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No Thanks, i would rather keep my dignity ....
Dear All,
I will start this topic and write the story under the advice of all those people that contacted me asking for info about OmanAir. As it is, they are right, and these things are meant to be shared for the sake of everyone.
I had a long deal of experience in OmanAir and in Oman, a gorgeous country with plenty of beauty and heart, an essential chapter of my life regardless of the experience to be negative or positive, it is an integral part of what I’m am today.
It is difficult to call it a plus or a minus, as I remember many beautiful things and many tough days, but I think I know what I remember most, a harsh lesson learned in a hard way:
Never call home a place where you are considered a guest; never call brothers people that do not consider you a part of the family regardless of what they say in your face.
As an Ex-pat OmanAir first officer, you should know what the deal is before you are invited to join, and if you don’t, you should immediately leave when you understand where the tricks are. I saw many people going just at the end of the two-year bond; I didn’t leave; now I am an old jobless first officer, they are all Captains with promising careers and happy families ahead.
I know, it was my decision and mine alone; I was lazy and naive; I can’t blame anybody else. But it must be said that OmanAir had a significant contribution in my Pilot Career to be majorly compromised.
It was due to Omanization that my upgrade to the left seat was so much prolonged, years and years of tough (very tough) roster commitment and honest hard work, without even the chance for an upgrade, all while watching the endless parade of local cadets, jumping you in the queue and celebrating the 4Th. Bar.
“Omanization” the name of the law that allows them to legally leave you behind, pure discrimination by citizenship/nationality that gives locals the right to take, inside and outside a company, upgrades, benefits, higher rank positions regardless of seniority, all things that were supposed to be shared equally between employees.
They might consider this their right; in 90% of the UN countries, it is “constitutionally” considered a human right violation to discriminate employees of the same company against nationality, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
When the pandemic broke out, locals’ salaries cut was 20%, ex-pats salaries cut was 80%, Omanair started hiring Omanies coming back from other Middle East airlines and fired all ex-pats some months later.
When I now think of all the years in Oman, I sincerely always did my best to respect their culture and religion; I always felt like they really cared about it; year after year, I understood they never respected mine.
I will start this topic and write the story under the advice of all those people that contacted me asking for info about OmanAir. As it is, they are right, and these things are meant to be shared for the sake of everyone.
I had a long deal of experience in OmanAir and in Oman, a gorgeous country with plenty of beauty and heart, an essential chapter of my life regardless of the experience to be negative or positive, it is an integral part of what I’m am today.
It is difficult to call it a plus or a minus, as I remember many beautiful things and many tough days, but I think I know what I remember most, a harsh lesson learned in a hard way:
Never call home a place where you are considered a guest; never call brothers people that do not consider you a part of the family regardless of what they say in your face.
As an Ex-pat OmanAir first officer, you should know what the deal is before you are invited to join, and if you don’t, you should immediately leave when you understand where the tricks are. I saw many people going just at the end of the two-year bond; I didn’t leave; now I am an old jobless first officer, they are all Captains with promising careers and happy families ahead.
I know, it was my decision and mine alone; I was lazy and naive; I can’t blame anybody else. But it must be said that OmanAir had a significant contribution in my Pilot Career to be majorly compromised.
It was due to Omanization that my upgrade to the left seat was so much prolonged, years and years of tough (very tough) roster commitment and honest hard work, without even the chance for an upgrade, all while watching the endless parade of local cadets, jumping you in the queue and celebrating the 4Th. Bar.
“Omanization” the name of the law that allows them to legally leave you behind, pure discrimination by citizenship/nationality that gives locals the right to take, inside and outside a company, upgrades, benefits, higher rank positions regardless of seniority, all things that were supposed to be shared equally between employees.
They might consider this their right; in 90% of the UN countries, it is “constitutionally” considered a human right violation to discriminate employees of the same company against nationality, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
When the pandemic broke out, locals’ salaries cut was 20%, ex-pats salaries cut was 80%, Omanair started hiring Omanies coming back from other Middle East airlines and fired all ex-pats some months later.
When I now think of all the years in Oman, I sincerely always did my best to respect their culture and religion; I always felt like they really cared about it; year after year, I understood they never respected mine.
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Dear All,
I will start this topic and write the story under the advice of all those people that contacted me asking for info about OmanAir. As it is, they are right, and these things are meant to be shared for the sake of everyone.
