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gtaflyer 22nd Jul 2020 19:31

Oman redundancies
 
So the reduction at Salam air begins...

Seamin Stains 23rd Jul 2020 02:18

IT was just a matter of time.!.....Oman Air is slowly imploding....and those who have resisted are left with Scrap!

EchoKilla 23rd Jul 2020 07:01

so it's Oman Air & Salam Air?

pfvspnf 23rd Jul 2020 16:49

How many people being let go ?

gtaflyer 23rd Jul 2020 18:38

How many people being let go ?
 
I believe about 20 so far in Salam airline

BOEMBUS 23rd Jul 2020 18:40

Pilots laid off
 
Currently 200+ pilots have been made redundant or given early retirement.

Cabin crew in the hundreds too.

pfvspnf 24th Jul 2020 04:45

is this Oman air or Salam air ?


BOEMBUS 24th Jul 2020 06:09

Oman air I believe.

Marcus555 24th Jul 2020 13:52

salam just reduced 10 Capt 10 Fo
not sure about Oman air

Marcus555 24th Jul 2020 18:21

Salam Air 20 total to start
hunting season begins

Topaze737 25th Jul 2020 06:30

Oman Air has terrminated around 200 pilots and hundreds of cabin crew.

All terminated pilots are expats, locals are safe.
All expats in the company are on a 80% salary cut while locals have a reduction from 0 to 20% depending on their basic salary.

Airport is still close here and many pilots wait for the opening to leave the country, having to live here with family on 20% pay is not easy.
Oman Air didn't pay contractual school fees neither, maybe they will, maybe they won't, nobody knows as communication is reduced to almost zero.

Marcus555 26th Jul 2020 00:26

Brace for impact gentlemen

pfvspnf 26th Jul 2020 13:05

Did Oman Air and Salam air follow a seniority list when getting rid of people ?

Are tourists visas being given out ?

BOEMBUS 26th Jul 2020 18:28

Newbie fibs
 
Topass737: If you are going to make a statement with figures, percentages and grievances, at least have the courtesy of not fabricating and making it sound ever so bad for expats.

First off, it's up to 30% salary deductions for locals and there were old skippers given early retirement too.

That 80% cut has been helped out by loan repayment deferrals, which I belive Oman air worked it out with local banks, granted there were some teething hiccups, but nonetheless was achieved.

The way it was carried out was far more humane and predictable in the sense all over 60s and all that were in the company less than 2 years.

The second wave went yet again to juniority and pilots with high sickness, warning letters and issues with their flying.

No one is safe as you eloquently put it. The whole world is suffering economically, healthily, mentally etc etc

Being shown the door first, is a natural process of elimination when it comes to non-local staff.

Remember all the extra perks that were given all these decades to non locals.

Balanced? Maybe, maybe not..

Either way, we're all in this crazy ride together.
Support one another, rather than start turning nasty, rude, conceited, hateful and talking crap of one's
previous employer wherever that may be.

Zymian 27th Jul 2020 16:21

Well said.

As pilots and commanders we are professionals and should behave as such.

its sad that the COVID pandemic has hit the industry and the ensuing fallout.

Spreading malicious rumours and bad mouthing isn’t going to help anyone

Xiamen 31st Jul 2020 22:44


Originally Posted by BOEMBUS (Post 10846911)
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1. The second wave went yet again to juniority and pilots with high sickness, warning letters and issues with their flying.

2. Remember all the extra perks that were given all these decades to non locals.

1. So there are hardly any locals left in the company?
2. What extra perks are you takling about? Housing allowance? Medical cover? The one that excludes any of the good hospitals?

BOEMBUS 1st Aug 2020 05:21

Hahahaha. You are funny..
How good is the medical coverage back at your previous carrier?

Answer to your petty questions:

1. Poor attempt at sarcasm. Local pilots for the first time ever, outnumber the expats.

You'll probably say, it was for a perfectly good reason.

Yes & no. I'll move on.

2. Schooling allowance, comes to approx $3000/month extra for non locals.
Travelling perks, confirmed business travel even if they've just stepped into the door(higher priority than a local skipper with 40yrs experience) , level 3 english(just), no idea of SOPs, but hey, they're from the west,they must be ace pilots.

-A one off $9000 on arrival to buy personal furniture. That perk has gone now. Boohoo
These are just skimming the surface on differences of perks etc etc

Have a blessed day.

Xiamen 1st Aug 2020 10:04

My cover was/is excellent. In Oman the expats have to do with second rate clinics, while the locals have access to the best hospitals. This is not wrong for the locals, but it is for the expats.
School allowance does not cover the cost, so money out of the expats pockets. Local have access to local schools. Expats do not.
Setting up life in Oman is not cheap. The entry fees to the schools are huge. The one time allowance covers most of the furniture cost. Not money in the pocket.
Housing allowance does not cover the cost, unless you opt for a substandard apartment/house way out of the central areas. Money out of pocket.

Oman Air is your airline, and if you can run it with local pilots, that is the way it should be. I have no problems with that.
When you talk about getting rid of pilots with high sick leave records, we both know who is on top of that pyramid. When it comes to pilots (and cabin crew) not showing up for the night flights to India, the same applies.
Lets no talk about sub standard performance in the cockpit.

As for expats with poor english skills and poor performance, that is something you should talk to your recruiters about.

Topaze737 4th Aug 2020 19:22


Topass737: If you are going to make a statement with figures, percentages and grievances, at least have the courtesy of not fabricating and making it sound ever so bad for expats.
First off, it's up to 30% salary deductions for locals and there were old skippers given early retirement too.
Sorry my bad, don't you think 80% reduction compared to the 30% you mention for locals is not bad? only very high salaries have a 30% reduction while ALL expats have an 80% reduction, and this is a fact.


That 80% cut has been helped out by loan repayment deferrals, which I belive Oman air worked it out with local banks, granted there were some teething hiccups, but nonetheless was achieved.
Loan deferrals made by the government, not by Oman Air. BUT deferrals only. What about day to day expenses ?


The way it was carried out was far more humane and predictable in the sense all over 60s and all that were in the company less than 2 years.
Over 60 got a full pension retirement, is that bad?


The second wave went yet again to juniority and pilots with high sickness, warning letters and issues with their flying.
Really, juniority amongst expats only. What about locals with warning letters and bad flying as you say?


Being shown the door first, is a natural process of elimination when it comes to non-local staff.
For once we agree, but no reason to discriminate salaries, benefits.


Remember all the extra perks that were given all these decades to non locals
These perks as you said are contractual, they were agreed by both parties.
You forgot to mention the perks given to locals! (free public school, government dismissal protection, pension fund, fast career progression through an unique home made seniority..

Today Oman Air decided unilaterally to stop “temporary” the payment of the school fees to expats pilots. In a civilized country, a contract has a legal value, it represents an agreement and both parties must adhere to the terms,
it doesn’t seem to be the case in Oman unfortunately or maybe only at Oman Air?
Does Oman Air expects Expats pilots to abide by the rules when they will escape the country in a few weeks?

For sure now the management has managed to split the pilot corp

Windshieldwiper 5th Aug 2020 05:28

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