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EK to Decommission 40% of Airbus A380, Axe 1/3 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 8th Jun 2020, 15:54
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 16:35
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There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to the guys who have had the letters. Many senior guys who have apparently good records.
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 16:41
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Originally Posted by felixthecat View Post
There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to the guys who have had the letters. Many senior guys who have apparently good records.
no it really seems like they’ve just chosen mostly at random although anybody with warning letters or attendance issues (justified or not) seems to all have been selected
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 17:29
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Originally Posted by DuneMentat View Post
no it really seems like they’ve just chosen mostly at random although anybody with warning letters or attendance issues (justified or not) seems to all have been selected
Just like the way it was done at the pink and purple brigade. No wonder as the flight ops management was imported from EK.
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 21:54
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Firstly thoughts to the people getting the letters, absolutely horrible.

But you say lots of senior guys, are they also older? Although completely not fair, it would make sense from a business point of view to get rid of people close to retirement. Rather than someone with many years of service left.

To be clear not endorsing anything, just trying to see if there is any logic, rather than completely random
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 23:34
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It is unlikely that the people cutting your pay checks have failed to notice that they can have two new captains for the price of one who is at the top of the scale. To avoid any nasty last in/first out squabbles all they have to do is the rescind the work-to-65 policy or even reduce the madatory retirement age to 58 or so.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 00:02
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Guys in early 50s with letters
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 00:03
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Originally Posted by felixthecat View Post
Guys in early 50s with letters
These aren’t Deck crew near to retiring age then.. Is it First in Last out?
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 00:05
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First in last out doesn’t appear to be in this case
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 00:06
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Originally Posted by felixthecat View Post
First in last out doesn’t appear to be in this case
Thought so. This is just Sad.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 00:42
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So about 270 probation flight crew and another 600 today giving almost 900 - what proportion of the total FC workforce is that?. Were the original rumors of 30% redundancies correct?
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 00:46
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So about 270 probation flight crew and another 600 today giving almost 900 - what proportion of the total FC workforce is that?. Were the original rumors of 30% redundancies correct?
I’m literally Scratching my head.. 900 is a big number. All or most are from A380?
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 05:30
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These aren’t Deck crew near to retiring age then.. Is it First in Last out?
Folks with two-digit seniority numbers have meetings scheduled from what I'm told.

Don't forget the mask and the dress code as the email says.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 07:43
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Originally Posted by Airbubba View Post
Folks with two-digit seniority numbers have meetings scheduled from what I'm told.

Don't forget the mask and the dress code as the email says.
wait for new normal on your pay check if u survive it
apparently it’s everybody with more than min pay
so far „we take care of our employees after 31 years of consecutive profits, the well being is important“
and there will be 32nd year with a lot of dead bodies in the basement
what’s clear is that new hires will not a 25k base and not anything like we know as benefits

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Old 9th Jun 2020, 11:12
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https://smashnewz.com/emirates-layin...ts-and-pilots/

A few weeks ago I wrote rumors that Emirates Airline would start laying off employees and I was considering grounding much of the A380’s fleet permanently. Although we do not yet know about the future of the A380 fleet, Emirates is today informing a significant number of flight attendants and pilots who are about to end.

EMIRATES BEGINS MASS LAYOFFS

A couple of weeks ago Emirates fired newly hired flight attendants and pilots who had recently completed training or were still trained. Today the airline took job cuts to the next level, including the layoff of many employees who had been with the company for a long time.

Based on my sources, e-mails were sent to many flight attendants and pilots late at night, informing them that they had to attend mandatory meetings today at Emirates training college.

It appears that the airline has essentially engaged in group layoffs. When people arrived at training college, their names were removed from a list and assigned a room. Once the room was filled, there was a quick meeting informing everyone that they were going to be closed:
  • There was no mention of the possibility of being summarized in the future
  • The managers responsible for the fires said they had no detailed insights into the reason and that they were the messengers only
  • I understand that the layoffs were largely aimed at those who had previously received warnings, those who suffered from serious illnesses and those who had previously failed training
At the conclusion of these meetings, employees received letters describing what the closure process will look like:
  • There is a 90 day notice period
  • There is no right of appeal against the dismissal decision
  • Since the company issues work visas to the UAE, there is a 29-day “grace period” beyond the 90-day notice period and, at that point, people must leave the country
  • For situations where employees cannot leave the country due to the closure of borders, these visas can be extended
  • Those who are to remain in the country will continue to receive housing and receive 25% of their basic salary
  • At the time of separation with the company, employees will receive any pending renumbering, the value of unused annual leave and an end-of-service benefit
Emirates advances with further layoffs of the cabin and pilot crew

OTHER EMIRATES EMPLOYEES GET 50% WAGES REDUCTIONS

This week’s news for Emirates employees goes beyond closed news. Many company employees who are still in employment receive a 50% reduction in their base salary between July 1 and September 30, 2020.

Over the past two months, the company has reduced wages for many frontline employees by 25%, but now that amount is increasing.

For flight attendants, the reduction in real wages is greater than 50%:
  • The basic salary is reduced by 50%, but flight attendants are also normally paid for flight hours
  • With most flight attendants flying very little (if at all), they also lose their flight wages
  • This means that for many flight attendants the pay cut is 60% longer
Emirates is also cutting wages for many employees by 50%

BOTTOM LINE

My thoughts are with all those of Emirates today who are losing their jobs. It is especially difficult when you get fired after moving somewhere for a job, with no chance of staying. Many people have built lives in Dubai, now they are forced to leave them behind.

In the end we don’t know how many people Emirates fired and we may not know for a while. Also, the odds are that we will see more layoffs in the coming weeks, as it would appear that they are making layoffs in stages.

First they fired those still in training, then they fired those who had performance problems and who knows which group would be next …
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 11:40
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what a great company....
halas
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 12:06
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A "great company" indeed... The only thing great about this company is the staff who have endured many years contributing to the company's repeated success and then are treated like used rags and kicked out the doors without any showing of grace or gratitude. Girls and Guys invested their lives at this ungrateful company and certainly should be shown more respect from these megalomaniacs. Years of loyal service chopped for petty warnings (in most cases) and genuine sicknesses (many from over-working)! God help these maniacs and hope we never forget next time they need to recruit...
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 13:20
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Originally Posted by SaulGoodman View Post
what a great company....
halas
600 is the number I’m hearing when it comes to Deck Crew”
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 13:32
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I really don't think EK could have handled today any worse. Very disrespectful to the fellas and girls that were led into the slaughterhouse.
Ladies and gents I am lost for words for what happened today and how you were treated.

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Old 9th Jun 2020, 13:36
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I really don't think EK could have handled today any worse. Very disrespectful to the fellas and girls that were led into the slaughterhouse.
Ladies and gents I am lost for words for what happened today and how you were treated.
Im sooo sorry to hear! Prayers and wishes for all the colleagues at EK and for their families.

Though I wouldn’t except good from Any ME3 airline” their mindset is just of slave mentality.
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