I had a long deal of experience in OmanAir and in Oman, a gorgeous country with plenty of beauty and heart, an essential chapter of my life regardless of the experience to be negative or positive, it is an integral part of what I’m am today.
It is difficult to call it a plus or a minus, as I remember many beautiful things and many tough days, but I think I know what I remember most, a harsh lesson learned in a hard way:
Never call home a place where you are considered a guest; never call brothers people that do not consider you a part of the family regardless of what they say in your face.
As an Ex-pat OmanAir first officer, you should know what the deal is before you are invited to join, and if you don’t, you should immediately leave when you understand where the tricks are. I saw many people going just at the end of the two-year bond; I didn’t leave; now I am an old jobless first officer, they are all Captains with promising careers and happy families ahead.
I know, it was my decision and mine alone; I was lazy and naive; I can’t blame anybody else. But it must be said that OmanAir had a significant contribution in my Pilot Career to be majorly compromised.
It was due to Omanization that my upgrade to the left seat was so much prolonged, years and years of tough (very tough) roster commitment and honest hard work, without even the chance for an upgrade, all while watching the endless parade of local cadets, jumping you in the queue and celebrating the 4Th. Bar.
“Omanization” the name of the law that allows them to legally leave you behind, pure discrimination by citizenship/nationality that gives locals the right to take, inside and outside a company, upgrades, benefits, higher rank positions regardless of seniority, all things that were supposed to be shared equally between employees.
They might consider this their right; in 90% of the UN countries, it is “constitutionally” considered a human right violation to discriminate employees of the same company against nationality, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
When the pandemic broke out, locals’ salaries cut was 20%, ex-pats salaries cut was 80%, Omanair started hiring Omanies coming back from other Middle East airlines and fired all ex-pats some months later.
When I now think of all the years in Oman, I sincerely always did my best to respect their culture and religion; I always felt like they really cared about it; year after year, I understood they never respected mine.
I will start this topic and write the story under the advice of all those people that contacted me asking for info about OmanAir. As it is, they are right, and these things are meant to be shared for the sake of everyone.
I had a long deal of experience in OmanAir and in Oman, a gorgeous country with plenty of beauty and heart, an essential chapter of my life regardless of the experience to be negative or positive, it is an integral part of what I’m am today.
It is difficult to call it a plus or a minus, as I remember many beautiful things and many tough days, but I think I know what I remember most, a harsh lesson learned in a hard way:
Never call home a place where you are considered a guest; never call brothers people that do not consider you a part of the family regardless of what they say in your face.
As an Ex-pat OmanAir first officer, you should know what the deal is before you are invited to join, and if you don’t, you should immediately leave when you understand where the tricks are. I saw many people going just at the end of the two-year bond; I didn’t leave; now I am an old jobless first officer, they are all Captains with promising careers and happy families ahead.
I know, it was my decision and mine alone; I was lazy and naive; I can’t blame anybody else. But it must be said that OmanAir had a significant contribution in my Pilot Career to be majorly compromised.
It was due to Omanization that my upgrade to the left seat was so much prolonged, years and years of tough (very tough) roster commitment and honest hard work, without even the chance for an upgrade, all while watching the endless parade of local cadets, jumping you in the queue and celebrating the 4Th. Bar.
“Omanization” the name of the law that allows them to legally leave you behind, pure discrimination by citizenship/nationality that gives locals the right to take, inside and outside a company, upgrades, benefits, higher rank positions regardless of seniority, all things that were supposed to be shared equally between employees.
They might consider this their right; in 90% of the UN countries, it is “constitutionally” considered a human right violation to discriminate employees of the same company against nationality, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
When the pandemic broke out, locals’ salaries cut was 20%, ex-pats salaries cut was 80%, Omanair started hiring Omanies coming back from other Middle East airlines and fired all ex-pats some months later.
When I now think of all the years in Oman, I sincerely always did my best to respect their culture and religion; I always felt like they really cared about it; year after year, I understood they never respected mine.
Sad story. But with a certain inevitability. Locals in the ME outside their own family/ tribe are not to be trusted. Omani/Saudi/UAE nationality means something, especially in their own country, but not everything. Jordanians, Egyptians, Lebanese, Tunisians, etc, etc can struggle outside their own countries. As can Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and the like. Down at the bottom of the list come Western expats, no chance of job security in the ME.. None.
