Ireland. Having been made redundant massively out of seniority the company probably had something minor against him.

Times have certainly changed though.
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 10:13
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The negativity on this thread is laughable. There are people here asking genuine question about joining EK. With todays current environment, EK is a fantastic option. The salary is more than competitive, the housing is more than adequate, staff travel is excellent. Training has come a long way with the new EBT format. Most of the 'Bad Apples' have been removed from training or have left the company.

Furthermore, rumour has it that the requirements to join EK will drop to unfrozen ATPL. Opening the door for many new pilots to apply.

You know as well as I do, that there are restrictions as to how many Polar Flights you can operate in a given time.

Originally Posted by Emma Royds View Post
Just to share that the camel skin drums are resounding to the tune of DECs. Nothing official but this is a rumour forum afterall and given the apparent increase in numbers that are leaving, it would not surprise me in the slightest.
With the imminent arrival of the A350, its possible that EK will open up to DECs with current ratings and time on type.

Originally Posted by SaulGoodman View Post
Why do the EU and the US even allow EK to operate into their airspace. 1100 hours annually is insane.
Because it's not true. If it were the case that EK were operating like this, they would be pulled up by regulators.
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 11:38
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Originally Posted by Mike Koal View Post
Lots of guys leaving EK now for better jobs
Where are the better jobs? Why are you spreading rumours?
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 12:15
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Just having a read through the posts here, I think it important for anyone considering moving to UAE to ask someone who has first hand knowledge and experience in Dubai. Preferably someone who is actually in the company. Getting info from this lot on PPRuNe is not a good way to build a picture of life in Dubai.

That being said, you need to have your eyes open. Keep you current license and ratings valid, be mindful that you are always 3 months away from going back to where you came from. Absolutely, enjoy your life in Dubai, but don't make it the be all and end all. Its not all beer and skittles here lads.

Training is absolutely as everyone here has said. Every time you open yourself up to the training department you have the possibility of loosing your job. There is no such thing as "NO JEOPARDY". Be careful.
Warning letters are part of life in Dubai, don't take them personally, frame them! Hang them in the bathroom!
The company accommodation is as everyone has said. Dismal! Poor quality and bad location. Only benefits are maintenance is free and there are no bills.
Seeing miserable trainers walking behind your villa every day really adds to the experience.

Buy a used Toyota or Nissan and keep it forever. Buy a cheap apartment so you can get out of the dismal company villas. Payed off in 4 years. Be smart with you money. Get the cheapest phone plan and don't get a TV package unless you want 1000 channels of rubbish. Don't take any advice from pilots. They are the worst people to listen to after our cabin crew.

Cabin Crew, have you ever met such a miserable bunch of people? Asking for a coffee is like asking for the fillings from their teeth. Say hello, and they'll ignore you.

Management. Where do we even begin. Never forget how they handled the pandemic. That's how they'll handle every crisis going forward. They'll disappear and reappear 3 months later and pretend everything is under control.

Sorry lads, it's not all bad, it can be a lot of fun every six months or so when you fly with a "good" crew.
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 12:50
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Originally Posted by Fairey Seal View Post

Because it's not true. If it were the case that EK were operating like this, they would be pulled up by regulators.
Sure, so you are telling me I was imagining it when I flew more than the 900 hours in a year? Halas.

ICAO says the following:
The total flight time of the sectors on which an individual crew member is assigned as an operating crew member shall not exceed: 100 hours of flight time in any 28 consecutive days. 900 hours of flight time in any calendar year; 1,000 hours of flight time in any 12 consecutive calendar months.

Now are you an operating crew member when you are not behind the wheel? No. So strictly it is not illegal. They know their stuff and again no union to object against this "creative" solution to increase efficiency.

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Old 5th Aug 2022, 13:05
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Originally Posted by Shazeem View Post
Sure, so you are telling me I was imagining it when I flew more than the 900 hours in a year? Halas.

ICAO says the following:
The total flight time of the sectors on which an individual crew member is assigned as an operating crew member shall not exceed: 100 hours of flight time in any 28 consecutive days. 900 hours of flight time in any calendar year; 1,000 hours of flight time in any 12 consecutive calendar months.

Now are you an operating crew member when you are not behind the wheel? No. So strictly it is not illegal. They know their stuff and again no union to object against this "creative" solution to increase efficiency.

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So you didn't fly more than 900 hours. Sounds like you are looking for something to complain about. If you don't like it you can leave, right?
Try Ryanair, I'm sure you will have a better quality of life, far less hours and get paid just as well, after tax. Obviously.
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 13:41
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The factored hours really are the thing killing people. It is indeed scary.
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 13:44
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Originally Posted by Fairey Seal View Post
Where are the better jobs? Why are you spreading rumours?
Clue is in the name of the website fairy up
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 15:39
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C.bashar

Hi everyone
im a captain on hawker 800xp and havind 4100hrs grand total and on hawker having 3100hrs
I did apply to Emirates 2days ago.
Any advice
Hawker mtow id around 13 tons but I have more than 3100hrs on itThanks.
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Old 5th Aug 2022, 16:36
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[QUOTE=Fairey Seal;11273323]Furthermore, rumour has it that the requirements to join EK will drop to unfrozen ATPL. Opening the door for many new pilots to apply.]

That sounds like a sign of lowering standards to fill seats. That doesn't happen in non-crisis situations.
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