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Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬

Old 17th Jun 2020, 18:07
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Originally Posted by Papa_Golf View Post
They will never see my phone. Period.
Same for me” I’m using a cheap Chinese phone that if I need to HR Employee Service center at Tower 2 will take that with me”
Harassment is at its core these days
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 18:09
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Originally Posted by ChocksOn View Post
At one end they are firing people, but are opening new engineering bases in high cost stations like Sydney!
Who in their right mind would do that.
No money to pay for planes and staff at home base but "my mate has to get a job because he is migrating to Australia".
What a disgrace.
I saw the vacancies for 2 bases, But then someone in technical said Its JFK too, But whatever it is, makes no sense tbh.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 18:10
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Originally Posted by Papa_Golf View Post
They don’t. But I guess it’s easy to push cc to hand over their smartphones. We don’t have strong willed types in our ranks. Also met a few pilots with an evident lack of spine.
I can name a dozen who are willing to work for 30% pay as well” Deck Crew that is” Spineless dudes.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 18:22
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Flew with a guy who told me he would work for free. Speechless.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 20:17
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im Speechless” they don’t know their worth.

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Old 18th Jun 2020, 07:09
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I would not be so quick to judge others really.
Some may not have another shot at working any other place for unfortunate reasons and have a family to feed.
I have flown with some wonderful and extremely competent colleagues that would never be able to find another job somewhere else simply because they carry a passport to a country that is destroyed today. In some cases they have never even lived in these countries, but have been victims of being born with these nationalities.

While I am fortunate and extremely grateful that I am not in that position, I think it says alot about you if you judge others or find them to be "worthless", or "spineless" while you haven't the slightest clue what they are going through.
Instead I choose to feel blessed to be in a better position. For you gents that share that sentiment and feel that sense of superiority, I sincerely hope that life doesn't teach you the hard way that you could also be on the other end of the spectrum.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 14:13
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AAB said in a recent interview that the 25% cut in pay for pilots would be temporary and yet pilots I know there said the letter was a permanent reduction across basic pay, flight pay and allowances!?
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 16:10
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Internal Memo dated 4th June 2020 says “Salary Increments will be frozen for a period of 5 years and this will apply to both Qatar Airways and Qatar Executive”

There is no mention of 25% pay cut is temporary! It is permanent” atleast min for 3-5yrs.

AAB likes to play with words” He was giving “warning” to Boeing & Airbus as well & we all know how easily QR backs off from its statements.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 16:17
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Originally Posted by tonker View Post
Thats what i have heard. Whats the point of leaving a EU based job, to go there and earn the same money. Short term nobody can disagree savings have to be made, but if its permanent why?

How many days is it till the world cup?
From today 886 days left till kick off.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 16:53
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Originally Posted by tonker View Post
Thats what i have heard. Whats the point of leaving a EU based job, to go there and earn the same money. Short term nobody can disagree savings have to be made, but if its permanent why?
Supply and demand. Alot more supply these days.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 22:13
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Originally Posted by tonker View Post
Thats what i have heard. Whats the point of leaving a EU based job, to go there and earn the same money. Short term nobody can disagree savings have to be made, but if its permanent why?

How many days is it till the world cup?
This is the part I don't understand, EVERYONE is only there for the money, why would anyone leave Europe to live in the middle east for the same money in the future? Especially as both Qatar and EK have both shown seniority means nothing. They may have no need for crews for the next 3 years with the current oversupply, but who in their right mind would go there once they have better options? Clearly not worth the risk anymore.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 22:29
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It will come down to supply and demand . 3 , 5,10 years? Who knows . There are still 100'sif not 1000's now willing to come for current T & C s . ME managers are drooling ( those that survive ) but for those familiar with the management style of the ME in general you know what I mean . 10 years to get back to pre covid 19 T &Cs is my guess .
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 15:01
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First hand info- 777 FOs, joined last year got a call to visit tower 2. TOPS, email etc all revoked.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 15:04
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I can confirm that too” 2 Captains were called in as well... Tower 2 is going to be a Mess.

This is just sooo sad 😞-

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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 17:00
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Originally Posted by tonker View Post
777 FOs recently joined, all Apps removed, chat about operations!
Apps removed from the phone?
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 17:14
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What difference does it make to Delete Apps? Once TOPS & GEMS is blocked your staff number is inactive” makes zero sense but would not be surprising from Lads sitting in Tower 1,2,3))
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 18:04
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Make that 3!
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 18:29
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What is the number in total? I just don’t want to guess.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 18:39
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Good for you! Ask them! I am just one of the numbers.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 18:58
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Im soo sorry.
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