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Dear All,
I will start this topic and write the story under the advice of all those people that contacted me asking for info about OmanAir. As it is, they are right, and these things are meant to be shared for the sake of everyone.
I had a long deal of experience in OmanAir and in Oman, a gorgeous country with plenty of beauty and heart, an essential chapter of my life regardless of the experience to be negative or positive, it is an integral part of what I’m am today.
It is difficult to call it a plus or a minus, as I remember many beautiful things and many tough days, but I think I know what I remember most, a harsh lesson learned in a hard way:
Never call home a place where you are considered a guest; never call brothers people that do not consider you a part of the family regardless of what they say in your face.
As an Ex-pat OmanAir first officer, you should know what the deal is before you are invited to join, and if you don’t, you should immediately leave when you understand where the tricks are. I saw many people going just at the end of the two-year bond; I didn’t leave; now I am an old jobless first officer, they are all Captains with promising careers and happy families ahead.
I know, it was my decision and mine alone; I was lazy and naive; I can’t blame anybody else. But it must be said that OmanAir had a significant contribution in my Pilot Career to be majorly compromised.
It was due to Omanization that my upgrade to the left seat was so much prolonged, years and years of tough (very tough) roster commitment and honest hard work, without even the chance for an upgrade, all while watching the endless parade of local cadets, jumping you in the queue and celebrating the 4Th. Bar.
“Omanization” the name of the law that allows them to legally leave you behind, pure discrimination by citizenship/nationality that gives locals the right to take, inside and outside a company, upgrades, benefits, higher rank positions regardless of seniority, all things that were supposed to be shared equally between employees.
They might consider this their right; in 90% of the UN countries, it is “constitutionally” considered a human right violation to discriminate employees of the same company against nationality, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
When the pandemic broke out, locals’ salaries cut was 20%, ex-pats salaries cut was 80%, Omanair started hiring Omanies coming back from other Middle East airlines and fired all ex-pats some months later.
When I now think of all the years in Oman, I sincerely always did my best to respect their culture and religion; I always felt like they really cared about it; year after year, I understood they never respected mine.
I will start this topic and write the story under the advice of all those people that contacted me asking for info about OmanAir. As it is, they are right, and these things are meant to be shared for the sake of everyone.
I had a long deal of experience in OmanAir and in Oman, a gorgeous country with plenty of beauty and heart, an essential chapter of my life regardless of the experience to be negative or positive, it is an integral part of what I’m am today.
It is difficult to call it a plus or a minus, as I remember many beautiful things and many tough days, but I think I know what I remember most, a harsh lesson learned in a hard way:
Never call home a place where you are considered a guest; never call brothers people that do not consider you a part of the family regardless of what they say in your face.
As an Ex-pat OmanAir first officer, you should know what the deal is before you are invited to join, and if you don’t, you should immediately leave when you understand where the tricks are. I saw many people going just at the end of the two-year bond; I didn’t leave; now I am an old jobless first officer, they are all Captains with promising careers and happy families ahead.
I know, it was my decision and mine alone; I was lazy and naive; I can’t blame anybody else. But it must be said that OmanAir had a significant contribution in my Pilot Career to be majorly compromised.
It was due to Omanization that my upgrade to the left seat was so much prolonged, years and years of tough (very tough) roster commitment and honest hard work, without even the chance for an upgrade, all while watching the endless parade of local cadets, jumping you in the queue and celebrating the 4Th. Bar.
“Omanization” the name of the law that allows them to legally leave you behind, pure discrimination by citizenship/nationality that gives locals the right to take, inside and outside a company, upgrades, benefits, higher rank positions regardless of seniority, all things that were supposed to be shared equally between employees.
They might consider this their right; in 90% of the UN countries, it is “constitutionally” considered a human right violation to discriminate employees of the same company against nationality, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
When the pandemic broke out, locals’ salaries cut was 20%, ex-pats salaries cut was 80%, Omanair started hiring Omanies coming back from other Middle East airlines and fired all ex-pats some months later.
When I now think of all the years in Oman, I sincerely always did my best to respect their culture and religion; I always felt like they really cared about it; year after year, I understood they never respected mine.
I was a Captain but treated exactly the same way.
Luckly I had a friend in Emirates for 15 years in the middle east that before joining told me the golden rules:
1 You will be always an expat GUEST
2 The contract doesn't value the paper onto is written
3 it's not and will be never your Home
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Hi Guys, about job security
I have experienced in Oman a formidable ability of Omani employers to “Legally”, change without notice, employment contracts to better adapt their needs to present market demands.
This explains how your benefits, conditions, and restrictions were removed overnight without you even being notified and why they have a formidable and lucrative expat manpower resource.
Of the first contract I signed in the beginning and renewed every two years, barely 50% of it was the actual experience, including omanization restrictions on career progression witch they never mentioned in any contract.
You also have to notice that 70% of that contract was a non-disclosure agreement that forces employees to keep company policies strictly confidential on any level.
What I am writing now is simply a non technical, non safety related truth that shouldn’t be covered by any secrecy whatsoever and, yet, it would have been a termination sentence back then and still could give me troubles, yeap !! I am pretty sure that signature is still well stored in Muscat somewhere.
Either I was naïve to sign that stuff, or the system is designed just for that, to make you sign when you still don’t know and to shut your mouth when you will know.
Back to job security, the deal is ….. swallow-it or leave-it.
The leave-it options include, pay the eventual bond and move back the entire family to wherever you came from.
The swallow-it option is far riskier, in my opinion. It will break your self-esteem, it will have psychological consequences on you and your family and seriously compromise your career.
There is no other option and, mostly, there is no fighting option;
I saw people picking the fight and maybe even winning the first court battle, then being terminated for “safety-related issues” some months later.
I can tell you that only after I have been terminated by them and found my new non-fly job, I have rediscovered the pleasure of being part of a team that does not consider me as a unwanted but needed thing.
I can tell you that now I go to work every morning without worrying about the guy you have to fly with because he could be convinced that his command was given to him by divine right, and he has the right to leave the cockpit during flight without even asking, to go pray, and thank god for it.
I can tell you that now, my salary is half, and my car engine size is one-quarter of what it was; but every Sunday is now a Sunday with my family, my rights are the same as those around me regardless of where they come from, and I don't have sleep in cockpits for three nights in a row 5 times in a month.
My mood is better; my self-esteem is better; my health is better; my family is ok.
When I left Oman, I was scared, angry, confused, and strongly disappointed; it was a tough situation, especially for my kids.
One year later, We found ourselves in a much better place, having never seen them so happy!! I am definitely one step closer to where I really wanted to be !!
I have experienced in Oman a formidable ability of Omani employers to “Legally”, change without notice, employment contracts to better adapt their needs to present market demands.
This explains how your benefits, conditions, and restrictions were removed overnight without you even being notified and why they have a formidable and lucrative expat manpower resource.
Of the first contract I signed in the beginning and renewed every two years, barely 50% of it was the actual experience, including omanization restrictions on career progression witch they never mentioned in any contract.
You also have to notice that 70% of that contract was a non-disclosure agreement that forces employees to keep company policies strictly confidential on any level.
What I am writing now is simply a non technical, non safety related truth that shouldn’t be covered by any secrecy whatsoever and, yet, it would have been a termination sentence back then and still could give me troubles, yeap !! I am pretty sure that signature is still well stored in Muscat somewhere.
Either I was naïve to sign that stuff, or the system is designed just for that, to make you sign when you still don’t know and to shut your mouth when you will know.
Back to job security, the deal is ….. swallow-it or leave-it.
The leave-it options include, pay the eventual bond and move back the entire family to wherever you came from.
The swallow-it option is far riskier, in my opinion. It will break your self-esteem, it will have psychological consequences on you and your family and seriously compromise your career.
There is no other option and, mostly, there is no fighting option;
I saw people picking the fight and maybe even winning the first court battle, then being terminated for “safety-related issues” some months later.
I can tell you that only after I have been terminated by them and found my new non-fly job, I have rediscovered the pleasure of being part of a team that does not consider me as a unwanted but needed thing.
I can tell you that now I go to work every morning without worrying about the guy you have to fly with because he could be convinced that his command was given to him by divine right, and he has the right to leave the cockpit during flight without even asking, to go pray, and thank god for it.
I can tell you that now, my salary is half, and my car engine size is one-quarter of what it was; but every Sunday is now a Sunday with my family, my rights are the same as those around me regardless of where they come from, and I don't have sleep in cockpits for three nights in a row 5 times in a month.
My mood is better; my self-esteem is better; my health is better; my family is ok.
When I left Oman, I was scared, angry, confused, and strongly disappointed; it was a tough situation, especially for my kids.
One year later, We found ourselves in a much better place, having never seen them so happy!! I am definitely one step closer to where I really wanted to be !!
I would like to make a point which you can take or leave. As much as it is trendy and commonplace to mock and deride the U.K. there is at some level the notion of fairness lurking under the radar. Not always I concede because life is not fair. I have had a couple of gos in the lovely ME albeit as DEC so the upgrade issue was not a factor. However, I hear a lot of noise about the need for localisation in the various well known ME airlines and we all nod our heads in the approved pc manner that of course local pilots of whatever airline should be streamlined into the left hand seat. If you joined British Airways your turn would come up as a function of seniority and competence. No one says let the Brits have the captain jobs first. Fair play? Just saying.
If you can obtain rights to work in the UK or if BA were desperate enough for pilots that they would sponsor foreigners, yes you would have an equal and fair process to join BA. And once in your command upgrade prospects would be exactly the same as everyone else in the company... According to seniority list position etc etc...
But you are trying to compare apples and oranges I think in this case.
But you are trying to compare apples and oranges I think in this case.
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The answer is NO, you are not able to apply. The rest including how wonderfully you would be treated is a hypothetical. A quick glance at the news can give you a fair idea of the welcome many migrants get in the English Channel. I am not the one comparing BTW, the previous poster was.
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But would a ME citizen be able to get a job permit and join BA?
Of course, it could!!!
If an Indian Native has been appointed as a London Mayor !! (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it) why an Egyptian FO could not apply for BA !!!???
Even in the recent recruitment campaign, BA didn’t put any restriction on citizenship, gender, or color of any sort and I don’t think they legally can !!
BA is already made of an incredible variety of different nationalities on both ground and flight crew environments, and as Olster said, no Brits have any sort of advantage over any other nationality inside the same company.
The fact that some airlines in EU require a right to leave and work in EU before you apply is because they attempt to shorten the time length between candidate application and assessment date as the Shengen clearance application might require some time. so it is just easier to restrict applicants to only EU residents as long as there are plenty of them.
As a matter of fact, during the pandemic HR Cuts, all BA pilots took a 6% pay cut allowing their colleagues to go on early retirement without having to sustain the entire salary benefits losses by themselves. I personally know one of those retirees and he is a Swedish citizen. An example that omanair should definitely follow since they put the entire weight of the pandemic cuts on Expats only.
I don’t see any British students having any priority on any of the numerous omani students in England,
I don’t see any British Uber driver having any advantage over any Lebanese or Afghani uber driver !! They all have the same salary, pay the same taxes, will have the same previdential benefits, and most probably in time, the 2 ex-pats will end up with a British passport !!
Doing some research you might actually notice that some Political currents are suggesting that England should apply to foreigners the same laws that those countries apply to British ex-pats in their territories, ergo, the omanization applied to Brits in oman should be applied to omani foreigners in England as well.
I personally don’t agree with the latter as it wouldn’t bring any benefit to any country in the long run and after all …. we are not Barbarians.
Sure we need to make aware any worker of the actual facts before they sign any contract in those countries that still empowers this kind of practice, I wish I was aware of it before ending up working for omanair.
Of course, it could!!!
If an Indian Native has been appointed as a London Mayor !! (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it) why an Egyptian FO could not apply for BA !!!???
Even in the recent recruitment campaign, BA didn’t put any restriction on citizenship, gender, or color of any sort and I don’t think they legally can !!
BA is already made of an incredible variety of different nationalities on both ground and flight crew environments, and as Olster said, no Brits have any sort of advantage over any other nationality inside the same company.
The fact that some airlines in EU require a right to leave and work in EU before you apply is because they attempt to shorten the time length between candidate application and assessment date as the Shengen clearance application might require some time. so it is just easier to restrict applicants to only EU residents as long as there are plenty of them.
As a matter of fact, during the pandemic HR Cuts, all BA pilots took a 6% pay cut allowing their colleagues to go on early retirement without having to sustain the entire salary benefits losses by themselves. I personally know one of those retirees and he is a Swedish citizen. An example that omanair should definitely follow since they put the entire weight of the pandemic cuts on Expats only.
I don’t see any British students having any priority on any of the numerous omani students in England,
I don’t see any British Uber driver having any advantage over any Lebanese or Afghani uber driver !! They all have the same salary, pay the same taxes, will have the same previdential benefits, and most probably in time, the 2 ex-pats will end up with a British passport !!
Doing some research you might actually notice that some Political currents are suggesting that England should apply to foreigners the same laws that those countries apply to British ex-pats in their territories, ergo, the omanization applied to Brits in oman should be applied to omani foreigners in England as well.
I personally don’t agree with the latter as it wouldn’t bring any benefit to any country in the long run and after all …. we are not Barbarians.
Sure we need to make aware any worker of the actual facts before they sign any contract in those countries that still empowers this kind of practice, I wish I was aware of it before ending up working for omanair.
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Mark.P. I’m not sure where to begin with that post….
Firstly Sadiq Khan is from a Pakistani family, not Indian, and secondly he was born in Tooting, London, so is actually a native of the U.K.
Finally, go have a look at the BA careers website, because whilst they cannot legally discriminate against race, colour, sex etc etc, they can most certainly have ‘Must have the unrestricted right to live and work in the U.K.’ as one of there requirements to apply.
Its there in black and white.
Firstly Sadiq Khan is from a Pakistani family, not Indian, and secondly he was born in Tooting, London, so is actually a native of the U.K.
Finally, go have a look at the BA careers website, because whilst they cannot legally discriminate against race, colour, sex etc etc, they can most certainly have ‘Must have the unrestricted right to live and work in the U.K.’ as one of there requirements to apply.
Its there in black and white.
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well well, it all seems a little tit for tat on this poste.
If im permitted, please let me share my thoughts on the previous post.
First of all Sadiq Khan might be a british national but at the time of his birth in Tooting, both his parents were Pakistani nationals. So one must ask if all the expat pilots whos children were born in Oman have any claim to nationality...then who knows maybe one day be in the Omani govt 😁. anyway i digress..
lets try and compare apples for apples.
Sadiqs father, despite being a Pakistani national was employed as a bus driver in london. The law would have afforded him the same right and job security as his british colleagues. regardless of who was british and who was not. the same goes for BA. you see you might need the right to live and work in the uk to apply, as you do in Oman for that matter. But once you are employed you have the same rights as a British national ie a Frenchman in BA would not be the first to go in a downturn the decision would be based on seniority and not nationality 🤷♂️
I cant say i agree or disagree or even care, I just wanted to point out the facts.
If im permitted, please let me share my thoughts on the previous post.
First of all Sadiq Khan might be a british national but at the time of his birth in Tooting, both his parents were Pakistani nationals. So one must ask if all the expat pilots whos children were born in Oman have any claim to nationality...then who knows maybe one day be in the Omani govt 😁. anyway i digress..
lets try and compare apples for apples.
Sadiqs father, despite being a Pakistani national was employed as a bus driver in london. The law would have afforded him the same right and job security as his british colleagues. regardless of who was british and who was not. the same goes for BA. you see you might need the right to live and work in the uk to apply, as you do in Oman for that matter. But once you are employed you have the same rights as a British national ie a Frenchman in BA would not be the first to go in a downturn the decision would be based on seniority and not nationality 🤷♂️
I cant say i agree or disagree or even care, I just wanted to point out the facts.
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Children born in Oman from expat parents, have NO right to Omani citizenship.
I do love the talk about company policy earlier. All workers in Oman Air are bound by this policy, but the rules are not available to anyone outside HR. So you do not have any idea what the rules are. Works well. For the company.
It’s a weird place. Go to work, go home, get a phone call from somebody in the company why simply ask you if anything happened on your flight. No, why? Nothing, goodbye.
Beautiful country, great people. Those who are outside Oman Air.
I do love the talk about company policy earlier. All workers in Oman Air are bound by this policy, but the rules are not available to anyone outside HR. So you do not have any idea what the rules are. Works well. For the company.
It’s a weird place. Go to work, go home, get a phone call from somebody in the company why simply ask you if anything happened on your flight. No, why? Nothing, goodbye.
Beautiful country, great people. Those who are outside Oman Air.
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Not true at all ..Heard of the Khimjis ? Just one example that disproves your jibber-jabber...
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it seems the passing remark i made about citizenship has taken the thread off topic and for that i do apologise.
The main issue that was being addressed was the different strokes for different folks and i guess even that is not solely an Oman problem unfortunately.
On the other hand a know of very few pilots or anyone for that matter, myself included who would renounce their citizenship to aquire an Omani one. despite that being the only way to achive employment equality. And this depite the friendliness of the people and quality of life that comes with secure stable employment.
safe flying to you all..
The main issue that was being addressed was the different strokes for different folks and i guess even that is not solely an Oman problem unfortunately.
On the other hand a know of very few pilots or anyone for that matter, myself included who would renounce their citizenship to aquire an Omani one. despite that being the only way to achive employment equality. And this depite the friendliness of the people and quality of life that comes with secure stable employment.
safe flying to you all..
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Dear Maz11 and BOMBEUS,
Let me first apologize to you if you feel in any way touched by the topics we are exposing to the public here, I can assure you that non of this is personal, the main objective remains to inform and share the truth that will help the next ExPat worker to make better choices for himself and his family.
I would love to discuss and learn more about the heritage of the Khan family, unfortunately, I don’t think this is the right place and we certainly are going off-topic so I will try to rephrase to better explain my point.
Let’s assume that Sadiq Khan parents had chosen to migrate in oman instead of England.
what would Sadiq Khan be today?
Where would Sadiq Khan be today ?
Pakistan or India doesn’t really make a lot of difference does it?
Sure he would be back from wherever he came from since would have been too old and worn out to be used as manpower anymore.
I hope you guys see the point now.
And yes again, BA is looking for UK residents, which includes English, omanies, Pakistanis French Italians Americans yellow green black red Muslim Christians, and Martians.
That includes the Egyptian, omanair terminated pilot, working now in England as a migrant uber driver that has the right to apply for BA just like any other British man around, and if successful will have the same rights and working conditions as any other British man around.
Seniority goes up , rank goes up, pandemic breaks, and salary goes down for everyone regardless of color religion passport sexual appetite, or country of birth.
I have been terminated by omanair because of my nationality, not because my resident card was expired or because of my seniority position.
My career progression was denied because of my citizenship, not because my right to work and live in oman was expiring, or because I wasn’t skilled enough.
Do you see a difference? Because if you don’t it really is Jibber-Jabber guys,never liked J.J. BTW.
Once cleared the discrimination by citizenship topic I think we should also start to address some publicly hidden company practices such a Tactical sick Punishments, fatigue issues, and all thosedangerous company Policies that affect safety directly, the interest is not only fo future employees but also for millions of unaware passengers that have the right to know.
Let me first apologize to you if you feel in any way touched by the topics we are exposing to the public here, I can assure you that non of this is personal, the main objective remains to inform and share the truth that will help the next ExPat worker to make better choices for himself and his family.
I would love to discuss and learn more about the heritage of the Khan family, unfortunately, I don’t think this is the right place and we certainly are going off-topic so I will try to rephrase to better explain my point.
Let’s assume that Sadiq Khan parents had chosen to migrate in oman instead of England.
what would Sadiq Khan be today?
Where would Sadiq Khan be today ?
Pakistan or India doesn’t really make a lot of difference does it?
Sure he would be back from wherever he came from since would have been too old and worn out to be used as manpower anymore.
I hope you guys see the point now.
And yes again, BA is looking for UK residents, which includes English, omanies, Pakistanis French Italians Americans yellow green black red Muslim Christians, and Martians.
That includes the Egyptian, omanair terminated pilot, working now in England as a migrant uber driver that has the right to apply for BA just like any other British man around, and if successful will have the same rights and working conditions as any other British man around.
Seniority goes up , rank goes up, pandemic breaks, and salary goes down for everyone regardless of color religion passport sexual appetite, or country of birth.
I have been terminated by omanair because of my nationality, not because my resident card was expired or because of my seniority position.
My career progression was denied because of my citizenship, not because my right to work and live in oman was expiring, or because I wasn’t skilled enough.
Do you see a difference? Because if you don’t it really is Jibber-Jabber guys,never liked J.J. BTW.
Once cleared the discrimination by citizenship topic I think we should also start to address some publicly hidden company practices such a Tactical sick Punishments, fatigue issues, and all thosedangerous company Policies that affect safety directly, the interest is not only fo future employees but also for millions of unaware passengers that have the right to know.
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Dear Maz11 and BOMBEUS,
Let me first apologize to you if you feel in any way touched by the topics we are exposing to the public here, I can assure you that non of this is personal, the main objective remains to inform and share the truth that will help the next ExPat worker to make better choices for himself and his family.
I would love to discuss and learn more about the heritage of the Khan family, unfortunately, I don’t think this is the right place and we certainly are going off-topic so I will try to rephrase to better explain my point.
Let’s assume that Sadiq Khan parents had chosen to migrate in oman instead of England.
what would Sadiq Khan be today?
Where would Sadiq Khan be today ?
Pakistan or India doesn’t really make a lot of difference does it?
Sure he would be back from wherever he came from since would have been too old and worn out to be used as manpower anymore.
I hope you guys see the point now.
And yes again, BA is looking for UK residents, which includes English, omanies, Pakistanis French Italians Americans yellow green black red Muslim Christians, and Martians.
That includes the Egyptian, omanair terminated pilot, working now in England as a migrant uber driver that has the right to apply for BA just like any other British man around, and if successful will have the same rights and working conditions as any other British man around.
Seniority goes up , rank goes up, pandemic breaks, and salary goes down for everyone regardless of color religion passport sexual appetite, or country of birth.
I have been terminated by omanair because of my nationality, not because my resident card was expired or because of my seniority position.
My career progression was denied because of my citizenship, not because my right to work and live in oman was expiring, or because I wasn’t skilled enough.
Do you see a difference? Because if you don’t it really is Jibber-Jabber guys,never liked J.J. BTW.
Once cleared the discrimination by citizenship topic I think we should also start to address some publicly hidden company practices such a Tactical sick Punishments, fatigue issues, and all thosedangerous company Policies that affect safety directly, the interest is not only fo future employees but also for millions of unaware passengers that have the right to know.
Let me first apologize to you if you feel in any way touched by the topics we are exposing to the public here, I can assure you that non of this is personal, the main objective remains to inform and share the truth that will help the next ExPat worker to make better choices for himself and his family.
I would love to discuss and learn more about the heritage of the Khan family, unfortunately, I don’t think this is the right place and we certainly are going off-topic so I will try to rephrase to better explain my point.
Let’s assume that Sadiq Khan parents had chosen to migrate in oman instead of England.
what would Sadiq Khan be today?
Where would Sadiq Khan be today ?
Pakistan or India doesn’t really make a lot of difference does it?
Sure he would be back from wherever he came from since would have been too old and worn out to be used as manpower anymore.
I hope you guys see the point now.
And yes again, BA is looking for UK residents, which includes English, omanies, Pakistanis French Italians Americans yellow green black red Muslim Christians, and Martians.
That includes the Egyptian, omanair terminated pilot, working now in England as a migrant uber driver that has the right to apply for BA just like any other British man around, and if successful will have the same rights and working conditions as any other British man around.
Seniority goes up , rank goes up, pandemic breaks, and salary goes down for everyone regardless of color religion passport sexual appetite, or country of birth.
I have been terminated by omanair because of my nationality, not because my resident card was expired or because of my seniority position.
My career progression was denied because of my citizenship, not because my right to work and live in oman was expiring, or because I wasn’t skilled enough.
Do you see a difference? Because if you don’t it really is Jibber-Jabber guys,never liked J.J. BTW.
Once cleared the discrimination by citizenship topic I think we should also start to address some publicly hidden company practices such a Tactical sick Punishments, fatigue issues, and all thosedangerous company Policies that affect safety directly, the interest is not only fo future employees but also for millions of unaware passengers that have the right to know.
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But I still think it is you who got it right and it is exactly as simple as that.
The rules explained so well about equal opportunity arrangements in the UK just don't apply in most other places. At all.
Let alone when state owned companies are involved, the citizens have the right of way. Can't really blame government decision makers for protecting their own.
On top of which any bureaucrat worldwide will foremostly focus on avoiding responsibility and the very next step is to support his own seat by serving his peers and bloodline first.
Applying discriminate filters for aliens (nationality but many times ethnicity too) is part of culture in a broader sense, and those do differ. Not calling good or bad here, it is apples, oranges, pomegranates, dragonfruits....
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